Going to Moscow for Spring Break

Had you read the stories of Jimmy Winkfield, Paul Robeson's son,and other brothers who dated and married Russian women Drow? Back in the day from the Czars to the Soviets a brother could date a Russian woman and encounter little to no drama.
 
Soulthinker said:
Had you read the stories of Jimmy Winkfield, Paul Robeson's son,and other brothers who dated and married Russian women Drow? Back in the day from the Czars to the Soviets a brother could date a Russian woman and encounter little to no drama.
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I haven't heard of that - interesting!

Too bad the skinhead nationalist seem to be gaining stream nowadays. Or are at least operating unchecked. I have nothing against a people wanting to preserve their traditions and culture and can understand that these things make up their very identity. I get that. What I don't condone is the brutal violence done by these groups in the name of that goal. They are essentially trying to "scare" everyone who is non-white Russian out of the country.

I know most Russian people don't share these views. Particularly the women I would imagine. Many of them want to get out of Russia not because they don't love their country but because many of the men from what I HEAR are often alcoholic, abusive and basically have no respect for women or loyalty to a relationship. As the woman outnumber the men, it is thought that they don't really put much effort into the relationship because if she starts becoming a problem. he will just go out and get someone else. That is why the Russian woman/bride websites are so prevalent. Moreso than any other ethnic background it seems. Perhaps the few Russian women on this site can verify? I'm just relaying what I hear.

I say let them chase their women away! I'll take em' :twisted:
 
drow said:
Soulthinker said:
Had you read the stories of Jimmy Winkfield, Paul Robeson's son,and other brothers who dated and married Russian women Drow? Back in the day from the Czars to the Soviets a brother could date a Russian woman and encounter little to no drama.
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I haven't heard of that - interesting!

Too bad the skinhead nationalist seem to be gaining stream nowadays. Or are at least operating unchecked. I have nothing against a people wanting to preserve their traditions and culture and can understand that these things make up their very identity. I get that. What I don't condone is the brutal violence done by these groups in the name of that goal. They are essentially trying to "scare" everyone who is non-white Russian out of the country.

I know most Russian people don't share these views. Particularly the women I would imagine. Many of them want to get out of Russia not because they don't love their country but because many of the men from what I HEAR are often alcoholic, abusive and basically have no respect for women or loyalty to a relationship. As the woman outnumber the men, it is thought that they don't really put much effort into the relationship because if she starts becoming a problem. he will just go out and get someone else. That is why the Russian woman/bride websites are so prevalent. Moreso than any other ethnic background it seems. Perhaps the few Russian women on this site can verify? I'm just relaying what I hear.

I say let them chase their women away! I'll take em' :twisted:
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hmmm....you know it all makes sense, but it's still a stereotype. I heard SO MANY TIMES that people (especially Americans) really think that all the Russian men are alcoholics and mafia, and many women are prostitutes, and there are many bears walking down the streets. lol it's so funny! i mean yeah, some Russian men drink a lot, but so do men in any country! i can say, when i just came to the States, i was shocked of seeing how people buy a few boxes of beer each! here, nobody does it! they can buy a bottle or two, but not the box!!!! and about Russian men, according to my experience, i can say, that they are more respectful to women than American men. maybe I've met the wrong guys only in the US, but they couldnt treat me the way i'm used to! and when i got upset of that, American girls told me "girl, it's America, you have to get used to it!" i'm pretty sure, there are some great men in the States, but i wasn't lucky enough to meet them while i was there. lol by the way, i still dont like Russian guys at all....i'm just not attracted! :roll:
 
DI said:
drow said:
Soulthinker said:
Had you read the stories of Jimmy Winkfield, Paul Robeson's son,and other brothers who dated and married Russian women Drow? Back in the day from the Czars to the Soviets a brother could date a Russian woman and encounter little to no drama.
Click to expand...

I haven't heard of that - interesting!

Too bad the skinhead nationalist seem to be gaining stream nowadays. Or are at least operating unchecked. I have nothing against a people wanting to preserve their traditions and culture and can understand that these things make up their very identity. I get that. What I don't condone is the brutal violence done by these groups in the name of that goal. They are essentially trying to "scare" everyone who is non-white Russian out of the country.

I know most Russian people don't share these views. Particularly the women I would imagine. Many of them want to get out of Russia not because they don't love their country but because many of the men from what I HEAR are often alcoholic, abusive and basically have no respect for women or loyalty to a relationship. As the woman outnumber the men, it is thought that they don't really put much effort into the relationship because if she starts becoming a problem. he will just go out and get someone else. That is why the Russian woman/bride websites are so prevalent. Moreso than any other ethnic background it seems. Perhaps the few Russian women on this site can verify? I'm just relaying what I hear.

I say let them chase their women away! I'll take em' :twisted:
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hmmm....you know it all makes sense, but it's still a stereotype. I heard SO MANY TIMES that people (especially Americans) really think that all the Russian men are alcoholics and mafia, and many women are prostitutes, and there are many bears walking down the streets. lol it's so funny! i mean yeah, some Russian men drink a lot, but so do men in any country! i can say, when i just came to the States, i was shocked of seeing how people buy a few boxes of beer each! here, nobody does it! they can buy a bottle or two, but not the box!!!! and about Russian men, according to my experience, i can say, that they are more respectful to women than American men. maybe I've met the wrong guys only in the US, but they couldnt treat me the way i'm used to! and when i got upset of that, American girls told me "girl, it's America, you have to get used to it!" i'm pretty sure, there are some great men in the States, but i wasn't lucky enough to meet them while i was there. lol by the way, i still dont like Russian guys at all....i'm just not attracted! :roll:
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Ty lady DI. I've read about that particular thing concerning Russian women on the many websites as one their reasons to look abroad for a mate. Perhaps that is what many of them tell themselves? Whatever their reasoning, I don't care! I'm just glad that many of them are open to finding a mate abroad let alone of another ethnicity :D
 
drow said:
DI said:
drow said:
Soulthinker said:
Had you read the stories of Jimmy Winkfield, Paul Robeson's son,and other brothers who dated and married Russian women Drow? Back in the day from the Czars to the Soviets a brother could date a Russian woman and encounter little to no drama.
Click to expand...

I haven't heard of that - interesting!

Too bad the skinhead nationalist seem to be gaining stream nowadays. Or are at least operating unchecked. I have nothing against a people wanting to preserve their traditions and culture and can understand that these things make up their very identity. I get that. What I don't condone is the brutal violence done by these groups in the name of that goal. They are essentially trying to "scare" everyone who is non-white Russian out of the country.

I know most Russian people don't share these views. Particularly the women I would imagine. Many of them want to get out of Russia not because they don't love their country but because many of the men from what I HEAR are often alcoholic, abusive and basically have no respect for women or loyalty to a relationship. As the woman outnumber the men, it is thought that they don't really put much effort into the relationship because if she starts becoming a problem. he will just go out and get someone else. That is why the Russian woman/bride websites are so prevalent. Moreso than any other ethnic background it seems. Perhaps the few Russian women on this site can verify? I'm just relaying what I hear.

I say let them chase their women away! I'll take em' :twisted:
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hmmm....you know it all makes sense, but it's still a stereotype. I heard SO MANY TIMES that people (especially Americans) really think that all the Russian men are alcoholics and mafia, and many women are prostitutes, and there are many bears walking down the streets. lol it's so funny! i mean yeah, some Russian men drink a lot, but so do men in any country! i can say, when i just came to the States, i was shocked of seeing how people buy a few boxes of beer each! here, nobody does it! they can buy a bottle or two, but not the box!!!! and about Russian men, according to my experience, i can say, that they are more respectful to women than American men. maybe I've met the wrong guys only in the US, but they couldnt treat me the way i'm used to! and when i got upset of that, American girls told me "girl, it's America, you have to get used to it!" i'm pretty sure, there are some great men in the States, but i wasn't lucky enough to meet them while i was there. lol by the way, i still dont like Russian guys at all....i'm just not attracted! :roll:
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Ty lady DI. I've read about that particular thing concerning Russian women on the many websites as one their reasons to look abroad for a mate. Perhaps that is what many of them tell themselves? Whatever their reasoning, I don't care! I'm just glad that many of them are open to finding a mate abroad let alone of another ethnicity :D
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oh yeah, you're absolutely right, Russian women are really open to other nationalities and races as well! :D and about those web sites...you know why they are looking that much for a foreign men? because they believe that life abroad is sooo much better and so are the men. i know they think so! lol and you wont believe how many TV broadcasts we have about some poor Russian women who married the foreigners and now have no rights, no love, nothing...they're trying to convince of those international and IR couples being wrong and harmful.
 
There's a lot of that kind of spam out there. My friend who is an African American WOMAN and has a profile on a big dating site, received the following letter the other day:

Hi! I'm a single girl and I'm 26 years old. Please take a look at my
pictures and let me know if you like them! I live in Russia and I'm
going to come to your country and work over there very soon! I don't know anybody over there and I thought it would be great to meet someone who is open to anything (as I am!). I would be happy to be friends, lovers or create a serious relationship! We will see what happens!
I hope you will write me back and I will write more info about myself
and send more photos!!!!!!!!!!!
I am writing from my friend's email
address, so please make sure you do not reply directly to this email.
Email me at ofidelityou6@yahoo.co.uk only.
if you don't use my personal email address then I won't be able to read
your reply and write you back. So it is very important that you get it right.
Ok, I guess it is now your turn. Hope to hear from you today. Bye!!
btw, i got your email from dating website
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The letter was sent from this email address: frederickjohnsondq@gmail.com
:lol:
 
I remember some show I watched, I forget what it's called, where the cops uncovered a global scam. An unsuspecting American man, an older fellow, was sending all this money to his "fiance" "Wendy" whom he had met online. He had been corresponding with "her" for a year but he'd only seen a few pictures. When he was gently told he had been scammed, he was so crushed. He cried and everything, poor fellow. But hello? Sending money to a "fiance" you never met? Our poster Joliemarie put it best when she said "where the penis leads, the wallet suffers."
 
Moskvichka said:
I remember some show I watched, I forget what it's called, where the cops uncovered a global scam. An unsuspecting American man, an older fellow, was sending all this money to his "fiance" "Wendy" whom he had met online. He had been corresponding with "her" for a year but he'd only seen a few pictures. When he was gently told he had been scammed, he was so crushed. He cried and everything, poor fellow. But hello? Sending money to a "fiance" you never met? Our poster Joliemarie put it best when she said "where the penis leads, the wallet suffers."
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right...but i think, everyone knows, that in today's world everybody wants to get something from you! is it money, sex, or any other advantage or whatever. so, if those men are smart enough, they would never send their money to the fiance, they've never met! so, if you did it, dont complain! lol it's you bad, not those women's! just think twice next time before doing something so fondly. :lol: by the way, there are many stories with the happy ends!
 
DI said:
Oh, I always wanted ask you if you are Russian?...and if you are, when did you move to the States and do you speak russian? so curious :D
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Da, of course I'm Russian, and I speak Russian. :D I'm from Moscow. I've moved to the States with my family when I was 15. I was married to an African, that's when I first started posting on this board. We're divorced now though. By the way I'm very happy for you that you met Bryant. You guys are both very nice young people, and a cute couple. I wish you all the best. 8)
 
Moskvichka said:
DI said:
Oh, I always wanted ask you if you are Russian?...and if you are, when did you move to the States and do you speak russian? so curious :D
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Da, of course I'm Russian, and I speak Russian. :D I'm from Moscow. I've moved to the States with my family when I was 15. I was married to an African, that's when I first started posting on this board. We're divorced now though. By the way I'm very happy for you that you met Bryant. You guys are both very nice young people, and a cute couple. I wish you all the best. 8)
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okkk, ochen' interesno! :) thanks for sharing all that, i was really wondering about you, because of your nick name. :D when have you been in Russia last time? I remember, many Russians in tne States, who moved long time ago, they still call Russia "Sovetskiy Soyuz" and still think, that we have nothing here. for instance, they were really surprised that I know how to use the chopsticks (they thought i saw it for the first time in my life lol)
oh thank you....yea, i'm happy to meet him. he's really good and special. so...hope to see him in the reality as well! :D
and by the way, where do you live in the US? (sorry, if i'm too curious :oops: )
 
DI said:
okkk, ochen' interesno! :) thanks for sharing all that, i was really wondering about you, because of your nick name. :D when have you been in Russia last time? I remember, many Russians in tne States, who moved long time ago, they still call Russia "Sovetskiy Soyuz" and still think, that we have nothing here. for instance, they were really surprised that I know how to use the chopsticks (they thought i saw it for the first time in my life lol)
oh thank you....yea, i'm happy to meet him. he's really good and special. so...hope to see him in the reality as well! :D
and by the way, where do you live in the US? (sorry, if i'm too curious :oops: )
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Actually I don't call Russia by the old name, because when I was little and still in Moscow the whole democratic movement was going on, and my family was politically involved. So I feel very strongly about the new democratic Russia. I follow the news, my favorite paper is www.rg.ru. But to be honest with you I don't like the Russian internet. There is so much trash and porn on there, and people in forums are so rude and nasty. By the way I live in NYC, we can meet up if you ever visit here. The last time I was in Russia was in 2005 and I couldn't get enough of looking at handsome Russian guys! :D Especially the OMON troopers in their uniforms? Hot! :D

If you want, let's keep in touch. I'll be happy to share my "American experience." Go to my other forum http://forum.rosjanie.pl and send me a private message, my username there is Masza. I don't want to post my email address on here.
 
Moskvichka said:
DI said:
okkk, ochen' interesno! :) thanks for sharing all that, i was really wondering about you, because of your nick name. :D when have you been in Russia last time? I remember, many Russians in tne States, who moved long time ago, they still call Russia "Sovetskiy Soyuz" and still think, that we have nothing here. for instance, they were really surprised that I know how to use the chopsticks (they thought i saw it for the first time in my life lol)
oh thank you....yea, i'm happy to meet him. he's really good and special. so...hope to see him in the reality as well! :D
and by the way, where do you live in the US? (sorry, if i'm too curious :oops: )
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Actually I don't call Russia by the old name, because when I was little and still in Moscow the whole democratic movement was going on, and my family was politically involved. So I feel very strongly about the new democratic Russia. I follow the news, my favorite paper is www.rg.ru. But to be honest with you I don't like the Russian internet. There is so much trash and porn on there, and people in forums are so rude and nasty. By the way I live in NYC, we can meet up if you ever visit here. The last time I was in Russia was in 2005 and I couldn't get enough of looking at handsome Russian guys! :D Especially the OMON troopers in their uniforms? Hot! :D

If you want, let's keep in touch. I'll be happy to share my "American experience." Go to my other forum http://forum.rosjanie.pl and send me a private message, my username there is Masza. I don't want to post my email address on here.
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really? you liked the OMON troopers? noooo, i dont even look at them, when i see. lol if I would see black omon troopers, i probably wouldnt be able to take me eyes away from them . :lol: you really think that russian guys are handsome? wooow! by the way, there are many of them in NYC, arent there? and by the way, i sent you a private message on that forum.
 
Question you back to dating just white dudes are you not mosk correct me if I am wrong. Not judging or trying to start trouble.
 
i just got this in the email today-- uh, does this sound for real to y'all?
I'm extremely skeptical.. :?
***
Hi my new friend
Im glad to see that you have decided to reply,I see it is very short
letter.
It is all right because you are astonished to get my letter.
I want you to know that I have only good intentions and I have not any
secrets.
The thing is that I will work in your country for three months or so
and
I would like to meet a nice man to fall in love or just be closest
friends.
I don't want to live in Russia because I have not any chances here,
it is hardly possible to explain from first time but I want you to know
my plans.
I will work in any shop, bar or restaurant the agency that i am going
through will suggest me some locations.
It will be my choice in the end as to what option to go for.
So I will have a simple work till I improve my English. And I can
choose any
town of your area,agency will only help me to get a visa and all travel
documents + some suggested placed to work in.
My best friend last year met the man from the USA when she worked there
for three months, too.
She had two jobs. From morning till 4 pm she worked in amusement park
and after it she worked as a waitress in some bar till midnight.
She was very tired of course but made very good money there.
It is special programm for young people who wants to work abroad and I
think it is the right way for me ,
I am lost here,and I think that I look pretty enough to find a better
place .I want to repeat the same way,it is
only my chance to meet a nice man.I want to work in USA or in Europe or
any
nice country. I am full of plans and different dreams and I want to
share my
life with good man because I'm also full of love and tenderness,I know
that
I am not so beautiful like Hollywood Princess but I do hope to meet my
Prince and
I am sure he will be not be disappoined to meet me in the real life!
This is why I am going to go through the same way.
Well,I will close this letter and I do hope to get your reply.
I will leave russia in two weeks or so (I can't tell you everything
exactly
right now) and I would like tobe sure that I have the man who waits for
me there. I will work all day and I want to find a man to spend all
free time
together to get to know each other better.if you have any interest to
meet me I will be more than happy to meet you too.
I will tell you all details about me and my life if you like my
pictures and
want to meet me! please send picture of you too!!!
I write to you with my new mailbox (**email censored), please write
letters now only on this mailbox.
I will wait your next letter.
Kiss you , (**name censored)-----
 
Hypestyle said:
i just got this in the email today-- uh, does this sound for real to y'all?
I'm extremely skeptical.. :?
***
Hi my new friend
Im glad to see that you have decided to reply,I see it is very short
letter.
It is all right because you are astonished to get my letter.
I want you to know that I have only good intentions and I have not any
secrets.
The thing is that I will work in your country for three months or so
and
I would like to meet a nice man to fall in love or just be closest
friends.
I don't want to live in Russia because I have not any chances here,
it is hardly possible to explain from first time but I want you to know
my plans.
I will work in any shop, bar or restaurant the agency that i am going
through will suggest me some locations.
It will be my choice in the end as to what option to go for.
So I will have a simple work till I improve my English. And I can
choose any
town of your area,agency will only help me to get a visa and all travel
documents + some suggested placed to work in.
My best friend last year met the man from the USA when she worked there
for three months, too.
She had two jobs. From morning till 4 pm she worked in amusement park
and after it she worked as a waitress in some bar till midnight.
She was very tired of course but made very good money there.
It is special programm for young people who wants to work abroad and I
think it is the right way for me ,
I am lost here,and I think that I look pretty enough to find a better
place .I want to repeat the same way,it is
only my chance to meet a nice man.I want to work in USA or in Europe or
any
nice country. I am full of plans and different dreams and I want to
share my
life with good man because I'm also full of love and tenderness,I know
that
I am not so beautiful like Hollywood Princess but I do hope to meet my
Prince and
I am sure he will be not be disappoined to meet me in the real life!
This is why I am going to go through the same way.
Well,I will close this letter and I do hope to get your reply.
I will leave russia in two weeks or so (I can't tell you everything
exactly
right now) and I would like tobe sure that I have the man who waits for
me there. I will work all day and I want to find a man to spend all
free time
together to get to know each other better.if you have any interest to
meet me I will be more than happy to meet you too.
I will tell you all details about me and my life if you like my
pictures and
want to meet me! please send picture of you too!!!
I write to you with my new mailbox (**email censored), please write
letters now only on this mailbox.
I will wait your next letter.
Kiss you , (**name censored)-----
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It doesn't sound good Hypestyle. It sounds like the classical e-mail scam to me. The scam is probably going to come when she claims to be getting her passports and visa. She's probably going to say there was a problem with the passport process, and needs a little help fixing the situation (your money). There actually is a pretty effective way of telling if they are a scammer or not. In your e-mail, go down to the bottom to where it says "full headers." click it. after you've done that, you'll be able to see their IP address and e-mail client. what you'll be looking for is something that says "X-Mailer." if you see something next to the X-mailer that says "The Bat!" it's definitely a scam. this article will tell you more about why that is the case:

http://www.datingnmore.com/fraud/scam_thebat.htm
 
hype,
that crap has been going around on the internet for years. don't fall for it. it's just spam - people get sucked into that crap every day, and then they get screwed. be careful!! :o
 
Hype

Unfortunately and fortunately it's a scam. Whomever this is basically told you their whole life story in one letter. Don't even reply...
 
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