"I'm Done With Slave Movies/We Need More Black Experience In America Movies"

GFunk said:
Nah,I think I was out of the country for training when it came out and it slipped my mind when I got back. That one actually looked pretty cool.
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That's my point. No disrespect meant, but a lot of cats had reasons for not seeing that movie or BUYING the DVD/Blueray. As a result, it didn't make much money. That translates into people don't want to see black men as heroes to Hollywood. So, all we get is slave flicks, the occasional Will Smith or Denzel joint, or Tyler Perry.

If we don't support the kinds of black films we want to see, then Hollywood is not going to make them. The only real color they care about these days is green.
 
JamalSpunky said:
There is nothing more tiring than the "sick of slave movies" complaint. There have only been a handful throughout the history of Hollywood film. Slave films are a rarity. Just because a few have come out over the last couple of years does not change that fact.
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Voice of reason
 
Richard Bare said:
Voice of reason
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What's funny is no other group constantly has to relive their atrocities and have it called art the way we do. Films about our humiliation and servitude seem to all the rage. The Help, The Butler, Twelve Years a Slave. You don't see a very clear pattern? It may not have an ulterior motive but it sure seems that way at times.
I don't see movie after movie about Chinese people working the railroads or Jews dealing with antisemitism. Seems like other groups get to move on. We have a much richer story than being slaves and Jim Crow
 
So wait......the same dude who says that the pirate show Black Sails, which is set in the slavery era, is a waste because it's not historically accurate & doesn't feature any assertive black men getting it on with white women (in the slavery era) is saying that complaints about slave movies is tiring??? :confused:
 
The Dark King said:
What's funny is no other group constantly has to relive their atrocities and have it called art the way we do. Films about our humiliation and servitude seem to all the rage. The Help, The Butler, Twelve Years a Slave. You don't see a very clear pattern? It may not have an ulterior motive but it sure seems that way at times.
I don't see movie after movie about Chinese people working the railroads or Jews dealing with antisemitism. Seems like other groups get to move on. We have a much richer story than being slaves and Jim Crow
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There was the film Snow Falling On Cedars dealing with the Isei and Nisei(first and second generation Japanese- American citizens) and their internment in camps during WW2. There was an interracial romance between actor Ethan Hawke and the Asian actress(I forgot her name.

There was another war film out recently that depicted the internment scenes and those Japanese-Americans who volunteered to fight. Mark Dacascos was in it, I think.
 
JamalSpunky said:
Epic fail. Have you not noticed the dozen films about the Holocaust that come out annually?
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It's not an "epic fail" it's the truth. Outside of Inglorious Basterds, Valkyrie and Schindler's list, one doesn't immediately spring to mind. I agree with the Idea that we are seeing too many of these productions when our history is far more than that. i am tired of being reminded about the fact that most of my ancestors were bought, sold and broken like kit-kat bars. The fact that some Hollywood Jew-in-name-only exec is getting obscenely rich by selling stories about it is even more infuriating.
 
DonnyJ said:
Most of the black oscar winners in this 2000-2014 era won their oscar playing a slave, maid or the main character of a biopic.
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Maybe you want to rethink this and add some more selections because during that timeline you provided only one person has won for a role of a maid and only one has won for a role as a slave. So, um, I guess all the others are biopics? Oh, wait.

Between 2001 and 2014 the winners have been:

Denzel as a corrupt cop
Halle Berry as a damaged widow
Forest Whiatker as an African dictator
Jennifer Hudson for a singer in a female group
Monique as a ruthless, abusive mother
Jamie Foxx for his role as a famous music icon
Morgan Freeman as a boxing trainer
Octavia Spencer for a maid
Lupita Nyong'o as a slave


Do the math. Even if we combined the biopics with the maid and the slave that would only be FOUR of the nine winners, which shoots down the theory that MOST of the winners came from those three categories. Sorry to ruin your argument with such annoying details known as facts. Actually I would even argue that Whitaker didn't even win for a biopic since that movie was all about the fictional white doctor not Idi Amin.

Look, I too realize there is a lack of variety in roles black people play. Been talking about that for years on this board. But let's not make bullshit up to prove a point. The reality is that slavery has not even come close to being addressed as often as it should have been. Same thing goes for the civil rights movement, one of the greatest moments in the history of America. Films about these subjects were not made because studios didn't want to insult or alienate white audiences. But here you folks are justifying the neglect of these events on cinema by basically siding with those who wanted to stay away from the subjects because they thought they were too racially charged. And what is your excuse for doing so? You are too ashamed of what your ancestors and predecessors had to go through? Fuck their pain of being forced to work in cotton fields, that ain't nothing compared to the trauma you guys have to endure by seeing black people in servitude on the big screen as you rest back in your comfortable movie seat while chewing down popcorn. The horror.

Once again...in the history of Hollywood there have been about a half dozen feature films that put American slavery in the forefront. Meanwhile there are a half dozen horrible black rom coms and a half dozen Kevin Hart flicks EVERY year.
 
djfromtheday said:
It's not an "epic fail" it's the truth. Outside of Inglorious Basterds, Valkyrie and Schindler's list, one doesn't immediately spring to mind. .
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My goodness. Friend, that only speaks to your lack of knowledge on films in general I suppose. Holocaust films, or ones that touch largely upon the subject, are a regular staple for annual western movies. I can name one that just came out in America over the last three months: "The Book Thief". Heard of it? If not maybe it is because you don't care or simply weren't paying attention. It wanted to be an Oscar contender but wasn't good enough unlike films like The Pianist or The Reader or Life Is Beautiful.
 
Gorath said:
Red Tails was pretty cool. I watch it a lot on DVD. The internet complaint/rant was that a lot of folks didn't believe that the 332 Pursuit Squadron ever existed. Then came the comment from one guy that he was sick of seeing films where black men become heroes. Well, I don't like seeing action/adventure films where black men become cowards or the perfunctory victims(the black guy always dies). It further bolsters the belief that white men can do it all, even save the world. Sure, their reasoning is that the purpose is to make money and that the target audience is for a white audience. The Brat Pack films were a good example(I loved The Breakfast Club and Sixteen Candles, though)you didn't see a black boy or girl in any of those films, as even a supporting character. But, that was the 80's. But, now, the times are changing. The new Annie film will star the little girl who was nominated for an Oscar for Best Actress for Beasts Of The Southern Wild(I think that was the title). And Jaime Foxx will play Daddy Warbucks.
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The problem with Red Tails was not its subject. It was its terrible script and uninspired direction. I was waiting for over 20 years fr Lucas to fulfill his promose to do the Tuskeege Airmen. I've been an admirer of those men wince I was a little boy. While I still praise Lucas for using his own money to make a film about those neglected black heroes, I still wish he had invested more in the script.
 
IamMe said:
I don't have an issue with "slave movies"....but Tyler Perry movies have got to go ASAP
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Agreed. Don't see the appeal at all. Feel the same way about Kevin Hart too. Black art is not progressing these days. I am glad to see the financial success these artists are having but they are not growing their craft.
 
djfromtheday said:
Agreed. Don't see the appeal at all. Feel the same way about Kevin Hart too. Black art is not progressing these days. I am glad to see the financial success these artists are having but they are not growing their craft.
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I can stomach Kevin Hart, but can't stand Katt Williams. But u are right. Same old schtick..."black man do it like this, white man do it like that". Blah!
 
JamalSpunky said:
The problem with Red Tails was not its subject. It was its terrible script and uninspired direction. I was waiting for over 20 years fr Lucas to fulfill his promose to do the Tuskeege Airmen. I've been an admirer of those men wince I was a little boy. While I still praise Lucas for using his own money to make a film about those neglected black heroes, I still wish he had invested more in the script.
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The movie was written by Aaron MacGruder(author of The Boondocks) and John Ridley. Star Wars associate Rick McCallum co-produced and it was directed by Anthony Hemingway. George Lucas put a lot of his own money into the project because 20th Century Fox didn't want to back it. George Lucas, to this day has not made another big studio film since Red Tails and will make art house films. He is connected to the 7th installment of the Star Wars saga, though. My younger brother met one of the Tuskeege Airmen and he signed an autograph on an unopened G.I. JOE collector's edition of a Tuskeege Airman(He is a serious collector of G.I. JOE). He hasn't opened that box since.
 
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JamalSpunky said:
The problem with Red Tails was not its subject. It was its terrible script and uninspired direction. I was waiting for over 20 years fr Lucas to fulfill his promose to do the Tuskeege Airmen. I've been an admirer of those men wince I was a little boy. While I still praise Lucas for using his own money to make a film about those neglected black heroes, I still wish he had invested more in the script.
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i agree. i liked the movie but it could have been better. the hbo version was much better
 
djfromtheday said:
Agreed. Don't see the appeal at all. Feel the same way about Kevin Hart too. Black art is not progressing these days. I am glad to see the financial success these artists are having but they are not growing their craft.
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his tv show and stand up is the shit. havent seen the movies tho but they have done well. there have been good black comedy/love movies (so i heard) this year.
im sick of the "yes suh/ma'am" movies.

tyler ...eh. "why did i get married" is the only one i liked.
im just happy hes doing it. getting blacks t work and exposed
 
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