Independence Day? North Korea wants to provide some fireworks for folks in Hawaii

Sir Nose

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Well, Joe Biden famously predicted that Barrack Obama would be tested early in his presidency. Will this be the test? North Korea's leadership have demonstrated in recent months that they are not kidding when it comes to missile launches.

How should we react if they shoot towards Hawaii (even if they fall short)? It would clearly be a direct threat.

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SEOUL, South Korea (AP) - North Korea may fire a long-range ballistic missile toward Hawaii in early July, a Japanese news report said Thursday, as Russia and China urged the regime to return to international disarmament talks on its rogue nuclear program.

The missile, believed to be a Taepodong-2 with a range of up to 4,000 miles, would be launched from North Korea's Dongchang-ni site

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090618/D98T1AR00.html
 
Well, Joe Biden famously predicted that Barrack Obama would be tested early in his presidency. Will this be the test? North Korea's leadership have demonstrated in recent months that they are not kidding when it comes to missile launches.

How should we react if they shoot towards Hawaii (even if they fall short)? It would clearly be a direct threat.

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SEOUL, South Korea (AP) - North Korea may fire a long-range ballistic missile toward Hawaii in early July, a Japanese news report said Thursday, as Russia and China urged the regime to return to international disarmament talks on its rogue nuclear program.

The missile, believed to be a Taepodong-2 with a range of up to 4,000 miles, would be launched from North Korea's Dongchang-ni site

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090618/D98T1AR00.html

Reminds me of Pearl Harbor all over...

why are the Asians always attacking Hawaii

:p

That would be sabre-rattling on an epic scale tho..

if they launch missiles towards Hawaii, what do we do?

do we continue to try to impose sanctions?

or do we return the favor and welcome them to the Big Leagues, with a couple of B-2s
 
To me this suggests that Kim Jong-Il is in bad shape; the regime is making a show of strength in attempt to foster internal stability should his son be forced into power. NK promised an 1000 fold attack if we were to attack them. Only thing, we could respond with a million fold attack with our supply of 5,000 nukes, and they are aware of that.
 
Only thing, we could respond with a million fold attack with our supply of 5,000 nukes, and they are aware of that.

Yes, they must be, but is the decision-maker thinking rationally? With NK, Iran, the Economy, swatting flies, etc. this is turning out to be quite an exciting first year for President Obama.
 
i think there is a fine line with how diplomatic this presidency can be with north korea...obama is going to have to make an example out of someone and it might as well be north korea...none of this ground troop crap anymore...if the usa is going to fend off any/all countries entertaining the idea of bombing the usa or even launching anything in our direction...i say hit them where it hurts and let the rest of the world watch and be weary that the usa is not going to role over and play dead...you are either friend or foe...
 
A (a being singular) Japanese news report makes an unsubstantiated claim and people are calling for blood already? Lord what is wrong with our society that we want 100 lbs of flesh for ANY perceived injustice or now even potential injustice?
 
Lord what is wrong with our society that we want 100 lbs of flesh for ANY perceived injustice or now even potential injustice?

North Korea launching missiles towards America would not be an injustice, it would be a threat, actual, not perceived. The threat was made, we should be prepared, and they have already demonstrated over the past several weeks that they are in the habit of launching missiles.

It is not only the US, but the UN, EU, Japan, China and other entities who object. Are they all nuts?

You may not be comfortable with the idea, but national security is one of the few responsibilities explicity obliged to the federal govt by the US Constitution.
 
the saga continues..?

SEOUL, South Korea – North Korea accused Washington of seeking to "provoke a second Korean War" as the regime prepared to hold maritime military exercises off the eastern coast.

U.S. and regional authorities were watching closely for signs that North Korea might fire short- or mid-range missiles during the June 25 to July 10 timeframe cited in a no-sail ban for military drills sent to Japan's Coast Guard.

North Korea had warned previously it would fire a long-range missile as a response to U.N. Security Council condemnation of an April rocket launch seen as a cover for its ballistic missile technology.

An underground nuclear test last month drew more Security Council action: a resolution seeking to clamp down on North Korea's trading of banned arms and weapons-related material by requiring U.N. member states to request inspections of ships carrying suspected cargo.

In a first test of the new resolution, a North Korean ship suspected of transporting illicit weapons was sailing off China's coast with a U.S. destroyer close behind.

The Kang Nam, which left the North Korean port of Nampo a week ago, is believed bound for Myanmar, South Korean and U.S. officials said.
A senior U.S. defense official, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was unable to discuss intelligence on the vessel, said Wednesday that the ship had already cleared the Taiwan Strait.

He said he didn't know how much range the Kang Nam has — that is, whether or when it may need to stop in some port to refuel — but that the Kang Nam has in the past stopped in Hong Kong's port.

North Korea has said it would consider interception a declaration of war, and on Wednesday accused the U.S. of seeking to start another Korean War.

"If the U.S. imperialists start another war, the army and people of Korea will ... wipe out the aggressors on the globe once and for all," a dispatch from the official Korean Central News Agency said.

The warning came on the eve of the 59th anniversary of the outbreak of the Korean War. The brutal fighting ended after three years in a truce in 1953, not a peace treaty, leaving the peninsula divided and in a state of war. The U.S. has 28,500 troops in South Korea to protect against an outbreak of hostilities.

On Wednesday, the top U.S. commander in South Korea, Gen. Walter Sharp, praised soldiers from U.S.-led U.N. forces who died fighting the "tyranny" of communist North Korea decades ago.

"A North Korean victory in the Korean War would have brought the nightmare of tyranny to this great land, thrusting the citizens of the Republic of Korea into a darkness that their northern counterparts have yet to emerge from," he said a commemoration ceremony Wednesday, referring to South Korea by its official name, the Republic of Korea.
Reports about possible missile launches from the North highlighted the state of tension on the Korean peninsula.

A senior South Korean government official said the no-sail ban is believed connected to North Korean plans to fire short- or mid-range missiles. He spoke on condition of anonymity, citing department policy.

Yonhap reported that the North may fire a Scud missile with a range of up to 310 miles (500 kilometers) or a short-range ground-to-ship missile with a range of 100 miles (160 kilometers) during the no-sail period.

U.S. defense and counterproliferation officials in Washington said they also expected the North to launch short- to medium-range missiles. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive intelligence.

South Korea will expedite the introduction of high-tech unmanned aerial surveillance systems and "bunker-buster" bombs in response to North Korea's provocations, the Chosun Ilbo newspaper said, citing lawmakers.
Meanwhile, a flurry of diplomatic efforts were under way to try getting North Korea to return to disarmament talks.

Russia's top nuclear envoy, Alexei Borodavkin, said after meeting with his South Korean counterpart that Moscow is open to other formats for discussion since Pyongyang has pulled out of formal six-nation negotiations.

In Beijing, top U.S. and Chinese defense officials also discussed North Korea. U.S. Defense Undersecretary Michele Flournoy was heading next to Tokyo and Seoul for talks.

South Korea has proposed high-level "consultations" to discuss North Korea with the U.S., Russia, China and Japan.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_koreas_nuclear
 
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