Is There Ever A Reason To Hit A Woman?

[The Dark King]

Is there a one size that fits all approach, there are many kinds of women character, personality wise.

Some women have a serious lack of class and do not behave like ladies in the sense of how they conduct themselves.

I have always said I don't care if you are a man or a woman, nothing gives you the right to put your hands on another human being. But we know it happens in the real world.

In this era of equality between the sexes. My belief is you keep your hands to yourself and I will keep mine to myself.

No one should have to tolerate being hit because of their sex, be it whether you are a man or a woman.

I'm chivalrous to women who carry themselves with respect.

Exactly. Good point

 

[The Dark King]

That's horrible! You do NOT beat a woman down for that. This thinking gives license for men to go nuts and beat the shit out of her cause she pushed him or some silly shit.



Beautifully said! :smt023 You get it! What you do MAKES SENSE!

You know you can kill her bare-fisted, but you don't, instead you subdue her, because you can.
Mad props Big D...you need to school a cpl of these fist ready brawlers in here.

You really think if men get the "ok" to hit a woman back after she hits him it will encourage men to abuse women? Come on Bliss that's far from true. Just like the rape argument pieces of shit who abuse and harm women could give a fuck less about public perception. Its frowned upon now and dudes still do it.

 

[GQ Brotha]

This is 2013, some dudes frankly just don't give a fuck about being nice guys and you should not hit a woman, even if she lump you up first.

Once someone instigates violence against another person, there is no telling how the other person may react.

Some men may curl up and accept a woman hitting him, others may lose control. Its all based on the individual's personality.

This is why everyone should keep their hands to themselves.

Moreover why would a woman attempt to do something to a man that she would never attempt with another woman without expecting a retaliation from said person.

A classic example [YOUTUBE]W6JttyZZ2io[/YOUTUBE]

Now how many guys on here would accept that treatment that this dude got.

Don't underestimate some women out here today.

This isn't the era of June and Ward Cleaver.

What about this thing and her behavior

[YOUTUBE]ddRCZYG2a58[/YOUTUBE]

Very worthy of respect as a woman, right.

 

[wtarshi]

That's horrible! You do NOT beat a woman down for that. This thinking gives license for men to go nuts and beat the shit out of her cause she pushed him or some silly shit.

I was being too liberal with my wording. As someone who doesn't believe in violence, I always say to use your words not hands, hell, my children have never been spanked.

What I know is this, I teach my son that hitting his sister is not acceptable EVER, not because she is a girl, but because she is his sister and physical violence is wrong. I don't say to him you can't hit girls because they are girls, I say to him that you do not fix conflict with violence. I will say however when he is older, if he runs into a situation where he is being physically harmed and there is no way he can get out of the situation but to fight back, then fight back. Doesn't matter whàt the sex of the person is, do what is necessary to get out of it and get to safety.

If a woman is stupid enough to go a man or another woman with her fist and start physical violence then she shouldn't be surprised at it coming back at her. Period. Self defence is just that, self defence.

From what I've seen on YouTube videos out there, I've seen enough to know violence is on the up and up and it's not just males who are initiating shit. These females need to know that just because they are females it doesn't give them a special pass to punch and then act surprised when a punch comes back.

 

[GQ Brotha]

From what I've seen on YouTube videos out there, I've seen enough to know violence is on the up and up and it's not just males who are initiating shit. These females need to know that just because they are females it doesn't give them a special pass to punch and then act surprised when a punch comes back.

I think this is what changes the whole ballgame and I'm glad you mentioned that. Just from the 2 clips I posted, this isn't the olden days.

There are women running around in gangs now attacking people in some places.

I'm not sleeping on anyone because of their sex. I'm gonna protect me, because my own mother never had to put her hands on me, I'll be damned if someone else does as a means of initiating violence.

The easiest solution is man/woman keep your funky ass hands to yourself.

 

[RaiderLL]

I was being too liberal with my wording. As someone who doesn't believe in violence, I always say to use your words not hands, hell, my children have never been spanked.

What I know is this, I teach my son that hitting his sister is not acceptable EVER, not because she is a girl, but because she is his sister and physical violence is wrong. I don't say to him you can't hit girls because they are girls, I say to him that you do not fix conflict with violence. I will say however when he is older, if he runs into a situation where he is being physically harmed and there is no way he can get out of the situation but to fight back, then fight back. Doesn't matter whàt the sex of the person is, do what is necessary to get out of it and get to safety.

If a woman is stupid enough to go a man or another woman with her fist and start physical violence then she shouldn't be surprised at it coming back at her. Period. Self defence is just that, self defence.

From what I've seen on YouTube videos out there, I've seen enough to know violence is on the up and up and it's not just males who are initiating shit. These females need to know that just because they are females it doesn't give them a special pass to punch and then act surprised when a punch comes back.

Perfectly stated.

 

[Ches]

This is 2013, some dudes frankly just don't give a fuck about being nice guys and you should not hit a woman, even if she lump you up first.

Once someone instigates violence against another person, there is no telling how the other person may react.

Some men may curl up and accept a woman hitting him, others may lose control. Its all based on the individual's personality.

This is why everyone should keep their hands to themselves.

Moreover why would a woman attempt to do something to a man that she would never attempt with another woman without expecting a retaliation from said person.

A classic example [YOUTUBE]W6JttyZZ2io[/YOUTUBE]

Now how many guys on here would accept that treatment that this dude got.

Don't underestimate some women out here today.

This isn't the era of June and Ward Cleaver.

What about this thing and her behavior

[YOUTUBE]ddRCZYG2a58[/YOUTUBE]

It's a sad indicator of our times that instead of trying to break up a fight, we go for our cell phones to record it.

 

[GQ Brotha]

It's a sad indicator of our times that instead of trying to break up a fight, we go for our cell phones to record it.

Only you can defend yourself, don't expect anyone else to do it for you in this day and age out in the real world.

With the advent of Youtube we are seeing stuff like this

[YOUTUBE]-Zd1uBivey8[/YOUTUBE]

And those were all young women that attempted to attack a grown man, go figure. What choice does he have but to react and protect himself.

 

[GQ Brotha]

Now don't get me wrong I'm not saying dudes should go around snuffing women.

However when you encounter some rowdy characters that don't have any home training and you are faced with violence being initiated towards you, you have to defend yourself and that may include lashing out at said perp to bring levity to the situation.

In this day and age we are hearing of females running around in gangs assaulting, stabbing and robbing folks, no different from any common street thug doing dirt.

This is why I always say one of the qualities I look for in a woman is class.

 

[Bliss]

Is there a one size that fits all approach, there are many kinds of women character, personality wise.

Some women have a serious lack of class and do not behave like ladies in the sense of how they conduct themselves.

I have always said I don't care if you are a man or a woman, nothing gives you the right to put your hands on another human being. But we know it happens in the real world.

In this era of equality between the sexes. My belief is you keep your hands to yourself and I will keep mine to myself.

Violence against women is not a trivial issue and men who do it should rightfully be treated as the pariah's they are.

In the same vein I never understood the notion that any woman should have a right to put her hands on a man just because she cannot control herself and as a man he should just have to accept it, where is the equality in that.

No one should have to tolerate being hit because of their sex, be it whether you are a man or a woman.

I'm chivalrous to women who carry themselves with respect, respect yourself to know right from wrong in how you deal with others.

You most certainly have a right to defend yourself. But don't be fooled by the thread's premise which isn't "is it ok to defend yourself from assault", (otherwise women should be able to shoot dead a man who slaps her right? No women in jail for that, right?) It's misleading and too broad, ambiguous, so as to invite commentary beliefs that 'of course its ok, it's women's lib, women are crazy these days, its not 1950, when the reality is HITTING a woman is not about that, it's about beating her.

 

[Stizzy]

Only you can defend yourself, don't expect anyone else to do it for you in this day and age out in the real world.

With the advent of Youtube we are seeing stuff like this

[YOUTUBE]-Zd1uBivey8[/YOUTUBE]

And those were all young women that attempted to attack a grown man, go figure. What choice does he have but to react and protect himself.

That video was funny. Lol

 

[Bliss]

I was being too liberal with my wording. As someone who doesn't believe in violence, I always say to use your words not hands, hell, my children have never been spanked.

What I know is this, I teach my son that hitting his sister is not acceptable EVER, not because she is a girl, but because she is his sister and physical violence is wrong. I don't say to him you can't hit girls because they are girls, I say to him that you do not fix conflict with violence. I will say however when he is older, if he runs into a situation where he is being physically harmed and there is no way he can get out of the situation but to fight back, then fight back. Doesn't matter whàt the sex of the person is, do what is necessary to get out of it and get to safety.

If a woman is stupid enough to go a man or another woman with her fist and start physical violence then she shouldn't be surprised at it coming back at her. Period. Self defence is just that, self defence.

From what I've seen on YouTube videos out there, I've seen enough to know violence is on the up and up and it's not just males who are initiating shit. These females need to know that just because they are females it doesn't give them a special pass to punch and then act surprised when a punch comes back.

Yes it was extremely liberal. And that's when it can become dangerous. If your last line is What YOU MEANT, then that is what needed to be said. Because men and women co-signing need to know that a man's punches are not the same as a woman's. Using the bus driver example, his punch knocked her off her feet. But he had to because she was endangering others lives by repeatedly slapping/hitting hm while he was driving. That was justified. But in a normal scenerio, no you don't uppercut a woman slapping you. I don't give a shit how a changed world/2013 we are, our strengths have not changed.

 

[Stizzy]

Is there a one size that fits all approach, there are many kinds of women character, personality wise.

Some women have a serious lack of class and do not behave like ladies in the sense of how they conduct themselves.

I have always said I don't care if you are a man or a woman, nothing gives you the right to put your hands on another human being. But we know it happens in the real world.

In this era of equality between the sexes. My belief is you keep your hands to yourself and I will keep mine to myself.

Violence against women is not a trivial issue and men who do it should rightfully be treated as the pariah's they are.

In the same vein I never understood the notion that any woman should have a right to put her hands on a man just because she cannot control herself and as a man he should just have to accept it, where is the equality in that.

No one should have to tolerate being hit because of their sex, be it whether you are a man or a woman.

I'm chivalrous to women who carry themselves with respect, respect yourself to know right from wrong in how you deal with others.

The key word is equality. Well said homie. Women wanted it, they got it. I'm a firm believer in "keep your hands to yourself". Slap me and you're getting slapped back. Punch me and your getting slapped a little harder. Attack me like these videos and you're a problem. Problems have to be handled.

 

[GQ Brotha]

You most certainly have a right to defend yourself. But don't be fooled by the thread's premise which isn't "is it ok to defend yourself from assault", (otherwise women should be able to shoot dead a man who slaps her right? No women in jail for that, right?) It's misleading and too broad, ambiguous, so as to invite commentary beliefs that 'of course its ok, it's women's lib, women are crazy these days, its not 1950, when the reality is HITTING a woman is not about that, it's about beating her.

Well if we are speaking about this kind of scenario (Wife Beating Etiquette)

[YOUTUBE]ChnpaMK1oLQ[/YOUTUBE]

then certainly NOT

Also the situation you mentioned vis a vis women's self defense is reliant on a man putting his hands on her to initiate violence, something I could not and would not ever condone.

Any violence within the context of a domestic relationship is not kosher and therefore in our society the most prudent means is to contact the police.

My sentiments are more towards an evolving society, and what one may encounter at the whims of a stranger, man or woman, where the chivalric notions of the past are becoming less warranted in a society as a person of equal standing, be one woman or man.

What do you make though of the words of the English novelist Charlotte Brontë who said

When we are struck at without reason, we should strike back again very hard, I am sure we should-so hard as to teach the person who struck us never to do it again

 

[Bliss]

You really think if men get the "ok" to hit a woman back after she hits him it will encourage men to abuse women? Come on Bliss that's far from true. Just like the rape argument pieces of shit who abuse and harm women could give a fuck less about public perception. Its frowned upon now and dudes still do it.

Why wouldn't it? This is not about perceptions, it's real. It's no longer much frowned upon to hit a woman if she hits you - are you kidding me? But what is kept to a minimum in that argument is too many men when dealing with a woman they know, who may lay her hands on him, beat the shit out of her in retaliation, and even more men do it in general when she didn't touch him, period. Not surprised that it's downplayed, though.

 

[GQ Brotha]

Why wouldn't it? This is not about perceptions, it's real. It's no longer much frowned upon to hit a woman if she hits you - are you kidding me? But what is kept to a minimum in that argument is too many men when dealing with a woman they know, who may lay her hands on him, beat the shit out of her in retaliation, and even more men do it in general when she didn't touch him, period. Not surprised that it's downplayed, btw.

I see what your position on as far as a man using the notion of hey she hit me so I will fuck her up 10x worse for numerous reasons within our relationship is.

My starting point is that we all keep our hands to ourselves and no man nor woman should take the liberty of laying their hands on another merely because of one's sex. One expecting that no man should ever hit a woman, the other that I am physically stronger and will use violence to assert my control over her. Neither of which is welcomed in my logic of thinking on this matter.

There are situations in which we will see women put their hands on a man and then he becomes the bad guy for reacting to it and not just accepting whatever she wants to do to him.

When if he was to initiate violence he would be the biggest p.o.s. on Earth and rightfully so.

I guess I have a hard time since I am someone who believes in equality to accept duplicity on such matters.

We should all have the common courtesy and respect to keep our hands to ourselves.

Being a woman should give no woman the right to put her hands on a man because of birthright with the expectation that he won't respond to it, just as being born a man doesn't give me the right to assume a woman is often physically weaker and I can abuse her to do my will.

Men who are abusers often will do it regardless of what the woman does, she doesn't have to touch him for him to have a reason. She could not cook the proper meal, not do the laundry, he just had a bad day, he got drunk, etc. Many women who are in such relationships try to do everything to avoid the abuse and it still will occur at the whims of the abuser because that is who that individual man is as a person.

Abuse is a means of control obviously and is totally a non starter with me. Would get no arguments from me about such men.

 

[GQ Brotha]

The key word is equality. Well said homie. Women wanted it, they got it. I'm a firm believer in "keep your hands to yourself". Slap me and you're getting slapped back. Punch me and your getting slapped a little harder. Attack me like these videos and you're a problem. Problems have to be handled.

Pretty much don't start no shit, won't be no shit.

I have no desire to put my hands on any woman, but if I encounter such funky, misanthropic characters as in the clips I posted then self defense is paramount to protect my well being. Some folks just don't know how to act right.

 

[Bliss]

Well if we are speaking about this kind of scenario (Wife Beating Etiquette)

[YOUTUBE]ChnpaMK1oLQ[/YOUTUBE]

then certainly NOT

Also the situation you mentioned vis a vis women's self defense is reliant on a man putting his hands on her to initiate violence, something I could not and would not ever condone.

Any violence within the context of a domestic relationship is not kosher and therefore in our society the most prudent means is to contact the police.

My sentiments are more towards an evolving society, and what one may encounter at the whims of a stranger, man or woman, where the chivalric notions of the past are becoming less warranted in a society as a person of equal standing, be one woman or man.

What do you make though of the words of the English novelist Charlotte Brontë who said

The Islamic video highlighted....speechless. No more than ten beatings, huh. Beating etiquette 101 - don't break her bones. She will feel honored you beat her...Wow..I bet you there are even non islamic men who watch it and agree with it.

Bronte Im going to assume, kept it in context. Some people are not able to, however. This is why we have dead children and women in morgues because assholes don't respect their physical dominance over the weaker sex/children.
Until the genetic playing fields are leveled, it MUST be drummed into men today NOT that 'its OK to hit a woman' but 'IF you decide to, KNOW YOUR POWER. Know your strength.'

 

[Bliss]

Pretty much don't start no shit, won't be no shit.

I have no desire to put my hands on any woman, but if I encounter such funky, misanthropic characters as in the clips I posted then self defense is paramount to protect my well being. Some folks just don't know how to act right.

Iin your video clips, what you show is assault. Pure and simple. Regardless of the sexes involved. Your video of the man knocking the girl out is ALSO indicative that no matter how tough a bitch thinks she is, a man's fist will most always trump hers. Women need to RESPECT this and have it drummed into them too.

However IMO, there is NOT enough justification for a majority collective agreement to occur that 'yes, it's ok'. Of course you can find many examples but when you soup "see, she hit him so yeah its ok!" in with the rampant beat downs women get by crazed men, there is NO comparison in numbers and it dilutes the huge REAL problem of physical abuse occurring.

 

[GQ Brotha]

The Islamic video highlighted....speechless. No more than ten beatings, huh. Beating etiquette 101 - don't break her bones. She will feel honored you beat her...Wow..I bet you there are even non islamic men who watch it and agree with it.

Bronte Im going to assume, kept it in context. Some people are not able to, however. This is why we have dead children and women in morgues because assholes don't respect their physical dominance over the weaker sex/children.
Until the genetic playing fields are leveled, it MUST be drummed into men today NOT that 'its OK to hit a woman' but 'IF you decide to, KNOW YOUR POWER. Know your strength.'

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BTW, in your previous posts video SELECTIONS what you show is assault. Pure and simple. Regardless of the sexes involved. Your video of the man knocking the girl out is ALSO indicative that no matter how tough a bitch thinks she is, a man's fist will most always trump hers. Women need to RESPECT this and have it drummed into them too.

However IMO, there is NOT enough justification for a majority collective agreement to occur that 'yes, it's ok'. Of course you can find many examples but when you soup "see, she hit him so yeah its ok!" in with the rampant beat downs women get by crazed men, there is NO comparison in numbers and it dilutes the huge REAL problem of physical abuse occurring.

I completely understand where you are coming from as far as real world issues behind close doors and violence against women.

Which is why I made sure to reiterate my stance on that. I respect a woman who respects herself and domestic violence is a non starter in my book.

My views are more towards social settings.

Notice in the clip in the school even as the white dude was being abused, there were folks telling him don't hit her, despite what she was doing to him.

It is that duplicity that makes me wonder, why is that okay to some.

Why should he have to accept that just because he is born a man, when if he was doing that to her, he would be the lowest form of life and rightfully so.

I just feel very strongly that right is right and wrong is wrong.