Is your attraction exclusively toward ww/bm?

K said:
That's all great and I'm never going to say money doesn't matter at all. Have to be able to pay the bills.

Maybe the big stuff is really "sexy" or whatever. But truth be told, for many of us the part in all that which really does it for us is the thoughtfulness that's involved. That part is part of who you are, no matter what level your income is. I'm betting when you weren't able to do it up big you still would things that were thoughtful. Actually, I don't have to bet - you've shared enough on here over the years that prove what I'm saying is true. Romantic isn't based on the amount you spent, it's about that you cared enough to do things that were special and unique to her.

And on the other side of it....I'm pretty sure the woman who appreciates what you do and the thoughtfulness about it is who stands out for you much more than the one who's impressed by how much you spent. I know enough about you to know that you aren't going for the chicca who gets all starry eyed if a man throws expensive gifts her way.
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True I'm a romantic at heart I'm just saying money makes it easier. My girl is happy with a home cooked meal but I know she also likes putting on her sexy black dress and holding hands while we stroll to the restaurant people watching.
Money ain't everything but being able to be spontaneous and the ability to alleviate stress comes from having decent finances.
All I'm saying is we can't deny the sexy allure that money brings no more than we can ignore a beautiful woman in a nice dress.
 
RicardoCooper said:
Well lucky I'm not dating any of you women
Tough crowd
LOL
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Just to be clear, I couldn't care less how much money a guy has, or how much he earns.
In fact, men who are flash and flaunt having money are a massive turnoff.
His character and qualities as a person are what count.
And, yes, I'll admit it, looks. Physical attraction is important for me. I don't see anything wrong with that at all.
I'll also say that I like a guy to be the same height or taller than me. Pretty sure all women would say that.
It's a preference, that's all. Some will be firmer on it than others.
 
redlolly said:
Just to be clear, I couldn't care less how much money a guy has, or how much he earns.
In fact, men who are flash and flaunt having money are a massive turnoff.
His character and qualities as a person are what count.
And, yes, I'll admit it, looks. Physical attraction is important for me. I don't see anything wrong with that at all.
I'll also say that I like a guy to be the same height or taller than me. Pretty sure all women would say that.
It's a preference, that's all. Some will be firmer on it than others.
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I agree. The whole poser thing is not impressive at all. So many men like to grag and show off and frankly its on of the quickest wasys for me to loose interest.
 
redlolly said:
Just to be clear, I couldn't care less how much money a guy has, or how much he earns.
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I'm going to definitely agree with the rest of what you posted. The whole flash and cash thing is annoying as can be, and I really don't need to ever hear about how much money you spent on ridiculous purchases.

However, this particular part about not caring at all how much he earns....I have to really question. I know many women say it, but when it gets down to it and you are talking about committed relationships - how real is that? Are you really ok with a guy who doesn't work, or barely works, not able to pay his own bills, take care of his family, etc?

I'm just saying that I think that's a bit of a fantasy statement. I definitely care how much one makes. My feeling is that he should be able to take care of himself and his own family (if he has one) and be able to go out and do things. That's not about a specific amount because that's going to depend on his specifics.
 
K said:
I'm going to definitely agree with the rest of what you posted. The whole flash and cash thing is annoying as can be, and I really don't need to ever hear about how much money you spent on ridiculous purchases.

However, this particular part about not caring at all how much he earns....I have to really question. I know many women say it, but when it gets down to it and you are talking about committed relationships - how real is that? Are you really ok with a guy who doesn't work, or barely works, not able to pay his own bills, take care of his family, etc?

I'm just saying that I think that's a bit of a fantasy statement. I definitely care how much one makes. My feeling is that he should be able to take care of himself and his own family (if he has one) and be able to go out and do things. That's not about a specific amount because that's going to depend on his specifics.
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Yeah agreed it's not completely unimportant how much a man makes, but money can't make me be with a guy who is physically, mentally or spiritually unattractive to me.
 
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K said:
Are you really ok with a guy who doesn't work, or barely works, not able to pay his own bills, take care of his family, etc?
I'm just saying that I think that's a bit of a fantasy statement. I definitely care how much one makes. My feeling is that he should be able to take care of himself and his own family (if he has one) and be able to go out and do things. That's not about a specific amount because that's going to depend on his specifics.
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It wasn't a fantasy statement. It depends on the characteristics of the guy. If he doesn't work or barely works, what are the reasons for that?
It wouldn't stop me being with a guy, depending on the circumstances. Why is he in that situation, how does he feel about it, and what is he doing to change it?
Lack of money & material wealth alone would not put me off being with someone.

Not taking care of himself/family & failing to meet his obligations is something else. That's a bigger problem, and not only about money in my view.
 
Madeleine said:
Hahaha, we are women, we have to elaborate a bit...
I have dated an Indian guy and an Iranian guy before. Problem with the Indian men is they are just too short (on average) and they are such mummy boys they'll never leave home and can't even cook their own tea. Problem with the Iranian guy was he was psychologically unstable and he wanted me to wear a headscarf to take pics of me to send home to his mummy. So I'm serious with the "open to all races as long as darker in complexion and has brown eyes;-)" But then it's all hypothetical anyway...
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That's funny, I had a similar experience with a Tunisian guy, who like me to wear an abaya in the company of his friends and for some photos.
 
sarah23 said:
That's funny, I had a similar experience with a Tunisian guy, who like me to wear an abaya in the company of his friends and for some photos.
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Yeah, right?!
And you know what really pisses me off? They take all the advantages of us being free, liberated Western girls (I.e. sex), but then turn around and expect us to meet their families religious standards. And of course in the end dump us to go marry a virgin girl from their country.
But I was just 16 at the time and am glad I didn't have sex with him cause I know he'd have done that exactly.
 
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Madeleine said:
Yeah, right?!
And you know what really pisses me off? They take all the advantages of us being free, liberated Western girls (I.e. sex), but then turn around and expect us to meet their families religious standards. And of course in the end dump us to go marry a virgin girl from their country.
But I was just 16 at the time and am glad I didn't have sex with him cause I know he'd have done that exactly.
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I have dated back muslim and Arab muslim.
I would not say that all are as you describe them.
Sure some are.
Like all relationships, its give and take, with no one dominating the other.
 
sarah23 said:
I have dated bl

I have dated back muslim and Arab muslim.
I would not say that all are as you describe them.
Sure some are.
Like all relationships, its give and take, with no one dominating the other.
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You are right, one cannot generalize. Sure there must be some who aren't like that. But I've seen mane who are. And then there are the ones who seem liberal at first but once you marry them and have kids they set up different standards and rules for you.
 
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