Isnt this simply AMAZING? Just facinating!

Espy said:
I think you totally missed GG's point Andrae, or rather perhaps read way more into it that what she intended. She drew a simple analogous parallel using your line of logic, but used a racist statement to illustrate a point. I got what she meant, and it was nowhere near what you're suggesting, nor was it offensive. You know GG better than that, she's not someone who goes around offending people.

As for your comment on gender roles, there will always be people who subscribe to them, but that doesn't mean that everyone buys into that shit. There are plenty of women who not only out earn men, but who don't care that they do. Are there gold-diggers in the world? Sure there are. But I think time and time again the women here have indicated that the majority of us aren't like that, don't care how much money you make, and don't expect or want a man to take care of us. As such, I wonder why it gets brought up so much here, obviously if we aren't like that then we aren't going to be able to offer anything productive on that subject. Seems to me you should be complaining to the women who are like that, rather than those of us who aren't. If all you encounter are shallow, gold-digging women then maybe you should relocate, seriously.
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I will never argue with you in public but wait till you bring that sexy ass home there will be hell to pay woman lol.

Sorry for thread derailment Kunoichi.
 
Espy said:
I think you totally missed GG's point Andrae, or rather perhaps read way more into it that what she intended. She drew a simple analogous parallel using your line of logic, but used a racist statement to illustrate a point. I got what she meant, and it was nowhere near what you're suggesting, nor was it offensive. You know GG better than that, she's not someone who goes around offending people.

As for your comment on gender roles, there will always be people who subscribe to them, but that doesn't mean that everyone buys into that shit. There are plenty of women who not only out earn men, but who don't care that they do. Are there gold-diggers in the world? Sure there are. But I think time and time again the women here have indicated that the majority of us aren't like that, don't care how much money you make, and don't expect or want a man to take care of us. As such, I wonder why it gets brought up so much here, obviously if we aren't like that then we aren't going to be able to offer anything productive on that subject. Seems to me you should be complaining to the women who are like that, rather than those of us who aren't. If all you encounter are shallow, gold-digging women then maybe you should relocate, seriously.
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I'm so glad you are back, and thanks for the vote of confidence that I wasn't trying to be offensive. :smt058 You got the point that I was trying to make, and the only reason that I used race was because I knew that was an analogy that could be understood. I was meaning mindset and not actions. A person who is racist or sexist today still thinks the same as a person that was a racist or sexist in the past. Their goal is to oppress people based on a physical characteristic. They may go about it differently today than they did in prior years, but their mentality is still the same.
 
I think that it is amazing how small we are in comparison to the universe. It's actually mind-blowing when you try to comprehend it all. Great pic, Kunoichi. It helps to put things in perspective.
 
i love it kuni...!!! could you give me the link...??? i'd love to send this to my kids teachers
 
Tony Soprano said:
Wow... Um... Back to the original subject at hand, that image is indeed very fascinating.:smt023

Now I really believe that there are many other lifeforms out there.
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I co sign this.. get back on topic!
This is very interresting and thank you Kuno for posting that.
I eat this stuff up!!!
 
whikle said:
It's never too late! I went to uni with a 56 year old woman!

It can be a very satisfying profession, for sure :)
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Teachers simply don't make enough money. If I stopped doing what I do now and went into teaching I'd take a 40k a year pay cut.
 
Espy said:
I apologize for getting your thread off track Kunoichi. Beautiful picture!
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Oh no problem, EVER. I never mind when topics sidetrack, it makes for passionate reading. Eventually it might return when someone comes along and just reads post #1 and comments. :D
 
andrae09 said:
There isn't enough money in it. A guy will have much harder time pulling a quality girl if he's only making 30k a year so it leaves very little incentive for guys. I think its a great profession for women though.
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Ymra said:
Teachers simply don't make enough money. If I stopped doing what I do now and went into teaching I'd take a 40k a year pay cut.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, American teachers are severely undervalued. I'm a 2nd year out teacher and I make twice that amount. By the time I've been teaching for 10 years it will be close to 3 times as much. But still, many more women than men are attracted to teaching in Australia. I don't think that's got anything to do with salary.
 
whikle said:
I've said it before and I'll say it again, American teachers are severely undervalued. I'm a 2nd year out teacher and I make twice that amount. By the time I've been teaching for 10 years it will be close to 3 times as much. But still, many more women than men are attracted to teaching in Australia. I don't think that's got anything to do with salary.
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What do you think it is then?
 
andrae09 said:
What do you think it is then?
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Well, I guess teaching is a nurturing profession. Like nursing etc, usually female dominated fields...

Plus teaching is also not esteemed highly, that ol' "if you can't do, teach" BS... So maybe partly an ego thing..
 
whikle said:
I've said it before and I'll say it again, American teachers are severely undervalued. I'm a 2nd year out teacher and I make twice that amount. By the time I've been teaching for 10 years it will be close to 3 times as much. But still, many more women than men are attracted to teaching in Australia. I don't think that's got anything to do with salary.
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That's nice. If you work in the right area you can get paid. Up North in Chicago, you can get paid six figures. Do that for a number of years, invest, then move on to less disenfranchised area...
 
FRESH said:
That's nice. If you work in the right area you can get paid. Up North in Chicago, you can get paid six figures. Do that for a number of years, invest, then move on to less disenfranchised area...
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What's special about Northern Chicago?
 
whikle said:
Well, I guess teaching is a nurturing profession. Like nursing etc, usually female dominated fields...

Plus teaching is also not esteemed highly, that ol' "if you can't do, teach" BS... So maybe partly an ego thing..
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That's also a possibility. I've always thought about teaching but not until I make my first million or if I lose my wife and my kids need me to be home.
 
FRESH said:
Long story short...a good amount of wealth in that area, maybe the recession put a damper on wages up there as well, but I'm sure they're still making good money.
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Kinda interesting that teachers get paid MORE to work in more privileged areas.......? Where's the incentive to work in at-risk areas?
 
whikle said:
Kinda interesting that teachers get paid MORE to work in more privileged areas.......? Where's the incentive to work in at-risk areas?
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Exactly...especially when teachers in hay area get treat like crap by the admin & students, teachers getting, mulled, murdered & raped, so sad.
 
FRESH said:
Exactly...especially when teachers in hay area get treat like crap by the admin & students, teachers getting, mulled, murdered & raped, so sad.
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Definitely sad. Sounds like a fundamentally flawed system. Where's that education overhaul?
 
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