MilkandCoffee
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with chemicals, yes.
Jesse Williams' BET Speech did you catch it?
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with chemicals, yes.
The Dark King
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TDK, you don't have a traditional Black experience because you're the son of Black immigrants.
You don't 'know' America like I and my family do.
This shit isn't theoretical to me.
My blood is from the South and we KNOW how color works in both the Black AND White community.
You talk that light skin privilege in Mississippi or Arkansas and you might get punched in the mouth...by another Black person.
I know too many light skinned aunts, cousins and friends of family who were told to 'fall back nigger' to actually believe they had some step up in life,(outside of the Black community) because they were light skinned negroes.
Your Black roots in this country are limited and based primarily on what you choose to embrace and BELIEVE IN.
You're not really deep into the traditional Black experience IMO because it's not your family experience, at least not on the same level.
You constantly rant about shit you have never experienced, or seen first hand.
Or have been told about by close friends and loved ones.
Do you have more than 10 blood family members in this country??
How the fuck you gonna tell me I don't know about the role color plays in the Black community and White culture in general??lol
What I do know is 'privileged' light skinned Blacks like Eartha Kitt and Harry Belafonte had their careers destroyed in the 1960s for speaking out against the Vietnam War and for Civil Rights, respectively.
A light skinned Black man named Muhammad Ali had the prime of his career taken away because he was a conscientious objector to the Vietnam War.
And another light skinned brotha by the name of Malcolm X was under surveillance by the FBI who may have played a role in his death.
I know that light skinned Blacks still had to peel potatoes and do menial tasks instead of actually fighting during WW2, that light skinned Blacks still were forced to go to segregated schools and light skinned brothas were still the ones sent to die on the front lines in Vietnam.
I know this because this is a part of my FAMILY experience.
Not some abstract shit I decided I wanted to be true.
I feel like you drop these odd off the wall theories from who knows where and pretend like it's status quo for EVERY Black person, because it's what you choose to believe.
And who the hell is talking about Hispanics and Asians??
Stick to the topic.
What industry in this country dominated by White decision makers is full of light skinned Black folk??
You're just wrong on this.
If Jesse Williams had a boost in his career from being light skinned, it was mostly because his producers either didn't know he was Black at first, or preferred to cast someone who wasn't obviously Black.
It wasn't a choice for a role that he won over a Black actor because he was lighter.
In fact Jesse Williams' career has been hindered by his biracial background because he's not really Black OR White enough for some directors.
The brotha is stuck on TV and can't get choice movie roles.
But he's so light skinned:lol:.......GTFOH.
BTW check who you're calling ignorant.
You're subtle ad hominem attacks aren't so subtle and show just how petty you really are.
Lol did you just pull the I'm not black enough to have an opinion bs. For one your experience is not the only fucking experience there is, again there is plenty of literature on colorism and you show how incredibly ignorant and misinformed you are by not doing a simple ass google search. And in his own damn words, his own reflection on his experience Jessie Williams acknowledges how being a light skin black man has helped his career but hey you obviously live his life for him so you know better.
One more time for the slow kids, I never said that being light skin freed you from any of the oppression that all blacks felt but there are levels to this shit. Yes it was hard for all black people to find employment but certain jobs where a person has to be visible and seen by the public its more likely for a lighter skin person to get a damn job.
And news flash Mississippi and Alabama are prime fucking examples of states where people who could pass would again whole publications on this shit but hey keep playing ignorant it suites you.
The Dark King
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Shots fired huh bitch lol
You never been to Alabama and you say what?
The Dark King
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so reading what other people who do live there say doesn't count?
Lol
U were trying to say Vanessa Williams could pass. You disqualified yourself.
Lol
On the real you are just a tad all worked up
You may want to stay in your lane
andreboba
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You're still seeing this color preference thing through the eyes of a Black person.
White people don't look at Black folk the way other Black folk do.
It's rare you'll find a White business owner make a decision on hiring two equally qualified Black candidates based on skin tone.
Only Black people are deep into that shit.
You ever heard the expression from Whites that, "all Black people look the same??"
Because in the minds of many of them, we might as well ALL be the same.
They aren't really spending all this time segregating us based on skin tone.
But Black folk??? We live for that shit.
You're just overlapping and mixing so much shit up.
How many Black people do you think honestly were passing down South??lol
Outside of someplace like southern Louisiana???
This is another example of the BS you spout cause you "read it in a book.""
It was such a rare instance and to use that as example of light skin privilege is moronic.
99% of light skinned Black folk did NOT pass, because they couldn't.
Again, most of this shit is abstract and academic to you.
There's a part of the history of Black American culture you're missing, for obvious reasons.
Just know that sometimes you say stuff about race, class and sociopolitics that sounds plain nutty, because it lacks any practical reality.
Beasty
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Says the guy that constantly whines like one. Your projections are A1 classic.
Keep them comming!
Beasty
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He's too much of a chicken to roll through North Carolina let alone Alabama. Even tho most black people live in the South.
Then has the nerve to call someone else a bitch.
The Dark King
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Says the guy that constantly whines like one. Your projections are A1 classic.
Keep them comming!
So basically not blindly agreeing with you is whining ok got it lol
The Dark King
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You're still seeing this color preference thing through the eyes of a Black person.
White people don't look at Black folk the way other Black folk do.
It's rare you'll find a White business owner make a decision on hiring two equally qualified Black candidates based on skin tone.
Only Black people are deep into that shit.
You ever heard the expression from Whites that, "all Black people look the same??"
Because in the minds of many of them, we might as well ALL be the same.
They aren't really spending all this time segregating us based on skin tone.
But Black folk??? We live for that shit.
You're just overlapping and mixing so much shit up.
How many Black people do you think honestly were passing down South??lol
Outside of someplace like southern Louisiana???
This is another example of the BS you spout cause you "read it in a book.""
It was such a rare instance and to use that as example of light skin privilege is moronic.
99% of light skinned Black folk did NOT pass, because they couldn't.
Again, most of this shit is abstract and academic to you.
There's a part of the history of Black American culture you're missing, for obvious reasons.
Just know that sometimes you say stuff about race, class and sociopolitics that sounds plain nutty, because it lacks any practical reality.
According to you. So its nutty and has no practical reality because you don't agree. So tell me how long were you white?
Beasty
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Beasty
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Since you want to base everything on what you read, how about reading the dictionary. How is that blindly agreeing?? :lol:
andreboba
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You can't learn Blackness from a book.
Keep trying though.
You say a lot of shit as if it were fact because it was written down somewhere, and the fact is much of what you're saying are generalizations and mostly just plain wrong.
You dropped some nonsense like light skinned privilege and failed to provide any real examples of it.
Quit while you're behind.
The Dark King
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What whine? I disagree with you that's it. Stop making it more. You know what we can just agree to disagree no one's position is moving on this.
The Dark King
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You can't learn Blackness from a book.
Keep trying though.
You say a lot of shit as if it were fact because it was written down somewhere, and the fact is much of what you're saying are generalizations and mostly just plain wrong.
You dropped some nonsense like light skinned privilege and failed to provide any real examples of it.
Quit while you're behind.
Ok everything you are saying right now can simply be said when a white person or any non black person hears our struggles. Simply dismissing them doesn't make it untrue even if you yourself don't have to experience it.
And negro go fuck yourself with that learning "blackness" from a book bullshit. As if I don't have the same obstacles and struggles as yourself. Because I don't agree with your skewed perceptions I am all of sudden less black?
I provided real examples of light skinned privilege but you don't agree so they don't exist to you period the end.
Beasty
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Yep. I can't agree with someone who makes his own definitions. You have your own language now? Where do they speak that at?
Well its cool he is reading a book. Most fools would run away from one. On top of that most fools wouldn't watch a documentary about black history
I want to know wheres iRicardo and flame and the other dude who cosigned it saying its llogical.
They always kicking hatemongering crap in the forum that mostly goes unchecked.
Have Ricardo come back and backed his statement. Nope. Why?
He's a troll.
I want to know wheres iRicardo and flame and the other dude who cosigned it saying its llogical.
They always kicking hatemongering crap in the forum that mostly goes unchecked.
Have Ricardo come back and backed his statement. Nope. Why?
He's a troll.
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In any case going back to appropriations I'm kinda with the person who said its about using other people stuff and not knowing about, appreciating and not giving credit.
I think the people who went off on jt was being way over sensitive but I can see their point when it came to the Janet Jackson situation
I think the people who went off on jt was being way over sensitive but I can see their point when it came to the Janet Jackson situation
Ol'Skool Classic
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Timberlake caught the backlash that he did for essentially being willfully ignorant to the fact he has benefited from black culture. Not only benefited but been embraced by black people.
Had he not responded in the somewhat condescending way that he did (or better yet not at all) to the person who called him out on the Janet Jackson SB scandal he would have been good. But he had to be the typical patronizing white person with his "You poor soul/We are all the same" response that came off sounding a little too much on the "All Lives Matter" end.