Larry Elder

no problem man, some dont like larry and some dont like kanye, its no big deal

 

Im not upset at you, yet again, but you were throwing around accusations that were not on point and i had to say something. I did not call Larry Elder; i was saying that people call him that. You can go back to the original thread and read it. Calling Kanye a jungle whatever is really silly and hypocritical because those are slurs made up by white supremacists do refer to black people and here you are throwing it around. Its just as bad as calling some the "n-word". Refrain from using it, Tuck.

**Gives a round of applause**

 

when people refrain from calling larry elder or any black man an uncle tom, i will refrain. uncle tom is an insult, used to try and demean a black man who doesnt agree with the crowd. i didnt say you said uncle tom, i said the original post said that.

so if all refrain from using slurs and insults then it would be cool, but when people use it it is hypocritical to tell others not to

west is a bunny just as much as elder is a tom, or NOT

 

He doesn't 'toe the black line' because of how we feels about blacks in general, which you have already written in your above statement. WTF is a black line anyway?

1. Kanye West isn't a politician. 2. Freedom of speech. 3. Since when did Bush start caring about black people? Also, people like you seem to take everything a (young) black male says out of context, by confusing the terms 'doesn't care about' with 'hates.'

I have a hard time believing that disliking Bush makes someone 'steppin fetchit' but defending ultra-conversatives like Bush who could care less about blacks sure does.

 

Yes.

 

Yeah, it is. They told you that already.

Are you having a hard time comprehending what has been said to you throughout this thread? Just because someone calls Larry Elder an Uncle Tom doesn't mean that you have to defend him and start bringing remarks made by Kanye West and his opinions about Bush in order to ONLY insult him for NO REASON, and then, trying to tell OTHER people what to do based on your hurt feelings just because you don't like their opinions about a public figure, which is even more childish than you claim their name-calling about Elder to be. Cris has already put it all into enough perspective for you to understand it, as jxsilicon also did.

 

Sardonic, you're Solomon's brother from another mother.

 

you defend jungle west and I will defend mr elder. they are both black men. one just speaks for you and one speaks for me.

a post started attacking mr elder in the begining, not Ladeezman, just a post did. and I am defending mr elder as a black man of honor, and in the context of the first post saying that that west fellow is the uncle tom selling out the black people by attacking President Bush, who has never not cared for black people. he cares a great deal

thats all i have to say. but i like the rousing debate and i think Cris can speak for himself without the need of interpretor and I understood his english quite clearly and disagreed quite vehmently, thats what the forum is for. thats mates

 

If he didn't need an interpretor, then you should've acted like you interpreted it from the start, and you can defend Elder all you want in here, but it won't change a thing, and since you somehow know how Bush feels about black people based on only how you feel about him, well, that speaks for itself.

Good example you're setting on the site, by the way.

 

Why is everyone so shy about calling out Tucker for the self loathing, Uncle Tom that he is? Suckers like him chase White women for all the wrong reasons.

An artist like Kanye, who soley raps about positivity and Faith will always be nothing more than a mere ni-gg-er in the eyes of Mr Tucker. Why not educate yourself about the man's art before you open your ignorant mouth? I know that seems like a daunting task and that sentiment is shared by the Whites who clutch their purses as they walk by you.

 

I do have to agree with Shaun, I have notice there are 2 types of black men that date/marry white women:

One that only date out of self-hatred of their own race and obsessed with having a white woman.

The other don't really care what other people think when he dates a white woman but also dates black, Asian, Indian women and not obsessed with having a white woman.

 

Actually quite the opposite, if you are a true white conservative you would not even think of dating someone of color.

Only moderate or liberal would entertain the idea of mingling with a black man.

So those brothers waiting for Ann Coulter to give them a call . . . keep waiting.

 

You are hitting on some points here the more and more I read the posts I can really see whats going on.

 

Let it be known that both conservatives and liberals can be just as racist, but not in the same manner, no matter how you feel about either political party. Also, some black men and white women just prefer one another, and don't necessarily have a racist agenda against their own human race of people. Though that is not always the case, every now and then, it is, like with most of the current posters in this site to date (in my opinion).

 

call me out, one can hate on Elder and thats ok, but if I say something about a rapper I am all of a sudden an Uncle Tom? please explain this.

and also, what are the wrong reason I date WW please explain, since you know me so well. and dont talk around me, tell me to my face

 

i dont like kanye west anymore than some people dont like other artiists, so what is ignorant about that?? i have listened to his stuff, entire albums, and nothing he has rapped about carries any weight with me, anymore than his lunatic crack about the president

 

Amen. Its just that the extreme conservatives practise their bigotry more overtly.

 

The implications of my post were quite clear. You go out of your way to defend a not so covert racist like Bill Bennet, but of course, Kanye West is a jungle bunny..

Yes, we all can discern context, but you don't make that kind of analagy if you're Bill Bennet. Aborting Black babies? An analagy such as this is an underlying indicator of the man's thought process.

You have a right to dislike West's music, but your assessment of the man as a Jungle Bunny should be based on the content of his art, not personal taste.

He can't be a jungle bunny based on the content of his music because it's overwhelmingly positive. Do you see a pattern developing here? I surely do. Defending White supremacy and negatively prejudging your own is blasphemy for a Black man.

You sound absolutely no different than the White supremecists I encounter on Aryan Nation websites.

 

i was defending another black man, Larry Elder, actually. but I support Bill Bennett and believe he is not racist as I do believe Kanye west is. that is my view, without calling you names, for having your own opinions
but i can see you cant help yourself but insult me for having a different view

 

being a black man , i can criticize a black man just as you call me and other black men Uncle Toms, no different than white supremacists on aryan sites, which i dont visit