Bliss
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Porn for the win!!
Fat chicks do get a lot of play in porno flicks. Fat dudes, not so much.
A fat chick can still be sexy IMO. A fat dude doesn't have the same aesthetics as a chunky woman.
Two words: Ron Jeremy. :lol:
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Two words: Ron Jeremy. :lol:
The Dark King
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Look back in the 80s you might be right. I seriously couldn't tell you since I was in grade school during those years but when I spend time with the younger kids in my family it seems like everyone is under that pressure. Even when I was high school the whole idea of having a six pack wasn't a thing yet but being on a team and having muscles was and not only that the more stuff you had ie nice clothes, nice car, expensive gadgets the cooler you were. What kind of car you had as a girl had no bearing on what kind of guy you got. Granted it would probably put more pressure for you to be thinner since you didn't have a go to like material wealth that men have but riddle me this. Is it easier for a young person without parental help to acquire monetary goods and stay in decent shape or for them just to keep in shape?
I'm not saying men have it harder physically but all around men do.
My biggest go to example of this is short women don't even like short guys but short men will go for short women. Fat women don't even like fat men (this one always cracks me up since the excuse is "how would that look") but fat men will go for fat women, broke women aren't usually attracted to broke men but that usually has no bearing on whether a man will go for a woman or not. Bottom line is all things being equal women have a better chance of finding a mate.
APPIAH
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You want to compare one fat man to the tons of fat women in porn ? There is no equality there and thank gawd for that.
The Dark King
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TDK and Iggy, were both of you made fun of at a younger age because of your physique??
Too fat?? Too skinny???
For some reason it sounds like you have a very skewed perspective of the male/female social dynamic.
I attend a private health club and the only time it's crowded is in the mornings before 9 AM and after 5 PM. The rest of the time especially on the weekends its crickets. And here's the thing, when there is a good crowd, it's 70-75% WOMEN. They are the majority of the cardio classes and the ones on the cardio equipment like the elliptical machines, etc.
Most young guys come in with their boyz, maybe bench a little, do some dumbbell curls, play a couple runs of b-ball and jet.
Half the U.S. population is overweight. More young people today including 20 somethings are fatter than they ever were before. We didn't have this obesity epidemic in the 1980s.
One of the funny things I've heard original hip hop heads from the 1980s remark about is how there are sooooo many chubby/fat MCs in the rap game nowadays. Like a lot.
With the growing popularity in video games the last two decades, there are IMO more fat young men than ever before.
But there's no point in arguing this.
You and Iggy will never agree that women face more pressure to stay fit and phine for most of their adult lives than a man does.
How many men have their wives divorce them because they got too fat??
This is a real fear for some women.
My last example before I bow out.
Alec Baldwin looked like this in the late 1980s-early 1992.
This is what Alec Baldwin has looked like for the most part of the last decade.
He's a bigger star now than when he was lean and fit and a 'sex symbol'.
Kirstie Alley in the 1980s.
She recently lost a huge amount of weight, but her H'wood career is over. It started to end as she got heavier.
John Travolta is another actor who became literally a bigger star the fatter he got, even though he used to look like this,
Instead of this.
A fat man has a much easier path in life than his female counterpart.
Did you really just choose entertainment as an example? The entire industry is built on the superficial. I'll bottom line this since it's late and I don't feel like breaking it down for you. As far as entertaining the masses women are not captivating on screen if they aren't sexually appealing. Men are commonly known for doing action, comedy, and drama which gives them more avenues to work in.
In action you have to be in shape so the same pressures are on men if not more so since you can literally starve yourself and be thin but you have to work your ass off to get muscle. And outside of a few select women they can't carry an action film the way men can. Its not as entertaining and when they do they need men adversaries to sell the authenticity of them being bad ass.
In comedy women aren't as funny as men at least not to men. I know a lot of women think Rosie was funny but unfortunately men don't. And its not sexist because even racist can find black people funny but unfortunately most times female humor doesn't translate to men but the other way around works well which is why a fat man can get work. Its not like Travolta and Baldwin are still sex symbols they're comedy characters most time they work.
Drama is pretty even.
Sin Mari
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Although Ron Jeremy is an extreme (and fat) example, there are MANY ugly ass men in porn. Which is unfortunate, to say the least. Because there are plenty of women (myself included) who like porn (and not that waste of space "female friendly" shit they make...geezuz, that stuff is crap).
pettyofficerj
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yeah u can tell that the majority of porn is geared towards men
most of them dudes in porn got ugly ass mugs
Sin Mari
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True. It's a shame.
pettyofficerj
New Member
they know we dont watch to look at other men, and just need to focus on the women
having that ugly ass man there helps us focus
GFunk
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Shit, as long as the woman is the focus of the show, I don't give a shit about having to look at the dude's face(until the camera zooms in on his face for 12 seconds while he gets his "o" face on, man that shit is annoying and I just stop watching after that).
pettyofficerj
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that shit is silly son
i guess it makes funny lookin dudes more happy about themselves....seeing another one bang a hot chick and all
The Dark King
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You think dudes actually take stock of that? lol
You gotta love wwbm, how quickly did this go from concern about women's body image issues, to who suffers worst men or women, to straight up porn lol
Sin Mari
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I'm sure that's the reasoning behind it, actually. I think Ron Jeremy said something similar to that about him being so successful in porn.
But still...it would be nice to have more good looking guys in porn. I don't mind if they're not the focus (actually I'd prefer they weren't), but just so I didn't have to look at some saggy, hairy, gross, looking guy while he's naked and fucking. Ewww.. LOL Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, it's mostly the white dudes that are fugly as cats asshole. I can only think of a few black guys, who I've seen, in porn that were "unwatchable". Although, not all of them are fantastic looking. LOL
I remember watching a scene in a movie where there were three white guys and a woman, and of the three only one guy was watchable, the other two looked like biker rejects. Yick. I couldn't get into that. I kept thinking that the woman in the scene must have been drugged to have been able to fuck those guys. Hahahaha!
Ok, now I'm just talking/typing for the sake of it. I'm tired. I should be in bed. Shit, shut up bitch and fuck the hell off to bed. Ok..enough. I'm not really crazy.
andreboba
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So....women in movies are only 'appealing' as eye candy and women aren't funny.
Don't agree about the funny part, but saying that most women actors have little value in a film if they aren't physically attractive is the POINT.
A man can still have a career being a fat ass like Baldwin and Travolta.
If Angelina Jolie gained 40# her career would be done.
If Brad Pitt gained 40#, it would be an evolution in his character role development.:lol:
THe only overweight woman I know of who's been given major roles and had box office success is Kathy Bates.
This is going in circles, maybe it's the whole rise of metro-sexualism in the younger demographic where men today feel 'pressure' to be 'pretty', but the reality still remains that women are pressured more to be at an ideal weight AND be beautiful by society at large.
The Dark King
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Charlize Theron gained weight for monster and won an Oscar so...
I never said no woman is funny but most aren't at least not to men. Not as far as I've seen but you're right we're going in circles.
I never said no woman is funny but most aren't at least not to men. Not as far as I've seen but you're right we're going in circles.
BAM! Fuckin OWNED.
True that. Sexiness isn't just a body type - it's an attitude.