Maxwell Hits Back At Racist Fans!

Call me a contrarian but he comes off looking like an idiot. he wifed and defends a white groupie and craps on the ppl who actually supports him. he comes off like a sellout.
 
TERRASTAR18 said:
Call me a contrarian but he comes off looking like an idiot. he wifed and defends a white groupie and craps on the ppl who actually supports him. he comes off like a sellout.
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I'm not saying it's smart business, but I still don't see why anyone would care. I don't think that getting married to someone you love and defending that choice constitutes 'crapping' on your fans. I have never ever been concerned about who my favorite songstress sleeps with, nor entertained any childish fantasy that she would somehow notice me after the show and bring me back to her hotel. Otherwise, I would be known as Mr. Sade Adu. LOL
 
orejon4 said:
I'm not saying it's smart business, but I still don't see why anyone would care. I don't think that getting married to someone you love and defending that choice constitutes 'crapping' on your fans. I have never ever been concerned about who my favorite songstress sleeps with, nor entertained any childish fantasy that she would somehow notice me after the show and bring me back to her hotel. Otherwise, I would be known as Mr. Sade Adu. LOL
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i agree but at the same time with his type of music it comes off as inauthentic.
 
orejon4 said:
LOL - I would agree if he was singing this:
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I remember that one. Tyrone Green. It was so funny. But, Eddie Murphy was originally not a major cast member of SNL until after a few sketches. He introduced the audiences to characters like Gumby, the pimp Velvet Jones, Mr. Robinson's Neighborhood(a parody of Mr. Rogers), Tyrone Green, Jesse Jackson, Stevie Wonder, James Brown and Buckwheat. He was given a free hand in his contributions to SNL. He and fellow SNL cast member Joe Piscapo had recorded a song called The Honeymooners Rap(Joe was Ralph Kramden and Eddie was Ed Norton).
 
Gorath said:
I remember that one. Tyrone Green. It was so funny. But, Eddie Murphy was originally not a major cast member of SNL until after a few sketches. He introduced the audiences to characters like Gumby, the pimp Velvet Jones, Mr. Robinson's Neighborhood(a parody of Mr. Rogers), Tyrone Green, Jesse Jackson, Stevie Wonder, James Brown and Buckwheat. He was given a free hand in his contributions to SNL. He and fellow SNL cast member Joe Piscapo had recorded a song called The Honeymooners Rap(Joe was Ralph Kramden and Eddie was Ed Norton).
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Gorath, if you go back this far, you must be around my age. :cool:
 
It's spooky what has happened to black women over the years. And I'm not exaggerating when I say "spooky". It's eerie.

They have such possessiveness over black men on the one hand, and such enmity on the other.

On the one hand, they're ready to condemn black men who date out.

On the other, it's almost as if they've launched a conscious, concerted effort to drive black men away.
 
Tamstrong said:
I always thought this was hilarious! :smt023

I need to break out my Best of Eddie Murphy SNL tape and watch it again. LOL
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You probably remember Tyrone Green's poetry. Cill My Landlord, Cill My Landlord. C.I.L.L. My Landlord.

Or, I Hates White People 'Cuz They's White.

Or James Brown's Hot Tub Show. Little Richard Simmons' Show. Mr. T and many others. Eddie was at his comedic peak back then.

And the death of Buckwheat. Classic. Arsenio Hall had a part in which he was a member of Buckwheat's entourage. And Mary Gross's portrayal of Alfalfa was spot on.
 
TERRASTAR18 said:
not what i meant at all....the issue is you sing to/about a certain group but don't want to associate with them. it's phoney. no one took issue with his friends as much as the hypocrisy of it.
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I think it is all about where one starts out. Perhaps Maxwell got his start in a black club. As a performer, his job is to entertain and create a fantasy. He is no different to most Hollywood actors from the past. Actor Erroll Flynn was often seen as the romantic action star, a secret lover for women and a brave man for men to emulate. The Righteous Brothers got their start singing in black clubs.They were called The Paramours in the beginning. After a show a guy working backstage said to them,"That was righteous, brothers." That became their name from then on. Being a performer(actor, singer, musician, preacher, etc) is about the audience. It is intimate social intercourse. And if that performer does well, the rewards are beneficial. However, that audience jealously guards the performer and claims them for their own and they do not want to see that performer go anywhere else. The performer belongs to their audience. Until the performer changes their career or format, this is what they have to deal with.
 
TERRASTAR18 said:
not what i meant at all....the issue is you sing to/about a certain group but don't want to associate with them. it's phoney. no one took issue with his friends as much as the hypocrisy of it.
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Gorath said:
I think it is all about where one starts out. Perhaps Maxwell got his start in a black club. As a performer, his job is to entertain and create a fantasy. He is no different to most Hollywood actors from the past. Actor Erroll Flynn was often seen as the romantic action star, a secret lover for women and a brave man for men to emulate. The Righteous Brothers got their start singing in black clubs.They were called The Paramours in the beginning. After a show a guy working backstage said to them,"That was righteous, brothers." That became their name from then on. Being a performer(actor, singer, musician, preacher, etc) is about the audience. It is intimate social intercourse. And if that performer does well, the rewards are beneficial. However, that audience jealously guards the performer and claims them for their own and they do not want to see that performer go anywhere else. The performer belongs to their audience. Until the performer changes their career or format, this is what they have to deal with.
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Got it. I didn't think Maxwell sang about black women in particular in his music. I just knew he was marketed as 'neo-soul', which is aimed at a very particular slice of the music-listening audience. Plus, maybe because he's marketed as a sex symbol more than a musician a la Charles Mingus, he is more vulnerable to this charge. I still think it's bogus, but I see your point.
 
The Dark King said:
Does loving black women mean you can't date white women?
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I'll take it a step further....was his music ever race-specific in terms of lyrics? I mean was every other song of his filled with words like "my black queen" or "her mahogany skin"? If not how is he being inauthentic as some dude suggested earlier? Obviously his music is R&B and therefore will be directed towards a black audience (women) by the studio he works under. They will therefore make videos in which most if not all of the women that appear are black as well. This is not under Maxwell's control, not when he started off at least. But that didn't mean he only meant his music to be enjoyed by black audiences.
 
JamalSpunky said:
I'll take it a step further....was his music ever race-specific in terms of lyrics? I mean was every other song of his filled with words like "my black queen" or "her mahogany skin"? If not how is he being inauthentic as some dude suggested earlier? Obviously his music is R&B and therefore will be directed towards a black audience (women) by the studio he works under. They will therefore make videos in which most if not all of the women that appear are black as well. This is not under Maxwell's control, not when he started off at least. But that didn't mean he only meant his music to be enjoyed by black audiences.
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So well said. I love Maxwell's music - who doesn't, really? I didn't know he wasn't allowed to sing for, or be enjoyed by, women of a different race than him. It's all so ludicrous. God help any white man who liked his music, I suppose. Or Asian women, or Asian men...like I said, ludicrous.
 
JamalSpunky said:
I'll take it a step further....was his music ever race-specific in terms of lyrics? I mean was every other song of his filled with words like "my black queen" or "her mahogany skin"? If not how is he being inauthentic as some dude suggested earlier? Obviously his music is R&B and therefore will be directed towards a black audience (women) by the studio he works under. They will therefore make videos in which most if not all of the women that appear are black as well. This is not under Maxwell's control, not when he started off at least. But that didn't mean he only meant his music to be enjoyed by black audiences.
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I think I remember one of his vids way back when on bet (remember bet?) where's he's on the floor crawling toward a black woman...?

maybe stuff like that makes him appeal to black women more. Also lyrics like "if ever a thing that you need... for you and your blood i will bleed" But anyway, when you're trying to make your career as an artist, you're going to pander...

Remember Erykah badu with her high wrapped hair and 3/4 lengths of cloth, before she started mooning kids? :mrgreen:
 
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