Next Week Heroes will explain how they "killed" D.

JamalSpunky said:
LaydeezmanCris said:
Howiedoit said:
LaydeezmanCris said:
I've said this a thousand times, but i still fail to comprehend why you guys are dying to see a "prominent" interracial pairing on television. You know it isn't going to happen, yet keep hoping.
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Most of the members on this site know this, yet why do producers of these shows tease audiences with interracial pairings only to have a break up or have something tragic happens to them.

People who are in interracial relationships (including members on this site) should feel insulted.
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That's exactly my point. If you don't want to get insulted, how about not tuning in for starters?
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Its one thing if you're talking about an individual show or even one network (like a cable network). But that's a somewhat ridiculous comment if your suggestion is to avoid all Tv altogether in order to not be insulted.

Should Christians not have a voice if they feel Hollywood shows are insulting their way of life? Should gay people not have any oportunities to see characters like themselves? Should Arabic people just try to ignore TV because it depicts them only as one dimensional terrorists? Or should these groups hope, anticpate or demand better?

By your logic people should simply accept "defeat" when TV does not present characters who don't insult them or shows that do not have any characters like them. These folks should flee to the safety of an unplugged TV set rather than expect more diversity and representation from their television sets. That would be like Brazil, a country with a majority black population but almost zero black characters on TV. When the rare black person complains about this he is denounced as being racist and is told to accept the situation. Fortunately America isn't Brazil and is much more diverse in its casting. Still American TV has a long way to go before its as diverse as its actual population (racially, religiously, sexual orientation, politically, etc). And there's nothing wrong with being positive about the prospects of seeing the type of people or couples that mirror who you are.

With that being said I have stopped watching soaps the past year because it did get too insulting. Yet I ahve written letters to network execustives about daytime over the eyars to complain about this. I still tune in from time to time thinking thatt it will change in that genre one day.
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You're misconstruing my point. I am not insinuating that all television should be avoided altogether in order not to be offended; i was talking about expecting to see interracial couples. Of course, every segment of the population loves to see something they can relate to but when you don't, sometimes you have to just let it go. You know fully well that Hollywood, owned and run by white men, will never put a (hot) white woman with a black man yet get disappointed time and time again. That's the point i'm getting at. Im sure you're familiar with the quote, "Foolishness is doing the same thing over again expecting different results". That's the general idea here.
 
Like I said before. Look for the UK TV shows. For example I saw a interracial fling on MI-5 last week. You never see anything like that on a US show.
 
Soulthinker said:
Like I said before. Look for the UK TV shows. For example I saw a interracial fling on MI-5 last week. You never see anything like that on a US show.
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Hey Soul, do you live in the United Kingdom?
 
Soulthinker said:
Like I said before. Look for the UK TV shows. For example I saw a interracial fling on MI-5 last week. You never see anything like that on a US show.
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There have been a bunch of interracial flings (and more) on American primetime TV these past fifteen years. Maybe not enough but still a lot more than what you people are crediting. And I don't want to have to go write down a whole list of examples just to point out that American primetime TV should get credit for what daytime TV and movies essentially won't touch : black men and white women pairings. But I will point to a failed series like "Birds of Prey" in which the main female lead (who was white) was in an emerging relationship with the one male lead of the show (who happened to be black). The show lasted only 13 episodes and by that time the two of them were sharing steamy kisses and about to take their relationship to another level. Sure, British TV (when it decides to include black characters in the first place) tend to be more bold overall in interrracial hookups, but lets not act as if American TV never travels down that road.
 
JamalSpunky said:
Soulthinker said:
Like I said before. Look for the UK TV shows. For example I saw a interracial fling on MI-5 last week. You never see anything like that on a US show.
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There have been a bunch of interracial flings (and more) on American primetime TV these past fifteen years. Maybe not enough but still a lot more than what you people are crediting. And I don't want to have to go write down a whole list of examples just to point out that American primetime TV should get credit for what daytime TV and movies essentially won't touch : black men and white women pairings. But I will point to a failed series like "Birds of Prey" in which the main female lead (who was white) was in an emerging relationship with the one male lead of the show (who happened to be black). The show lasted only 13 episodes and by that time the two of them were sharing steamy kisses and about to take their relationship to another level. Sure, British TV (when it decides to include black characters in the first place) tend to be more bold overall in interrracial hookups, but lets not act as if American TV never travels down that road.
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JamalSpunky said:
Soulthinker said:
Like I said before. Look for the UK TV shows. For example I saw a interracial fling on MI-5 last week. You never see anything like that on a US show.
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There have been a bunch of interracial flings (and more) on American primetime TV these past fifteen years. Maybe not enough but still a lot more than what you people are crediting. And I don't want to have to go write down a whole list of examples just to point out that American primetime TV should get credit for what daytime TV and movies essentially won't touch : black men and white women pairings. But I will point to a failed series like "Birds of Prey" in which the main female lead (who was white) was in an emerging relationship with the one male lead of the show (who happened to be black). The show lasted only 13 episodes and by that time the two of them were sharing steamy kisses and about to take their relationship to another level. Sure, British TV (when it decides to include black characters in the first place) tend to be more bold overall in interrracial hookups, but lets not act as if American TV never travels down that road.
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I remember that show. It was Ashley Scott and Shemar Moore. She played the daughter of Batman and Catwoman I believe. She inherited the powers of the two and faught crime by night. Dina Meyers was a co-star. Her character was in a wheelchair. I couldn't help but think at the time that it was a wasted opportunity for a show. It was well written and the two main characters had chemistry. But alast, for some reason, Americans don't seem to like superhero TV shows for long periods of time. I'm surprised Smallville has lasted 7 years so far.

But you're right, Jamal. Give primetime TV credit. Every now and then, they will go down the IR-bm/ww path. It's just usually the show doesn't capture a large enough audience.

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Three reasons why "Birds of Prey" failed as a tv show:

1. The writing was bad.

2. No Batman or Catwoman as regulars

3. It was on the WB.
 
Howiedoit said:
Three reasons why "Birds of Prey" failed as a tv show:

1. The writing was bad.
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That's subjective. She was ultimately going to be a crimefighter who waged her battles by night. All the reason for Shemar's character as a Detective who not only solved major crimes, but sought out this presumed "vigilante" who took the law into her own hands - just like her parents. Also a great idea to have a 'sidekick' who helped her with weapons, logistical research, etc. like Dina Meyers' character. The writing was going to have to be condusive to the spirit of a comic book crimefighter.

2. No Batman or Catwoman as regulars.
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The story wasn't supposed to be about them anyway. It was always about Huntress' willingness to use her powers in memory of them to continue fighting crime in post-Batman Gotham City. Sure, the network could have presented an opportunity for a "family reunion" between the three, but that idea is always poorly written and generally unnecessary to the storyline.

3. It was on the WB.
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We as consumers/TV watchers must only blame ourselves for the failures of alternative networks and their programs. UPN was started with the flagship show "Star Trek:Voyager" and was presented as a viable alternative to the big three, suggesting core programs to an underserved audience. A few years later and failure to expand market share, the network goes belly up and merges with the WB which never really turned much of a profit itself. Certainly business factors into it, but the consumers are the ones who ultimately decide long term stability in these companies through their programming. We as consumers need to do a better job of informing Hollywood what we want, even if that town is still mired in its own prejudices. Just look at CBS. A few years back, it was running 3rd barely and people would only give it a few looks. Now, a few comedys and a #1 drama later, it can't go wrong. All because of viewership of the smart programming consumers wanted to see.
 
Birds was an uneven show. There were some stinkers to be sure, but it really was showing improvement. TV Guide was even planning on giving it multiple covers (planned months in advance before the ratings were known) but when it learned of the rumors that WB would pull the show it ditched this plan. You would think the WB would have loved to have given the show another try considering the free publicity TV Guide was planning on giving it but the network head exec, in a move that had some insiders scrathing their heads at the time, seemed eager to pull the show quick. Hmmm?

Anyway as a result of their working together Shemar and Ashley ended up dating for a short time.

If this thread stays open for awhile longer I will post primetime TV shows in which there was a pairing/relationship between a white female character and a black male character. Right now I will focus on broadcast TV and therefore exclude cable programming (may come up with a cable list later). Here's the first shows that come to mind (note: some of the pairings were halfhearted or a bit brief but the point is the relationships existed):

LA Law (Blair Underwood and the blonde babe lawyer in the later years of the show)

Ally McBeal (Ally was involved with a black doctor)

ER ( a relatinship ruined by Eric LaSalle's ridiculous objections)

Angel

Buffy

Commander In Chief (black guy involved with the blonde from the "Species" movie series)

DC (short lived WB show i which two of the four main politically oriented characters was a black man and a blonde (the woman from Terminator 3) were in a relationship

The Days and Nights of Molly Dodd (again the title/lead character was involved with a black detective who eventually conceived a child with her).

Chicago Hope

The New Adventures of Old Christine
 
I forgot "LAX" which had a short life on NBC (about 13 episodes).

It starred Heather Locklear and Blair Underwood as two people who ran the the LA airport all the while fighting their attarction to each other. The two had a "history' --- I believe Blair's character cheated on his wife with Heather's character. It was clear, that if the show had lasted, the two would have ended up together. Each was ultimately crazy about the other.

Frankly I was surprised that someone had greenlighted a show with such a pairing. It was a major step forward.
 
JamalSpunky said:
I forgot "LAX" which had a short life on NBC (about 13 episodes).
Frankly I was surprised that someone had greenlighted a show with such a pairing. It was a major step forward.
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I couldn't agree more. Unfortunately, I never saw any episodes of the show.
 
JamalSpunky said:
I forgot "LAX" which had a short life on NBC (about 13 episodes).

It starred Heather Locklear and Blair Underwood as two people who ran the the LA airport all the while fighting their attarction to each other. The two had a "history' --- I believe Blair's character cheated on his wife with Heather's character. It was clear, that if the show had lasted, the two would have ended up together. Each was ultimately crazy about the other.

Frankly I was surprised that someone had greenlighted a show with such a pairing. It was a major step forward.
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I keep hearing though that on the final episode blair & heather's characters had a hot and heavy semi-x rated love romp but they never aired again when some cable channel was running re-runs of it for a while.

Anybody on here seen it?
 
nobledruali said:
:x ALL I KNOW IS IF THEY DO KILL HIM OFF THEN I'M NOT WATCHING IT ANYMORE...PERIOD~!!! :evil:
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Well I lied :roll: because I'm still watching it but so far it's not as good as last season anyway but especially now if DL is really killed off for good :!: :x
 
My first thought was that they killed his character off because white guys didn't want to see a black man hooked up with a white woman with a biracial kid.

Now, I see that the cop on the show "Heroes" is also separated from his wife and killing off main characters is normal on this show.

Though it is troubling to see the mother just dropping off her kid to live with the black man's relatives which strikes me as moving on with her life without the kid getting in the way.
 
Howiedoit said:
Though it is troubling to see the mother just dropping off her kid to live with the black man's relatives which strikes me as moving on with her life without the kid getting in the way.
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I had already read that Uhura was going to be on the show as some kind of VOODOO QUEEN :shock: or something like that with maybe some powers that was close to Nikki like a grandmother. :roll:
 
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