Nightclub holding light-skinned vs. dark-skinned women contest

[andreboba]

IMO we as Black people have 'issues' that only we as Black people can solve.

Knowing the historical antecedents is nice, but in practical terms it's not relevant. It doesn't change the present day reality of how foul this contest is or the idea to host it.

I thought the Enlightenment period for African Americans occurred in the 1960s and 1970s?? Black is Beautiful??
40 years later we're still dealing with this shit??

If a White guy is going to have to stand up in da club and shout, 'my brothers, please don't self-discriminate and reinforce generations of self-hate!!', then Black folk will be an oppressed people forever.

Might as well start breaking ground for Negro reservations in Mississippi!

 

[orejon4]

IMO we as Black people have 'issues' that only we as Black people can solve.

Knowing the historical antecedents is nice, but in practical terms it's not relevant. It doesn't change the present day reality of how foul this contest is or the idea to host it.

I thought the Enlightenment period for African Americans occurred in the 1960s and 1970s?? Black is Beautiful??
40 years later we're still dealing with this shit??

If a White guy is going to have to stand up in da club and shout, 'my brothers, please don't self-discriminate and reinforce generations of self-hate!!', then Black folk will be an oppressed people forever.

Might as well start breaking ground for Negro reservations in Mississippi!

I agree, but I think we needed another 25 years of that Enlightenment for the progress to really take root. Heck, we lost some of the best proponents of that line of thinking to the same social ills we're talking about here (Huey Newton, anyone?). And 40 years isn't that long in historical terms, it just seems long as hell to us because it's our entire lives (the only timeline I think anyone really understands). I think the historical antecedents aren't relevant to our day-to-day activities, but are critical in coming up with solutions. I don't agree with his entire thesis, but Na'im Akbar's "Chains and Images of Psychological Slavery" made some interesting observations about some of this.

We don't need to break ground on those Negro reservations, they're already there. They're called 'plantations'. Or maybe nowadays they're called 'projects'.

 

[andreboba]

We don't need to break ground on those Negro reservations, they're already there. They're called 'plantations'. Or maybe nowadays they're called 'projects'.

LOL! Cosign.

Sad but true.


EDIT:

What scares me is as a people, I think in many ways Black people are regressing.

The hardest comic in the game, Richard Pryor, has a spiritual epiphany after visiting Africa and decides to eliminate the word 'nigger' from his vocabulary, yet a generation of Black folk today think being called and using that slur is a birthright!!

Blacks as a whole use to value things like education and family more 40+ years ago than we do today.

Just makes you worried to think that culturally many of us have stopped making progress forward.

 

[The Dark King]

IMO we as Black people have 'issues' that only we as Black people can solve.

Knowing the historical antecedents is nice, but in practical terms it's not relevant. It doesn't change the present day reality of how foul this contest is or the idea to host it.

I thought the Enlightenment period for African Americans occurred in the 1960s and 1970s?? Black is Beautiful??
40 years later we're still dealing with this shit??

If a White guy is going to have to stand up in da club and shout, 'my brothers, please don't self-discriminate and reinforce generations of self-hate!!', then Black folk will be an oppressed people forever.

Might as well start breaking ground for Negro reservations in Mississippi!

Its very relevant since you have to understand the root of the problem in order to cure the disease. Don't just treat the symptoms treat what lead to those symptoms. As a people blacks need more self esteem, we need to build businesses, we need to establish education in the homes because the schools ain't shit but the absolute most important thing is the finger pointing has got to stop post haste. If you have no solutions nor are you willing to do something to help then shut the fuck up and go about your business. You're just causing noise pollution.

 

[andreboba]

Donating hats and gloves doesn't do shit for me.

Working in soup kitchens on weekends and taking in family members who've succumbed to drug abuse and mental illness to live under the same roof, that's where I'm working from.

Stop acting like you've got some ESP into other people's lives because they disagree with the high opinion you have of your own infallibility.

You think you're only person with a social conscience, TDK??lol

At some point a person has to be able to recognize they are damaged and try to do something to fix it.

Many of us have flat out quit, if we ever tried at all.

EDIT:

I can take you to some of the worst HS in D.C. where less than half of the students graduate, and I can show you 10 to 12 kids who are taking that 'crappy' education and going to college in the fall.

At this point the real solutions have to come from within.

Expecting a teenage mother to 'educate' her kids inside the home when she isn't educated herself is nonsense.

 

[The Dark King]

Donating hats and gloves doesn't do shit for me.

Working in soup kitchens on weekends and taking in family members who've succumbed to drug abuse and mental illness to live under the same roof, that's where I'm working from.

Stop acting like you've got some ESP into other people's lives because they disagree with the high opinion you have of your own infallibility.

You think you're only person with a social conscience, TDK??lol

At some point a person has to be able to recognize they are damaged and try to do something to fix it.

Many of us have flat out quit, if we ever tried at all.

Who the hell said that I had ESP on what others do with their lives? I said that if you're going to bitch so much on what happens in the black community then quit bitching and start problem solving. If "we" infact have a problem then "we" should do more than complain on a message board. Mobilize and organize and lets make some shit better.
If you think "we" quit then get off the floor and try again and don't stop trying till something gives. Tenacity can never be stopped no matter what the outside force unless the force within gives in.

Donating hats and gloves don't do shit for you but its kept the heads and hands of hundreds warm

 

[orejon4]

LOL! Cosign.

Sad but true.


EDIT:

What scares me is as a people, I think in many ways Black people are regressing.

The hardest comic in the game, Richard Pryor, has a spiritual epiphany after visiting Africa and decides to eliminate the word 'nigger' from his vocabulary, yet a generation of Black folk today think being called and using that slur is a birthright!!

Blacks as a whole use to value things like education and family more 40+ years ago than we do today.

Just makes you worried to think that culturally many of us have stopped making progress forward.

I think the problem is the growth of the structural underclass and its culture and ruthless survival ethos is spreading. But I'm firmly convinced that all of this will change and are growing pains as we adjust to socioeconomic change. But it's going to take people constantly striving to make things better.

 

[The Dark King]

Donating hats and gloves doesn't do shit for me.

Working in soup kitchens on weekends and taking in family members who've succumbed to drug abuse and mental illness to live under the same roof, that's where I'm working from.

Stop acting like you've got some ESP into other people's lives because they disagree with the high opinion you have of your own infallibility.

You think you're only person with a social conscience, TDK??lol

At some point a person has to be able to recognize they are damaged and try to do something to fix it.

Many of us have flat out quit, if we ever tried at all.

EDIT:

I can take you to some of the worst HS in D.C. where less than half of the students graduate, and I can show you 10 to 12 kids who are taking that 'crappy' education and going to college in the fall.

At this point the real solutions have to come from within.

Expecting a teenage mother to 'educate' her kids inside the home when she isn't educated herself is nonsense.

Then the education can come from someone else. I personally by myself took a kid who was failing out of hs and helped him graduate by taking every tuesday for 3 years to have family dinner with him and his mom while giving him constant homework help. IT CAN BE DONE. If you refuse to laze around and bitch that's your problem but the finger pointing has to die. DO SOMETHING MEANINGFUL.

 

[andreboba]

ESP - Extra sensory powers. As in, thinking you can judge how I live my life from a message board.

It gets tiring hearing you constantly drop the 'donate some clothes, get involved, do something instead a criticizing'....whenever someone disagrees with you.

The arrogance behind that assumption is outrageous.

You're judging something you just don't know, yet this is your fallback response.

Address the topic since we all have the same starting point.
I can't BE the topic because well, I haven't posted my bio.

You also seem to have bit a a self-congratulatory attitude for helping the less fortunate since you never miss an opportunity to regale us with your good deeds.

That's cool, but to use what you've done as a point to criticize me for being upset about the state of Black America sounds a little vain for a person of true social conscience.

Do what you do in anonymity and humility. Walk and talk as you believe.
But keep the ego trip to yourself.

 

[pettyofficerj]

ESP - Extra sensory powers. As in, thinking you can judge how I live my life from a message board.

It gets tiring hearing you constantly drop the 'donate some clothes, get involved, do something instead a criticizing'....whenever someone disagrees with you.

The arrogance behind that assumption is outrageous.

You're judging something you just don't know, yet this is your fallback response.

Address the topic since we all have the same starting point.
I can't BE the topic because well, I haven't posted my bio.

You also seem to have bit a a self-congratulatory attitude for helping the less fortunate since you never miss an opportunity to regale us with your good deeds.

That's cool, but to use what you've done as a point to criticize me for being upset about the state of Black America sounds a little vain for a person of true social conscience.

Do what you do in anonymity and humility. Walk and talk as you believe.
But keep the ego trip to yourself.

oh shit son

kudos to anyone doing anything to help the less fortunate

 

[JordanC]

Do what you do in anonymity and humility. Walk and talk as you believe.
But keep the ego trip to yourself.

I so agree. I bet if everyone here trumpeted their own horn so much the floor would be covered in vomit.

I feel confident in the ways I volunteer. The easy way is for a person who can write a check to do it, then think they did an awesome deed. That is for wimps. Actually giving yourself and time impresses me when I see it.

I won't list the ways I have but know I speak from doing and not just giving the cream off the top of my bowl that I don't need anyways and think I'm the shizz for doing so.

Andre you make a lot of awesome posts lately.

 

[Ches]

Andre you make a lot of awesome posts lately.

Co-sign! :smt023

 

[Alinoa]

that your friendly neighborhood democrat will continue funding to keep your black ass right there.

That your friendly neighborhood republican will cut all funding for and leave you and your family's ass out on the street with no additional help to get back on your feet.

(Fixed that for ya)

 

[pettyofficerj]

Shiiiiiiiiiiet

 

[The Dark King]

ESP - Extra sensory powers. As in, thinking you can judge how I live my life from a message board.

It gets tiring hearing you constantly drop the 'donate some clothes, get involved, do something instead a criticizing'....whenever someone disagrees with you.

The arrogance behind that assumption is outrageous.

You're judging something you just don't know, yet this is your fallback response.

Address the topic since we all have the same starting point.
I can't BE the topic because well, I haven't posted my bio.

You also seem to have bit a a self-congratulatory attitude for helping the less fortunate since you never miss an opportunity to regale us with your good deeds.

That's cool, but to use what you've done as a point to criticize me for being upset about the state of Black America sounds a little vain for a person of true social conscience.

Do what you do in anonymity and humility. Walk and talk as you believe.
But keep the ego trip to yourself.

Motherfucker are you serious? Me mentioning any kind of volunteer work on this forum if at all is always based on some dick bag trying to make it sound like I don't practice what I preach. I DARE ANYONE TO SHOW MORE THAN FIVE OR SIX TIMES IN LAST TWO YEARS I'VE BEEN ON HERE WHERE I MENTION WHAT I PERSONALLY HAVE DONE VOLUNTEER WISE.
And I bring it up to you because others like you and Paniro can site what's wrong till you're blue in the face. We got it the state of black people in America is fucked up. Sing it from the hill tops from sea to shining sea we get it. But what is the solution other than "we need to get our shit together" how? And its not like this is the only time you have said this or criticized the entire black community so instead of wasting air criticizing lend a helping hand. Do you want solutions or just to feel correct in your assumptions?
And if you think I truly have an ego about my passion for helping others than that's sad because you obviously don't know how to read.

 

[The Dark King]

That your friendly neighborhood republican will cut all funding for and leave you and your family's ass out on the street with no additional help to get back on your feet.

(Fixed that for ya)

amen

 

[wtarshi]

i can never thank karma enough for this....

 

[Alinoa]

never been my familys problem so no need to fix it unless it applies to you.

Oh, see, I thought it was in response to someone elses post. My bad.

And you are very lucky that it isn't your problem. Because with the state of the country now, it very well could be. I know, I know, you think that somehow your are infallible if you just keep doing what you're doing. But honey, LOTS of people thought that for a really LONG time.

Now they think that the whole system is a fucking joke (and they would be right about that) because the house that they worked so hard to pay for after living in it for 6 years? Foreclosed. And that nice cushy 175 K job they had to make those morgage payments? All gone...ba-bye..

It can all change in the blink of an eye...and when you get crazy motherfuckers in office that think along the same lines as you do? It does...

Only the ones who don't give a shit about all the blacks in the projects (who probably in all fairness DONT like it there and ARE working to get out) are the same ones that will lobby for huge ass corporations like GE and Microsoft to not have to pay their fair share in taxes.

And ultimately the ones who pay the most are not the ones who should. But the ones who can't.

But that's not you or your familys problem.

You may go about your business now.

 

[The Dark King]

You are seriously sexy as hell right now damn woman.

But real talk leave Paniro alone he truly believes allowing" job" creators to never pay taxes and making the lazy welfare people work is the answer to everything. He and all the conservative minded people live in a bubble.

Oh, see, I thought it was in response to someone elses post. My bad.

And you are very lucky that it isn't your problem. Because with the state of the country now, it very well could be. I know, I know, you think that somehow your are infallible if you just keep doing what you're doing. But honey, LOTS of people thought that for a really LONG time.

Now they think that the whole system is a fucking joke (and they would be right about that) because the house that they worked so hard to pay for after living in it for 6 years? Foreclosed. And that nice cushy 175 K job they had to make those morgage payments? All gone...ba-bye..

It can all change in the blink of an eye...and when you get crazy motherfuckers in office that think along the same lines as you do? It does...

Only the ones who don't give a shit about all the blacks in the projects (who probably in all fairness DONT like it there and ARE working to get out) are the same ones that will lobby for huge ass corporations like GE and Microsoft to not have to pay their fair share in taxes.

And ultimately the ones who pay the most are not the ones who should. But the ones who can't.

But that's not you or your familys problem.

You may go about your business now.

 

[Alinoa]

You are seriously sexy as hell right now damn woman.

But real talk leave Paniro alone he truly believes allowing" job" creators to never pay taxes and making the lazy welfare people work is the answer to everything.

"job creators" my ass...

speaking of which...I can shit out more job creation before 10 in the morning than these wealthy non tax paying "job creators" have been able to create in the last 20 years of their rise to power.

Of course when you are sitting on a job with money in the bank, that way of living works for you.

Whatever. Someday his luck will turn...and when it does...he might sing a different tune.

And if not...well some people never learn.