P.T.S.S. Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome

[K]

Where exactly did I do that? By simply voicing my disagreement with her views here, I'm painting her as a racist? I specifically excluded her from my statement about wp "not getting it" to avoid the drama that that could have produced...yet you still think I'm calling her racist. Interesting.

You specifically excluded her. In my response to your post I specifically included her. I did say she didn't get it. I NEVER said she was a racist. I haven't ever seen anything on here where someone painted her as a racist (I may have missed it though).

But you know - I'm supposedly up your ass.

 

[K]

When its in your face its a hard pill to swallow

yah it really is....it's so beyond that too. it's something that really shakes you and hurts your soul.

 

[The Dark King]

Your your your

You said your

I understand u were discussing the white experience at this point but u were specifically say her first. Now you are making a whole group experience "alledgedlly"

Then you are going to deny that very line you made. So you went from her and then her and whites as a whole.

We see you shitting in low weeds

I deny nothing since Ches is white and included in the white experience
The entirety of white experience as a whole is consistently shoved down our throats. We intimately know their experience because since the moment of our births it's constantly pushed on us so her statement that we couldn't possibly know how it is to be white us false considering we are brought up in the white experience.
Sorry the only thing I guess we can't get is the stung of falsely being called racists. Rather deal with that super infrequent inconvenience than to actually experience racism.

 

[goodlove]

U are full of shit.

U specifically said her life experience now you wanna buck dance.

Now back to our regular broadcast

I deny nothing since Ches is white and included in the white experience
The entirety of white experience as a whole is consistently shoved down our throats. We intimately know their experience because since the moment of our births it's constantly pushed on us so her statement that we couldn't possibly know how it is to be white us false considering we are brought up in the white experience.
Sorry the only thing I guess we can't get is the stung of falsely being called racists. Rather deal with that super infrequent inconvenience than to actually experience racism.

 

[The Dark King]

U are full of shit.

U specifically said her life experience now you wanna buck dance.

Now back to our regular broadcast

Your reading comprehension is abysmal if you seriously believe that.

 

[goodlove]

Your reading comprehension is abysmal if you seriously believe that.

Naw your just lying and you got caught....again Lol

Sad sad sad.

I'll trade reading comprehension for being an honest man any day.

 

[goodlove]

As I stated....I think boba made a thoughtful statement. I have to lean toward what he is saying. I would hope he would expand on it further.

I would surely like to get into the learned helplessness aspect of it

She's trying to frame the impact of racism and segregation in the language of psychology and for that reason I don't like the term PTSS.


Her definitions are mostly correct, but I don't like the terminology.

THe problem most African AMericans had in this country after the Emancipation Proclamation was signed is that it didn't stop the U.S. from being deeply racist towards Black folk.

It's not that Black folk were never able to fully un-hitch mentally from the yolk of slavery.

The dilemma isn't that the institution of slavery 'broke' us, it's that White people were never able to fully embrace the idea of Blacks being free and equal to themselves.

THe dominant culture was the problem, not some psychological burden within the minds of freed slaves themselves that was then passed down from generation to generation.

I don't like this.

For anyone to argue that Blacks are an inherently broken people, when our history has been one of survival against incredible odds, is IMO dangerous.

 

[goodlove]

You done nothing wrong except ask questions. That's it. I know you aren't a racist and had no intent.

Don't sweat it.

Funny how you only quote the parts you object to....

Any time someone challenges the black perspective in any way shape or form, even if just to bring a different perspective or to prompt conversation, we "just don't get it." Or we must be racist.

Oh, and in case you missed it, I'm appreciative of the fact that GL offered his support. Grown woman or not. When someone is willing to look past what they think they know and see what's really there, I applaud that. More folks ought to do that.

 

[RaiderLL]

Agreed. I still have times when it amazes me. Having a white child and a black child around the same ages there are times when as much as I may want to dismiss things, it makes it really difficult because it just is what it is.

You have a very unique perspective around here as you're raising children on both sides of the spectrum. People like to make smart comments about those of us with biracial kids, but they have no idea what it's like raising non-white children just like I don't know what it's like raising white kids. You see both sides. You could teach all of us a thing or two in this discussion!

yah it really is....it's so beyond that too. it's something that really shakes you and hurts your soul.

This.

You done nothing wrong except ask questions. That's it. I know you aren't a racist and had no intent.

Don't sweat it.

Lol you're the only one putting Ches and Racist in the same posts.

 

[goodlove]

Getting back your questions....

Of course blacks face racism and classism whereas white face classism

When it comes to crime - drug use whites use it at a higher rate but blacks are busted more so

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/racial-disparity-drug-use_n_3941346.html

Look at the GOP debates. One of the first half of the candidates confess to drug use but ......let pookie had done it and he couldn't be dog catcher

Grandparents always say "you have to do twice better than a wp just to get half the respect"

I'll put up more data on conviction rate and crime rate.

Bottom line its perception

Funny how you only quote the parts you object to....

Any time someone challenges the black perspective in any way shape or form, even if just to bring a different perspective or to prompt conversation, we "just don't get it." Or we must be racist.

Oh, and in case you missed it, I'm appreciative of the fact that GL offered his support. Grown woman or not. When someone is willing to look past what they think they know and see what's really there, I applaud that. More folks ought to do that.

 

[goodlove]

You have a very unique perspective around here as you're raising children on both sides of the spectrum. People like to make smart comments about those of us with biracial kids, but they have no idea what it's like raising non-white children just like I don't know what it's like raising white kids. You see both sides. You could teach all of us a thing or two in this discussion!



This.



Lol you're the only one putting Ches and Racist in the same posts.

I showed you in a post where TDK admitted it

 

[goodlove]

You have a very unique perspective around here as you're raising children on both sides of the spectrum. People like to make smart comments about those of us with biracial kids, but they have no idea what it's like raising non-white children just like I don't know what it's like raising white kids. You see both sides. You could teach all of us a thing or two in this discussion!



This.



Lol you're the only one putting Ches and Racist in the same posts.

How dare the highly racially charged comment be challenged.
Are you high? What did you expect?
You basically said why can't black kids get it together and not sell drugs my son did it.

There you go one more time.

What's silly? The thread is about race. So she ask questions and they get mad.

Damn

 

[goodlove]

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/black-crime-rates-your-st_b_8078586.html

Here are some info about how the justice system is inbalanced

Here's an excerpt from the article
(1) If a black person and a white person each commit a crime, the black person is more likely to be arrested. This is due in part to the fact that black people are more heavily policed.
Black people, more often than white people, live in dense urban areas. Dense urban areas are more heavily policed than suburban or rural areas. When people live in close proximity to one another, police can monitor more people more often. In more heavily policed areas, people committing crimes are caught more frequently. This could help explain why, for example, black people and white people smoke marijuana at similar rates, yet black people are 3.7 times as likely to be arrested for marijuana possession. (The discrepancy could also be driven by overt racism, more frequent illegal searches of black people, or an increased willingness to let non-blacks off with a warning.)

(2) When black people are arrested for a crime, they are convicted more often than white people arrested for the same crime.
An arrest and charge does not always lead to a conviction. A charge may be dismissed or a defendant may be declared not guilty at trial. Whether or not an arrestee is convicted is often determined by whether or not a defendant can afford a reputable attorney. The interaction of poverty and trial outcomes could help explain why, for example, while black defendants represent about 35% of drug arrests, 46% of those convicted of drug crimes are black. (This discrepancy could also be due to racial bias on the part of judges and jurors.)

 

[goodlove]

She's trying to frame the impact of racism and segregation in the language of psychology and for that reason I don't like the term PTSS.


Her definitions are mostly correct, but I don't like the terminology.

THe problem most African AMericans had in this country after the Emancipation Proclamation was signed is that it didn't stop the U.S. from being deeply racist towards Black folk.

It's not that Black folk were never able to fully un-hitch mentally from the yolk of slavery.

The dilemma isn't that the institution of slavery 'broke' us, it's that White people were never able to fully embrace the idea of Blacks being free and equal to themselves.

THe dominant culture was the problem, not some psychological burden within the minds of freed slaves themselves that was then passed down from generation to generation.

I don't like this.

For anyone to argue that Blacks are an inherently broken people, when our history has been one of survival against incredible odds, is IMO dangerous.

For me the whole post is strong as hell specifically this last part. When blacks learned how to read when it was against the law and later on became inventors before the 1900s (if im not mustakened) and doctors speaks volumes.

With what they know of our situation it would be imperative to mentor and rid of the learned helplessness

 

[goodlove]

Last example of white privilege in the area of the justice system. There's a heroine epidemic in new Hampshire. Saw a CNN special on it. They talked about in the debates and someone started a thread on it. The govt officials have been doing a thing where they treat the addicts. Well when crack hit blacks they gave them jail. You have to know also at the same time they privatized the prison system. Hhhmmm now its breaking our budgets and now you have the heroine epidemic.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/22/politics/new-hampshire-2016-addiction/

 

[RaiderLL]

There you go one more time.

What's silly? The thread is about race. So she ask questions and they get mad.

Damn

She did make racially charged comments. Tdk is spot fucking on. Still don't see where Ches was called a racist in this thread though.

Ftr, no ones "mad" that she asked questions. I appreciate that she at least seems interested in being educated on the topic. Myself and many others were answering her questions, trying to educate, and her responses made it clear that the information we were giving wasn't being understood by her. Truthfully, I think many white people verbalize an understanding of white privilege but when you show examples of it in their own lives, people naturally get defensive and many times you can tell they don't truly understand white privilege (nor will many acknowledge the advantages they've had from it).

Stop trying to stir shit up Captain. No one said Ches was racist. It was said that she made racially charged comments (true) and that she seems to not "get it" (true, by the opinion of those of us speaking with her).

 

[Beasty]

Naw your just lying and you got caught....again Lol

Sad sad sad.

I'll trade reading comprehension for being an honest man any day.

Epic fail. How can you be honest about something you read if you can't comprehend it? Lmao. How does that work professor?

 

[goodlove]

Bullshit it wasn't racially charged..niave you can say that but racial. We are talking race. And yes he was pissed.they were seriously adding on to shit to fit a narrative. Lastly to call someone captian you are the last to say..... Seriously the last.
Hell even I and Ches will disagree .

She did make racially charged comments. Tdk is spot fucking on. Still don't see where Ches was called a racist in this thread though.

Ftr, no ones "mad" that she asked questions. I appreciate that she at least seems interested in being educated on the topic. Myself and many others were answering her questions, trying to educate, and her responses made it clear that the information we were giving wasn't being understood by her. Truthfully, I think many white people verbalize an understanding of white privilege but when you show examples of it in their own lives, people naturally get defensive and many times you can tell they don't truly understand white privilege (nor will many acknowledge the advantages they've had from it).

Stop trying to stir shit up Captain. No one said Ches was racist. It was said that she made racially charged comments (true) and that she seems to not "get it" (true, by the opinion of those of us speaking with her).

 

[RaiderLL]

Bullshit it wasn't racially charged..niave you can say that but racial. We are talking race. And yes he was pissed.they were seriously adding on to shit to fit a narrative. Lastly to call someone captian you are the last to say..... Seriously the last.
Hell even I and Ches will disagree .

The first few posts/questions, I'll give you the ridiculous cover of "naive". After that though, racially charged fits the bill. Whatever floats your boat though, Cap'n :lol:

 

[goodlove]

The first few posts/questions, I'll give you the ridiculous cover of "naive". After that though, racially charged fits the bill. Whatever floats your boat though, Cap'n :lol:

Plz... Ms. Capt. Lol

Nothing about what she was asking/ talking was racially charged.