Pepsi Max Commercial

Tamstrong said:
Maybe to some folks it does, but it doesn't to me. I saw people when I watched the commercial; not a particular race of people in the commercial.
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Tam I hope more and more people think like you do. Some of the comments that are made by "some" black women about black men and white women together is not the stuff of tolerance and acceptance.

You are correct those are ignorant, intolerant individuals but they do exist and think that way, moreover they feel free to say any and everything without being chastised with the racist label that a white person would be called out on if they voiced similar sentiments.
 
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Bookworm616 said:
If one looks hard enough, one can find an issue with just about everything in this world.
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True, however, in my view, it must be recognized that:

1. I understand the point of the commercial was to show a woman trying to eat right. The point of the commercial really doesn't hit until she swaps his Pepsi for the zero calorie variety.

2. This commercial chose to specifically cast a black married couple, as a white couple in this scenario, would not be as humorous, if funny at all.

3. For that reason, this is yet another commercial playing on stereotypes, specifically on black women's insecurities on how they are commonly represented in the media. To a lesser extent it represents how black men are belittled by many black women, which isn't exactly a foreign concept on these forums.

4. The people who made this commercial are just as suspect as the commercial itself. Don't just give them a free pass. They got paid hefty sums to make this shit.

Originally Posted by Tamstrong
Maybe to some folks it does, but it doesn't to me. I saw people when I watched the commercial; not a particular race of people in the commercial.
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That is all fine and dandy in a perfect world. However, that is how I viewed the commercial. If you call this harmless as Tam and others do, your just turning a blind eye to the obvious implications of the material.
 
Eye of Ra said:
Yeah, I'm smoking some good shit because I don't see what you saw in this blantantly destructive commerical that's going to fuck up my soon to be fourteen year interracial marriage that I've had going with all the REAL Interracial issues that I see and deal with on a the regular or any other interracial relationships period. But that's just my silly ignorant fucking black ass though....
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I must be smoking the same shit, Ra-Ra. ;)

Bookworm616 said:
If one looks hard enough, one can find an issue with just about everything in this world.
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This is 100% true. When you go out of your way to search out negativity, you're always going to find it. What is the point of wasting so much time looking for all the ugliness in life? It makes no sense when the focus on all things negative does nothing but destroy the quality of your life, especailly when you complain about how miserable you are. You get out of life what you put into it; we are only victims if we choose to be. Granted, life is NOT easy, but who the hell said it was supposed to be? If it was, we woulldn't appreciate shit. I choose to focus on the good shit rather than the bad.

TastyAcidMilk said:
see i told some of you guys people would find something in this ad, allllllllllllllways happens with bm ww ads, teh conspiracy
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Sad isn't it? :smt085

GQ Brotha said:
Tam I hope more and more people think like you do. Some of the comments that are made by "some" black women about black men and white women together is not the stuff of tolerance and acceptance.

You are correct those are ignorant, intolerant individuals but they do exist and think that way, moreover they feel free to say any and everything without being chastised with the racist label that a white person would be called out on if they voiced similar sentiments.
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What others do or don't do is on them, and, IMO, the only effect they have on me is what I allow them to have. I've been through some crazy, ugly shit, BUT that doesn't give me any excuse to have the same ugly attitudes or behavior as those who hate me. I am NOT a victim, because I choose not to be.
 
Tamstrong said:
This is 100% true. When you go out of your way to search out negativity, you're always going to find it. What is the point of wasting so much time looking for all the ugliness in life? It makes no sense when the focus on all things negative does nothing but destroy the quality of your life, especailly when you complain about how miserable you are. You get out of life what you put into it; we are only victims if we choose to be. Granted, life is NOT easy, but who the hell said it was supposed to be? If it was, we woulldn't appreciate shit. I choose to focus on the good shit rather than the bad.

What others do or don't do is on them, and, IMO, the only effect they have on me is what I allow them to have. I've been through some crazy, ugly shit, BUT that doesn't give me any excuse to have the same ugly attitudes or behavior as those who hate me. I am NOT a victim, because I choose not to be.
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Very true, that is why you just have to say eff it and live one's life for your own happiness and peace of mind :)
 
GQ Brotha said:
Very true, that is why you just have to say eff it and live one's life for your own happiness and peace of mind :)
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But in many cases, one own happiness is influence by our environment. Our environment plays a huge role in the way we are, the way we think, and the way we act. That's not to say everyone within a certain environment acts or thinks a certain way. but it's undeniable that our environment does play a role in the way we are. With that said, television is part of our environment. It influences and in some cases, even manipulates individuals within our country.
That's why these topics our brought up, to discuss the ramifications
a commercial such as this may have on the public.

Now that's not to say I agree completely with the idea that this is slaunder towards black women. But I can see both sides of the argument. With that said, It was actually refreshing to see the commercial. On one side, it showed
a clear attraction between a black male and white woman, something
not really shown much on television for obvious reasons. On the other side,
I'm pretty sure many of the black women who have a problem with this commercial are the same black women who constantly bash bm/wf relationships in the first place. So for me, it's a win win situation lol.
 
xoxo said:
I'm expecting a good portion of BW on the web to be pissed.
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I'm on another site and the BW there aren't to happy about the stereotype being put out there but on the other hand are happy about the end b/c they think it shows how black couples stick together.
 
The commercial was meant to stir up conversation.


That's why they ended it with the blonde haired white girl being hit by the black woman in the park.

It supposed to have a 'read-between-the-lines effect'.
 
ReginaStar said:
I'm on another site and the BW there aren't to happy about the stereotype being put out there but on the other hand are happy about the end b/c they think it shows how black couples stick together.
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LOL, I read on Youtube where one respondent said, "well the best part of it was the white girl getting hit in the head"

Some black women need to let it be and date whomever they want, I don't hate on a black woman dating interracially. Everyone can do their own thing, I don't have to begrudge another person's happiness in life.
 
Everyone is so focused about the racial aspect that we've completely ignored the sexism and female-on-male violence in this commercial? A wife can have her husband eat healthy without her being so forceful about it. Why is it considered humorous for a woman to throw things at her husband? Why is the man being so emasculated here? Yet another commercial where they make all Black people look like modern day Jim Crow buffoons, its definitely not funny. :smt104
 
So I went out to the store to buy some Pepsi Max after all this talk made me crave for it, now I'm stuck with a dozen of regular Pepsi because they didn't have Pepsi Max. I haven't had pop (soda as some of you call it) in years. I blame you for this.

Whatever.
 
exist2live said:
Everyone is so focused about the racial aspect that we've completely ignored the sexism and female-on-male violence in this commercial? A wife can have her husband eat healthy without her being so forceful about it. Why is it considered humorous for a woman to throw things at her husband? Why is the man being so emasculated here? Yet another commercial where they make all Black people look like modern day Jim Crow buffoons, its definitely not funny. :smt104
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xoxo said:
I imagine there are other scenarios in which the changing the race of the individuals would create a different connotation for you.

Certainly a more extreme change would be Gender, as in a man pushing a woman's face down.
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^^^
 
i saw this and instantly thought about coming to the board because i knew once that white girl showed up at the end all the racial subtext would be there and ripe for examination (and ripe for being blown out of proportion). i honestly don't know why this is such a big deal to some people. so many commercials with white couples depict the woman bullying/controlling the husband to make him change, whether it be dieting, being more clean around the house, etc. its not a racial thing...if anything its a gender/marriage thing saying that men have to change once they get married and can no longer do the stuff they did as a bachelor. that wives/women are controlling and always trying to domesticate their man.

and lastly i will say this: the very fact that black women are getting so MAD about this...well doesn't that PROVE the "stereotype" that black women are "extra" and angry about every little thing??? it shows that maybe it is actually a reality and NOT just a "stereotype". they are behaving in the exact same way they say they don't. stereotypes only make people angry when they know theres some truth to it.
 
Soooo...Jewish people, Asians, Latinos, etc. are allowed to be upset about depictions of them in the media and protest, but as soon as Black people get upset its a problem? :smt012
 
Redeemed One Jr said:
Wow, there are sites with people starting boycotts and petitions about this stuff..

It was a commerical! I'm sure there are many times when casting plays a part in marketing to certain demographics, perspective of story, etc. but seriously, it was a commerical. It was the Superbowl, the time of year for extreme crazy commercials that are usually controversial. I don't get it...

Who knows, maybe I would feel differently if there was a car commerical with a black guy deemed enemy of the state, in a prison uniform, with a doo-rag on and a white woman bound and gag in his back seat with the cops chasing him. But I have yet to see that, so until it gets that bad or extreme, I will laugh and enjoy it for what it was and sleep good tonight knowing that I saw the Captain America teaser trailer which is mostly why I watched the Superbowl anyway lol
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It is important that you realize that America is a very sensitive, feminine-like country. It's easy for someone to complain about the simplest things. I would try and turn a blind eye to it and not saying anything, but older Americans who were watching the game on their TV may think differently and want to sue or attack Pepsi over the commercial.

playboy90210 said:
and lastly i will say this: the very fact that black women are getting so MAD about this...well doesn't that PROVE the "stereotype" that black women are "extra" and angry about every little thing??? it shows that maybe it is actually a reality and NOT just a "stereotype". they are behaving in the exact same way they say they don't. stereotypes only make people angry when they know theres some truth to it.
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I agree. I've experienced this at times and your relationship has less value to it if your girlfriend is always combative, loud, always needs $50 or $100, and is argumentative about small things. That's frustrating and it's not right to think of females in a negative light so the best thing to do is to avoid those kinds of people. Not all black women are like that (hopefully within America) but a good fraction of them are and that's the problem in America. From a global perspective, It's probably different.

The biggest turnoff I have with black women is if they keep asking for your money and they give a b/s reason for explaining why they need it. (in High School, Vivian was like this, she always asked if I had cash). You don't see white women always asking guys for cash, do you? Especially in these kinds of economic times, you're supposed to cut back on spending and save most of the money you make.
 
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