Prince Kicks Kim Kardashian Off The Stage

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satyr said:
As someone who grew up with both, Micheal Jackson never had the musical skills (composition, instrument mastery) that you see in Prince. Prince is a self-contained musician, meaning that does not have to rely on producers like Quincy Jones, Rod Temperton, or Teddy Riley to be a significant part of the music world.

For future reference, here is your litmus test:

Whenever you see a contemporary musician, ask yourself this.

During the height of the Classical/Romantic era, would this person be considered a musician or merely a performer?

With regard to Prince, he would be foremost considered a musician whereas Micheal would only be a performer. MJ's compositional skills were negligible; he never wrote anything half as good as Adore or Computer Blue. It's possible that he knew how to play instruments, but I never saw it.

Other modern musical figures who meet that criterion are Stevie Wonder, Bob Dylan, Miles Davis.

Actual musicians are much rarer than musical performers.
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Your argument is VERY much convincing, but there's one little area you're overlooking: voice. It seems as though that vocals is a forgotten or neglected element of music instruments. After all, music instruments are based on sound. And pianos, string instruments, and what not didn't really exist up as long as the voice.

And to answer your question, regarding Prince and MJ, they would both be classified as performers and not so much regarded as musicians. How? They both know how to play instruments, with Prince being much more versatile and varied, but he still has a certain style or character that makes him more of a performer than a musician.
 
Prince is a member to the same religion MJ once belonged: Jehovah's Witnesses. Besides,with that much talent he is under no one's shadow.
 
i couldn't see the video for some reason...!!! :smt089

Tamstrong said:
I don't think so. Michael was great, but Prince isn't under anybody's shadow. :cool:
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so bloody co-sign...!!! i don't think that their is any performer / musician who can compare to Prince...!!!

UnChosen 1 said:
Prince is a musical genius. He can play more than 14 musical instruments or something like that. In fact there are tons of ppl who think Prince is much more talented than Jackson.
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:smt039

satyr said:
You're a fool. Prince has always owned Micheal Jackson.

And Kim is possibly the most uninteresting person in the world.
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satyr said:
As someone who grew up with both, Micheal Jackson never had the musical skills (composition, instrument mastery) that you see in Prince. Prince is a self-contained musician, meaning that does not have to rely on producers like Quincy Jones, Rod Temperton, or Teddy Riley to be a significant part of the music world.

For future reference, here is your litmus test:

Whenever you see a contemporary musician, ask yourself this.

During the height of the Classical/Romantic era, would this person be considered a musician or merely a performer?

With regard to Prince, he would be foremost considered a musician whereas Micheal would only be a performer. MJ's compositional skills were negligible; he never wrote anything half as good as Adore or Computer Blue. It's possible that he knew how to play instruments, but I never saw it.

Other modern musical figures who meet that criterion are Stevie Wonder, Bob Dylan, Miles Davis.

Actual musicians are much rarer than musical performers.
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lol...OWNED...!!!
 
BigBrotherWise said:
How exactly? Has he broken a lot of barriers and reached a worldwide audience? No. Why? While he's talented, he lacked persuasive means to impact a generation.

And secondly, I never mentioned Kardashian at all, so where in the hell did that come from?
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See the name of the thread. ;)

Kunoichi said:
I've been to a Prince concert - had an absolute blast! How that boring bitch could not get into it, is beyond comprehension!
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I can't comprehend it either...I'd be a dancing fool. lol

BigBrotherWise said:
I'm not implying he's strictly sexual in his music. Just the majority. I do recall years ago, when I first discovered the computer and AOL Instant Messaging, one individual really took a strong fascination in him and his music and apparently, he's also someone who creates "feel good" music to give people some sense of hope, when she contemplated suicide in particular. It's always good to produce music like that for an audience.

And yet, MJ pretty much did that as well, and reached out to a worldwide audience. However, his music ranged from so many different facets.

And I do agree that CD sales and popularity really have nothing to do with talent. But in light of people like Michael Jackson, one shouldn't really compare him to people like Drake and Lil' Wayne. They're horrendous examples of modern day music, but they are big business people, which is a strong asset behind them.

And lastly, I am going to challenge you on the last bit regarding his impact in the music business. What exactly has he done that impacted the music industry, either as a revolution or an evolution? And this should be based more on what critics and fans alike can agree upon.
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You still don't get it. Like I said, it's clear you don't know much about Prince.

I wasn't comparing MJ to Drake & Lil Wayne...I was talking about using popularity & cd sales not being an indication of greatness.

The last part of your post is just silly (no offense), & I don't think there'd be any point in taking the time to explain it to you.

satyr said:
As someone who grew up with both, Micheal Jackson never had the musical skills (composition, instrument mastery) that you see in Prince. Prince is a self-contained musician, meaning that does not have to rely on producers like Quincy Jones, Rod Temperton, or Teddy Riley to be a significant part of the music world.

For future reference, here is your litmus test:

Whenever you see a contemporary musician, ask yourself this.

During the height of the Classical/Romantic era, would this person be considered a musician or merely a performer?

With regard to Prince, he would be foremost considered a musician whereas Micheal would only be a performer. MJ's compositional skills were negligible; he never wrote anything half as good as Adore or Computer Blue. It's possible that he knew how to play instruments, but I never saw it.

Other modern musical figures who meet that criterion are Stevie Wonder, Bob Dylan, Miles Davis.

Actual musicians are much rarer than musical performers.
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Way to break it down, Saty. :cool:

Soulthinker said:
Prince is a member to the same religion MJ once belonged: Jehovah's Witnesses. Besides,with that much talent he is under no one's shadow.
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:smt023
 
the vid doesnt show that she got a second chance.


have to say about kim is this......did you see that ASS.

DAMN !!!!!!!!!!

Stevie wonder saw that mofoing ASS
 
Soulthinker said:
Prince is a member to the same religion MJ once belonged: Jehovah's Witnesses. Besides,with that much talent he is under no one's shadow.
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Good point, I guess?

You know there is a 24-hour window to delete or edit your posts? Just throwing it out there.

Just for future considerations in this case.
 
BigBrotherWise said:
Your argument is VERY much convincing, but there's one little area you're overlooking: voice. It seems as though that vocals is a forgotten or neglected element of music instruments. After all, music instruments are based on sound. And pianos, string instruments, and what not didn't really exist up as long as the voice.

And to answer your question, regarding Prince and MJ, they would both be classified as performers and not so much regarded as musicians. How? They both know how to play instruments, with Prince being much more versatile and varied, but he still has a certain style or character that makes him more of a performer than a musician.
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Even if Prince never took to the stage as a performer ,he's talented enough to have a career writing and composing music for other artists. He's capable of doing this at a very high level. And he could do it in multiple genres. He's written tons of hits for other artists already. This is what makes him, at his core, a pure musician imo.


Prince's talents across the board are actually quite formidable. As many unfamiliar with him are discovering now that more of his stuff is available on youtube.
 
Read the back of a Prince LP cover, like 1999;

"Written, produced, performed, recorded and sung by PRINCE".

He played ALL the instruments on his biggest albums. MJ was a great performer and pop vocalist, but Prince is the combination of Quincy Jones AND Michael Jackson.

Prince is more talented IMO because of his instrumental musicianship. He's still regarded by many as the most unsung rock guitarist in pop music.
 
andreboba said:
Read the back of a Prince LP cover, like 1999;

"Written, produced, performed, recorded and sung by PRINCE".

He played ALL the instruments on his biggest albums. MJ was a great performer and pop vocalist, but Prince is the combination of Quincy Jones AND Michael Jackson.

Prince is more talented IMO because of his instrumental musicianship. He's still regarded by many as the most unsung rock guitarist in pop music.
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no arguments from me on that. Im a big MJ fan too...more so than prince but lets give cred where cred is due
 
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