Rachel Dolezal NAACP controversy

z said:
So she lied about her "race" big fucken deal, move on America, nutin to see here.
There are others who are culture vulture that benefits from cultural appropriation of minorities and use the profit to advance their community and would not give 2 fucks about that minority community. Give me a fucken break,
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You really think she cared? She would have never claimed to be black and lie so heavily if she cared. Truth be told the worst thing about this is its yet another dictation of what being black is as defined by white people. Also the hypocrisy is fucking hilarious because no one would ever dare afford the same privilege to Barack Obama even though his experience with his white mother her family along with going to ivy league white schools like Columbia and Harvard should by this bs theory make him white. Oh yeah not to mention that pesky thing of him actually being 50% white, but his ass is black point blank because the taint of black blood is that strong.
Culturally a mockery to black people and the struggle we've had to endure because there is absolutely no opting out. No matter your accomplishments you still have to deal with vile and disgusting hate associated with how you were born, now you want to give credit to someone who didn't have the decency to respect that? She couldn't be who she was and fight the good fight like a Tim Wise or the school teacher (her name escapes me) without selfishly and instinctively misappropriating the culture? Fuck outta here
 
The Dark King said:
You really think she cared? She would have never claimed to be black and lie so heavily if she cared. Truth be told the worst thing about this is its yet another dictation of what being black is as defined by white people. Also the hypocrisy is fucking hilarious because no one would ever dare afford the same privilege to Barack Obama even though his experience with his white mother her family along with going to ivy league white schools like Columbia and Harvard should by this bs theory make him white. Oh yeah not to mention that pesky thing of him actually being 50% white, but his ass is black point blank because the taint of black blood is that strong.
Culturally a mockery to black people and the struggle we've had to endure because there is absolutely no opting out. No matter your accomplishments you still have to deal with vile and disgusting hate associated with how you were born, now you want to give credit to someone who didn't have the decency to respect that? She couldn't be who she was and fight the good fight like a Tim Wise or the school teacher (her name escapes me) without selfishly and instinctively misappropriating the culture? Fuck outta here
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TDK, I see z's point on this. It doesn't mean she's some saint, but racism defines our experience in this country, and it's also why some black people in the NAACP chapter she ran believed her. She had enough outward resemblance for black people to believe she had gone through our experience, and suffering is the defining characteristic. For an example, witness how we act toward someone we don't think is "black enough", i.e. hasn't suffered as we have. I would be more pissed if she had used the hairdo to masquerade as a ghetto songstress or something, imitating Trina, and engaging in degrading activity.

pettyofficerj said:
I'm sure if I wore suits everyday (because we're the only ones who need to dress like we're going to fucking funerals to avoid mistreatment/be accepted), I wouldnt be profiled
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Think again. That has gotten me the "who are you supposed to be?" treatment on more than one occasion.
 
orejon4 said:
TDK, I see z's point on this. It doesn't mean she's some saint, but racism defines our experience in this country, and it's also why some black people in the NAACP chapter she ran believed her. She had enough outward resemblance for black people to believe she had gone through our experience, and suffering is the defining characteristic. For an example, witness how we act toward someone we don't think is "black enough", i.e. hasn't suffered as we have. I would be more pissed if she had used the hairdo to masquerade as a ghetto songstress or something, imitating Trina, and engaging in degrading activity.



Think again. That has gotten me the "who are you supposed to be?" treatment on more than one occasion.
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But the "pass" everyone is giving her is annoying as hell. And this could only happen with black people, no other group of people would be ok with this at all because the implication is two fold, one even in black face a white person can ultimately do the job of helping black people better than a black person can (more white man's burden bs), secondly this shit is totally unidirectional. Do we really need to add more to white privilege in this world. And more importantly she's a fucking liar, we don't need people making false discrimination charges, we have a hard enough time when shit is on video.
 
pettyofficerj said:
More capes around here than a gotdamn justice league reunion
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The Dark King said:
But the "pass" everyone is giving her is annoying as hell. And this could only happen with black people, no other group of people would be ok with this at all because the implication is two fold, one even in black face a white person can ultimately do the job of helping black people better than a black person can (more white man's burden bs), secondly this shit is totally unidirectional. Do we really need to add more to white privilege in this world. And more importantly she's a fucking liar, we don't need people making false discrimination charges, we have a hard enough time when shit is on video.
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I agree on many of these points as well. If the allegations are true, she is a liar. And if she did a good job representing black people, that's as much the fault of the people who respond to her differently because she's perceived to be "less black" or whatever, as it is her fault for impersonating a black person. I'm not saying it's A-OK for her to do this, but I can recognize a qualitative difference in being an advocate as opposed to hyper-exploitative. That being said, I still think it's effed up, but it isn't like she masqueraded as black to dismantle the Black Studies Program at Harvard, lol. This is one of the problems with African-Americans, and to some extent others in the Diaspora, having a negative identity, i.e. defined by negative experiences or as juxtaposed with 'whiteness'. We are defined by what we are not - not white, not free, not etc... It's one of the main reasons I like a Pan-Africanist conception of identity, because it affirms something other than the slave experience, which is the central characteristic in the U.S.

I'm not saying she should be inducted into the Negro Hall of Fame, lol.

The Dark King said:
Who ya'll kidding I'd be outside parking cars or cooking you'd be serving
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Watch out Flip Wilson, you're messing with my Pullman Porter job... Be right back...Mister Gilmore doesn't like his tea to get cold.
 
orejon4 said:
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I agree on many of these points as well. If the allegations are true, she is a liar. And if she did a good job representing black people, that's as much the fault of the people who respond to her differently because she's perceived to be "less black" or whatever, as it is her fault for impersonating a black person. I'm not saying it's A-OK for her to do this, but I can recognize a qualitative difference in being an advocate as opposed to hyper-exploitative. That being said, I still think it's effed up, but it isn't like she masqueraded as black to dismantle the Black Studies Program at Harvard, lol. This is one of the problems with African-Americans, and to some extent others in the Diaspora, having a negative identity, i.e. defined by negative experiences or as juxtaposed with 'whiteness'. We are defined by what we are not - not white, not free, not etc... It's one of the main reasons I like a Pan-Africanist conception of identity, because it affirms something other than the slave experience, which is the central characteristic in the U.S.

I'm not saying she should be inducted into the Negro Hall of Fame, lol.



Watch out Flip Wilson, you're messing with my Pullman Porter job... Be right back...Mister Gilmore doesn't like his tea to get cold.
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pettyofficerj said:
Affirmative action will have you serving inside and me and Orejon parking in torrential rainfall
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You guys should read Our Kind Of People eye opening I tell you
 
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