Rampant Envy of WM

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When I read comments by bm talking about most ww and others preferring wm it smacks of pure envy. It's odd that you would find something like this to complain about. I was formerly married to a bm but he didn't suffer from the same affliction that so many of you have on this site. Instead of trying slam wm, you should love them as much as you do ww because without them we wouldn't be here. Believe it or not most wm do not feel insecure about bm and their so called sexual expertise. How else can you explain them allowing their wives to be bedded by bm in their presence. You couldn't pay to say the same things about wm that you do about bw. How sorry!

The wm I know who date interracially do not go out of their way to direct hatred towards ww the way you guys do towards women of color. My former inlaws were very progressive women, beautiful and intelligent women but it wasn't unusual for bm to pass them up for women who were lacking in many respects. Some of my ex-husband's friends were exactly like certain members on this site. How can a man allow a ww to call them the N-word and love them to yet despise women of their own race for their imperfections. I get the feeling that the biggest male cheerleaders on this site rely on ww to enhance their standing in society and to their peers. Women should look long and hard at some of you before procreating but your own brand of racism will certainly be passed down.
 
wm are also the ones who continue to perpetuate the racism and white supremacy through Aryan groups, KKK, organizations, they also are the ones who desimated the native americans, enslaved africans, stole the land of the mexicans, and contiue to keep ghettos and politics to marginalize millions in this country. I have wm in my family too, and I love them, but it doesnt negate the fact that of history and social policy.
 
porcelainsnowbird said:
When I read comments by bm talking about most ww and others preferring wm it smacks of pure envy. It's odd that you would find something like this to complain about. I was formerly married to a bm but he didn't suffer from the same affliction that so many of you have on this site. Instead of trying slam wm, you should love them as much as you do ww because without them we wouldn't be here. Believe it or not most wm do not feel insecure about bm and their so called sexual expertise. How else can you explain them allowing their wives to be bedded by bm in their presence. You couldn't pay to say the same things about wm that you do about bw. How sorry!

The wm I know who date interracially do not go out of their way to direct hatred towards ww the way you guys do towards women of color. My former inlaws were very progressive women, beautiful and intelligent women but it wasn't unusual for bm to pass them up for women who were lacking in many respects. Some of my ex-husband's friends were exactly like certain members on this site. How can a man allow a ww to call them the N-word and love them to yet despise women of their own race for their imperfections. I get the feeling that the biggest male cheerleaders on this site rely on ww to enhance their standing in society and to their peers. Women should look long and hard at some of you before procreating but your own brand of racism will certainly be passed down.
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nonsense i knew a wm i used to work with who dated Bw and he was racist as fuck, he had a deep rooted hatred for BM, it got so bad i just did not want to be around him, he also dissed white women all the time. just so you know, wm are not subject to the stereotypes of selfhatred cooning etc thrown at bm who date interracially. the media does its best to provide ammunition to the haters of ir relationships involving black men. even the so called black media is owned by wm as such the only negative stereotypes thrown at ir is when it involves black men.
there is alot of stuff that goes on that people dont see or understand, i wont go into it but suffice to say there are many racist bw who diss bm to everyone too.
also remember during slave times wm routinely raped and had sexual relations with bw. but if a bm slept with a ww he was hanged.
Today the hanging is done through the media (at least the white owned section of black media) in the way that bm who date ir are potrayed and stereotyped as coons, sellouts, self hating etc. it creates a situation where the bm constantly has to defend his choice of partner.
there is alot of history and politics that you cant get away from.
also recognise this site is not about slamming wm ,it is about celebrating unions between ww and bm.
 
porcelainsnowbird said:
When I read comments by bm talking about most ww and others preferring wm it smacks of pure envy. It's odd that you would find something like this to complain about. I was formerly married to a bm but he didn't suffer from the same affliction that so many of you have on this site. Instead of trying slam wm, you should love them as much as you do ww because without them we wouldn't be here. Believe it or not most wm do not feel insecure about bm and their so called sexual expertise. How else can you explain them allowing their wives to be bedded by bm in their presence. You couldn't pay to say the same things about wm that you do about bw. How sorry!

The wm I know who date interracially do not go out of their way to direct hatred towards ww the way you guys do towards women of color. My former inlaws were very progressive women, beautiful and intelligent women but it wasn't unusual for bm to pass them up for women who were lacking in many respects. Some of my ex-husband's friends were exactly like certain members on this site. How can a man allow a ww to call them the N-word and love them to yet despise women of their own race for their imperfections. I get the feeling that the biggest male cheerleaders on this site rely on ww to enhance their standing in society and to their peers. Women should look long and hard at some of you before procreating but your own brand of racism will certainly be passed down.
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Bitch please.. :lol:

WM say the worst things about WW that date BM..

WM are the ones disowning their own daughters for dating BM..not the other way around..

WM are far more likely to attack an IR couple..Ask iffey'swifey about the BM that was axed to death by7 racist,JEALOUS,WM

BM aren't the ones going on about racial purity while screwing women of other races...ever hear of Strom Thurmond??

WM copy BM at every turn..from elvis to eminem..they even copy our handshakes...

BM jealous of WM..?..All i can say is :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
you guys have said it well. But i only have one thing to add:

Interracial dating is a phenomenon that black women hate to love and white men love to hate. And by the way, i'd have you know that the brothas on this site dont direct hatred towards ethnic women. A large majority of us like latinas and europeans as well. A few like Asians and black women. I doubt if any brotha here hates black women as such. Its just that we're for IR dating.
If wm dont get irked at IR dating, from the lips of who do thing like "black men get the wm rejects" come from? who are the people who call ww who date black men "negro lovers? reality check.
 
LaydeezmanCris said:
you guys have said it well. But i only have one thing to add:

Interracial dating is a phenomenon that black women hate to love and white men love to hate. And by the way, i'd have you know that the brothas on this site dont direct hatred towards ethnic women. A large majority of us like latinas and europeans as well. A few like Asians and black women. I doubt if any brotha here hates black women as such. Its just that we're for IR dating.
If wm dont get irked at IR dating, from the lips of who do thing like "black men get the wm rejects" come from? who are the people who call ww who date black men "negro lovers? reality check.
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Yo Chris

Who is it that always says BM can only date fat WW ?

Who is it that always says WW that date BM have low-self-esteem?

I won't be surprised if this porcelineblowbird is a WM or a BW..
 
me too, put that dude on troll patrol!! WM started the hate black men, enslave us, lynch us for looking at WW get the F outta here, WM are the worse enemy of the IR couple, then BW.
 
I very much doubt this porcelainsnowbird is a ww, for a start, very few ww would call themselves that.

Whoever he/she is, he/she is talking shite. BM man may (rightly) feel pissed of with the white man's high status in the world (particularly how the claimed it), and how they as bm are looked down upon by some and given a hard time, but I don't know of any bm who is genuinely jealous of wm and none would want to be one.

WM are the ones copying "black" style, "black" style in general is filtering through to mainstream via the media (controlled by whites) and wm are the ones most likely to commit racially motivated crime (see link below as quoted by flaminghetero)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/4730559.stm

I really think this attention seeking, starved of oxygen at birth fool deserves no more of our time.
 
porcelainsnowbird said:
When I read comments by bm talking about most ww and others preferring wm it smacks of pure envy. It's odd that you would find something like this to complain about. I was formerly married to a bm but he didn't suffer from the same affliction that so many of you have on this site. Instead of trying slam wm, you should love them as much as you do ww because without them we wouldn't be here. Believe it or not most wm do not feel insecure about bm and their so called sexual expertise. How else can you explain them allowing their wives to be bedded by bm in their presence. You couldn't pay to say the same things about wm that you do about bw. How sorry!

The wm I know who date interracially do not go out of their way to direct hatred towards ww the way you guys do towards women of color. My former inlaws were very progressive women, beautiful and intelligent women but it wasn't unusual for bm to pass them up for women who were lacking in many respects. Some of my ex-husband's friends were exactly like certain members on this site. How can a man allow a ww to call them the N-word and love them to yet despise women of their own race for their imperfections. I get the feeling that the biggest male cheerleaders on this site rely on ww to enhance their standing in society and to their peers. Women should look long and hard at some of you before procreating but your own brand of racism will certainly be passed down.
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If I were to click on your profile, and read through all of your posts, I would say that not only are you a racist troll, but you are incredibly STUPID...

in fact, every response you write is stupid, paranoid, hypocritical, and judgmental. Who the fuck do you think you are to judge and criticize us for what we know is true? Do you live a bomb shelter or somethin'?

All you did was mis-read all of our opinions and then jump on your first gut reaction to them, but let me guess, all of the things we say about white men are all lies and are all in our minds, right? Funny how racism is always only in our minds whenever white people want it to be, but a lot of these same white racists will bicker with one another about racism towards black people...

and, oh, let me guess again. White pussy is a special privilege, and we should be thankful to have the kind of access to it that we do, right? We are just ungrateful, 'bad negroes', huh?

And, don't tell me! If black people say, do, think, or feel something that makes the 'precious white people' uncomfortable, then it's okay to be nasty, judgmental, neurotic, and racist towards them, just as long as you don't say the N-word, and speak of any stereotypes, right? :roll:

How DO YOU manage to pull these things out of your ass so much? :roll:

You have quite a load in there...

Try not to blame us for slavery while you're at it again...

and, stick to your white men, if you really are a racist white bitch (you still love them much more). It won't be our loss, so don't flatter yourself.
 
Tell me doesn't this say it all?

i dont think the ww are anyones throw aways, but if they dont want them, we sure do.

wm dont own ww anymore than bw own us bm. It is sad though that ww seem to want to please so many of the men who are in control of the majority wealth and power. I thought the feminist movement would have changed that but to my chagrin, white women in the US at least have become even more rabidly white men hungry. so are asian, latin and many black women today.

very few white women overall, are interested in bm, and hardly no asian women are. bw only want what is peddled by the black establishment(a figment of their imagination) or the thugs already married to their drugs or their cell mate.

when i talk about BM here, i am speaking of good black men with educations, jobs, careers, active lives, strong sense of self and their history, and religious men (these are the decent men that bw find so elusive)

I am not bashing WM perse, I am intriqued mostly by the cult status of WM by AW, WW and LW. what do they do for you thats BM cant?
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For those who speak so loose and freely, why is it that when anyone disagrees with you the first things you scream are troll and klan member in the house? The glaring ignorance, chauvinism and racism poring from some of your comments throughtout this board is rather disgusting. Also for your information everyone borrows and copies from each culture so what's the big deal now? I don't care what you say all this whining about wm signals a deep abiding insecurity.

Why are bm so touchy and beyond reproach? You might have a few sycophants who chirp on cue what you want to hear but the bottom line is bm like all men are far from perfect. A few of you spend way too much time attempting to divert attention from yourselves by taking backhanded shots at everyone else. Get the plank out your own eye before you rear back complaining and critiquing everybody else. How do you explain threads about ugly ducklings and how badly ww age? Like someone already said you quickly get in pissing contests for most victimized status and it's starting to wear thin. The hypocrisy I've witnessed is absolutely astounding. I've never dated ir exclusively because there's good and bad in ALL races. However, some of you are getting ridiculous with your criticisms of wm born out of your own very personal frustration with the dating scene. Now you have the floor so let the infantile, insulting names rain down! I won't stoop to your level.
 
porcelainsnowbird said:
Tell me doesn't this say it all?

i dont think the ww are anyones throw aways, but if they dont want them, we sure do.

wm dont own ww anymore than bw own us bm. It is sad though that ww seem to want to please so many of the men who are in control of the majority wealth and power. I thought the feminist movement would have changed that but to my chagrin, white women in the US at least have become even more rabidly white men hungry. so are asian, latin and many black women today.

very few white women overall, are interested in bm, and hardly no asian women are. bw only want what is peddled by the black establishment(a figment of their imagination) or the thugs already married to their drugs or their cell mate.

when i talk about BM here, i am speaking of good black men with educations, jobs, careers, active lives, strong sense of self and their history, and religious men (these are the decent men that bw find so elusive)

I am not bashing WM perse, I am intriqued mostly by the cult status of WM by AW, WW and LW. what do they do for you thats BM cant?
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For those who speak so loose and freely, why is it that when anyone disagrees with you the first things you scream are troll and klan member in the house? The glaring ignorance, chauvinism and racism poring from some of your comments throughtout this board is rather disgusting. Also for your information everyone borrows and copies from each culture so what's the big deal now? I don't care what you say all this whining about wm signals a deep abiding insecurity.

Why are bm so touchy and beyond reproach? You might have a few sycophants who chirp on cue what you want to hear but the bottom line is bm like all men are far from perfect. A few of you spend way too much time attempting to divert attention from yourselves by taking backhanded shots at everyone else. Get the plank out your own eye before you rear back complaining and critiquing everybody else. How do you explain threads about ugly ducklings and how badly ww age? Like someone already said you quickly get in pissing contests for most victimized status and it's starting to wear thin. The hypocrisy I've witnessed is absolutely astounding. I've never dated ir exclusively because there's good and bad in ALL races. However, some of you are getting ridiculous with your criticisms of wm born out of your own very personal frustration with the dating scene. Now you have the floor so let the infantile, insulting names rain down! I won't stoop to your level.
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I have to agree with this, even if I don't completely agree with your original statement; you have a valid question.

Some of the black men here HATE being proved wrong. They hate having scientific facts prove them wrong, they hate having their own statements quoted back to them and they have no way to react to any of it besides calling names. It's like fighting with a child. You tell them that skin is an organ and they say, "No it's not!" Skin is an organ, here's the scientific proof. "No it's not! You're stupid!" You said this. "No I didn't!!" Yes, you did. Here is the quote. "You're a racist!" If they actually say, "sorry" like they bumped you in an elevator after calling you a Klan member, they think you should be grateful and accepting immediately. It's like a gang of black men beating the shit out of you and then saying, "sorry." They expect you to be grateful for the apology and if you're not, you're a crackhead racist troll. All you can do is brace yourself for the next beating.

If they've lost their victim status somehow, they race to get it back and FAST! You didn't accept my apology after I called you a racist, a troll and a Klan member! Why in heavens aren't you sucking my dick yet? (Not that I want to cock block the guy who called you fat, racist whore--of course, he gets to go first.) YOU RACIST!!

Honey, don't fight them. They'll just band together and beat you. They can't simply discuss the issues of why a person may think something. I understand that you're just asking a question, but these people will never admit that there is even a grain of truth in what you've said. Now, they'll beat the shit of me for saying this, but hey--I'm used to it now.
 
Sabinne, for some reason i was excepting you to come up with a similar false hypotheses as this person. But right now, im too busy to analyse anything so i'd let go for now. But your points are as invalid as some of Aristotle's conclusions.
 
LaydeezmanCris said:
Sabinne, for some reason i was excepting you to come up with a similar false hypotheses as this person. But right now, im too busy to analyse anything so i'd let go for now. But your points are as invalid as some of Aristotle's conclusions.
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Excepting or expecting? And what is my hypothesis?
 
i meant to say expecting as you can well imagine. About your hypothesis, i am somewhat surprised that you're even pretending not know where i am heading. You and this "porcelainsnowbird" seem to have a very irrational idea about men being proved wrong. You know, this is an issue which is unprofitably philosophical and definitely unsettable. You certainly have some sad but definitely racist misconceptions about black men and their behaviors.

You compare conversing with black males on this site to having a conversation with a child. How narrow-minded and half-witted of you to say!!!!! Can you compare the intellect and wisdom of an adult male to that of a child???

You continue apparently and everlastingly put up your supposedly true (but really ignorant, trivial and absurd) beliefs without ever achieving consensus about what any of the answers are. One thing you dont seem to understand is that in reality, it is a very difficult task to prove irrational points, most especially if they do not have strong proof. The nerve of porcelainsnowbird's arguments proceeds from her alleged facts and the lack of the existence of a consensus.

If you ask me, many of you and this dull-witted person's ideas stem from racial stereotypes. What you fail to understand is opinions are totally different from facts. Most beliefs are myths which are bound to result in deliberation. When humans disagree which the black males on this board are not immune to, it is not because they love to disagree or because they want to show off intelligence, it is because debates are a way or learning. Debates are a way of getting new information and having the two sides of the coin taken into consideration. Debates have no racial restrictions like you believe. The reason you believe that black men hate being proved wrong is because at one point or the other, you are always bringing up race into your debate which is mostly irrelevant. And as you can well imagine, no sensible person is going to sit back and watch you make silly, unimportant comments without questioning your intelligence. If you never bring up race in any of your discussions in the first place, it is less than likely you'd be called a racist.

Besides, human beings in general do not like their intellect to be questioned anyway. It is an individual feeling to resent intellectual challenges and not a race issue. This is the reason why a lot ofyour arguments are unsound, and as common, as the inference which moves from the true observation that there is a great diversity of moral opinion directly to the conclusion that none of these opinions can be properly said- much less be known- to be either true or false.

Speaking of name-calling, i am pretty sure that i speak for everyone else when i say you're the leader of that action. Lets call a spade a spade, you do that when someone proves you wrong and you have nothing more to come up with.

I am not really surprised that you share the same opinions because as they say, birds of the same feather flock together. But i can be your advocate; if you have such a bad opinion on IR dating, why are you on an IR friendly site? Reality check No. 2.
 
LaydeezmanCris said:
i meant to say expecting as you can well imagine. About your hypothesis, i am somewhat surprised that you're even pretending not know where i am heading. You and this "porcelainsnowbird" seem to have a very irrational idea about men being proved wrong. You know, this is an issue which is unprofitably philosophical and definitely unsettable. You certainly have some sad but definitely racist misconceptions about black men and their behaviors.
You compare conversing with black males on this site to having a conversation with a child. How narrow-minded and half-witted of you to say!!!!! Can you compare the intellect and wisdom of an adult male to that of a child???
You continue apparently and everlastingly put up your supposedly true (but really ignorant, trivial and absurd) beliefs without ever achieving consensus about what any of the answers are. One thing you dont seem to understand is that in reality, it is a very difficult task to prove irrational points, most especially if they do not have strong proof. The nerve of porcelainsnowbird's arguments proceeds from her alleged facts and the lack of the existence of a consensus.
If you ask me, many of you and this dull-witted person's ideas stem from racial stereotypes. What you fail to understand is opinions are totally different from facts. Most beliefs are myths which are bound to result in deliberation. When humans disagree which the black males on this board are not immune to, it is not because they love to disagree or because they want to show off intelligence, it is because debates are a way or learning. Debates are a way of getting new information and having the two sides of the coin taken into consideration. Debates have no racial restrictions like you believe. The reason you believe that black men hate being proved wrong is because at one point or the other, you are always bringing up race into your debate which is mostly irrelevant. And as you can well imagine, no sensible person is going to sit back and watch you make silly, unimportant comments without questioning your intelligence. If you never bring up race in any of your discussions in the first place, it is less than likely you'd be called a racist.
Besides, human beings in general do not like their intellect to be questioned anyway. It is an individual feeling to resent intellectual challenges and not a race issue. This is the reason why a lot ofyour arguments are unsound, and as common, as the inference which moves from the true observation that there is a great diversity of moral opinion directly to the conclusion that none of these opinions can be properly said- much less be known- to be either true or false.
Speaking of name-calling, i am pretty sure that i speak for everyone else when i say you're the leader of that action. Lets call a spade a spade, you do that when someone proves you wrong and you have nothing more to come up with.
I am not really surprised that you share the same opinions because as they say, birds of the same feather flock together. But i can be your advocate; if you have such a bad opinion on IR dating, why are you on an IR friendly site? Reality check No. 2.
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I didn't say I was immune to name calling, I've done it, of course. It's just not my only response. I can come up with proof to back my statements, they aren't just made up like "skin isn't an organ and everybody knows that".

Which of my arguments are unsound? You say that and offer no example.

I can't see where porcelainsnowbird said anything about some of the men here hating to be proved wrong, but maybe I missed something. Otherwise, I don't see how you can say we both have the same opinion on the matter. In fact, I did say that I didn't agree with her original statements, however I can see where she can make the inferences that she has. Perhaps some of you could explain to her how she's misreading the statements that some of you have made or at least explain why they are incorrect. That would be far more constructive, don't you think?

How can I not bring race into my comments? On an interracial site, that's kind of difficult. I try to just say "skin color" so it could pertain to any skin color. When I refer to a "black man" it means I'm referring to one. This isn't a case where the emperor has no clothes and I'm going to pretend he does--if a person is black, they are.

Can I compare the intellect and wisdom of an adult male to that of a child? Of course. When someone responds over and over the same way my nine year old nephew would respond, only with less education, I'm going to have to say they are very similar.

I agree with you about debating, but the men I'm referring to aren't debating. They are calling people horrible names (I'm not excusing myself) most of the time. If someone doesn't agree with them then they are members of the Klan, they are racists, they are trolls and whores. That's not quite sporting and it certainly isn't in the spirit of debate.

I also agree with you about having different beliefs and points of view, but how can we learn from each other if we're constantly attacking each other? I'm not saying I'm not guilty, but at one point or another folks should put the gauntlets down and just talk.
 
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