Random Political comments...

[Bliss]

And you would be correct on both counts.

And for the record, just so everyone is clear, I have no problems with Paniro or anyone else's political or religious views because I'm not very big fan of either. Religion and politics are nothing more than tools used by the rich and powerful or those seeking riches and power to keep the masses in line IMO. So anyone riding too heavily on political or religious ideology on one extreme or another or the combination of both is already kind of suspect in my eyes out the gate. Especially if your into "battling" other people over political/religious issues while demanding that they "respect" you while doing it. WTF!!!

And the same thing goes for racial issues with me as well. If you're constantly vilifying other races for various things while excusing your own or other races for the same things or vice versa on any level, yeah, you're suspect.


So "No" I'm not having a drink with either one of those dudes. Don't need or want those headaches in my space if I have any say about it.

I can respect that. Good post.

 

[Paniro187]

So clearly you were offended since you had to post this up?


So much for disagreeing but respecting other people's views and opinions, huh.....

So we can hug it out? Yay or nay

 

[Ol'Skool Classic]

So we can hug it out? Yay or nay

Why you looking for my approval?


Stay in the lane you have carved for yourself here & I will respectfully do the same. Is that good enough for you? It better be. Have a nice day.

 

[samson1701]

One of my best friends is a very, very hard right conservative. Ultra religious. The whole bit. He's so far right, that he feels slavery couldn't have been as bad as "liberal" educators have made it out to be. His rational; slave owners where business owners. And what business owner would abuse his equipment in that manner? ...lol

I kid you not. He's that far to the right. My girlfriend can't stand he and his wife. She finds their version of christianity ... lacking. To put it mildly.

But he and I have a blast. We argue politics and religion whenever we get together. For us, it's like a game of basketball in the street. Both of us are from the Detroit area so we get loud about it and it's never a big deal. It's never personal. Except for pride, feelings don't get hurt. We go at it till we get tired of going back and forth. Sometimes I have to admit he's right. Sometimes he has to admit I'm right or agree to disagree and move on. Afterwards we get a pizza or watch a movie or just shoot the shit about the old days in the club scene back in the D. He's probably one of the coolest guys I know. He makes a very good living and will give you shirt off of his back if you need it (but if the government asks ... hell no!).

I think we should strive to have friends of different views. It's good for us. It keeps us civil and serves to remind us that we're all connected in ways we're not always cognizant of. People are the basis of movements and movements feul progress. None of that happens if we stick to people who view things exactly as we do. Growth is uncomfortable. And it should be. Keeping that in mind, you never know who you'll pick up an idea from that will shift your whole way of thinking and perceiving life going forward.

I believe that you should vote for policies not people. People are flawed and will disapoint you. But if they can be a tool advance the policies you care about, then that's who should get your vote. Their personal foibles be damned. That changed my whole view of politics. I learned that at nineteen from one of my mentors. He was a Republican.

Your world can change in a sentence. Truth knows no ideology. It simply is. Why limit it's pathways to you by having only friends of one kind.

 

[The Dark King]

That's already happening with the DNC. How many times have we all been told to "step in line" behind Hillary?

And this is only the beginning....

You guys love telling have truths. Step in line to make sure trump doesn't win.

 

[The Dark King]

One of my best friends is a very, very hard right conservative. Ultra religious. The whole bit. He's so far right, that he feels slavery couldn't have been as bad as "liberal" educators have made it out to be. His rational; slave owners where business owners. And what business owner would abuse his equipment in that manner? ...lol

I kid you not. He's that far to the right. My girlfriend can't stand he and his wife. She finds their version of christianity ... lacking. To put it mildly.

But he and I have a blast. We argue politics and religion whenever we get together. For us, it's like a game of basketball in the street. Both of us are from the Detroit area so we get loud about it and it's never a big deal. It's never personal. Except for pride, feelings don't get hurt. We go at it till we get tired of going back and forth. Sometimes I have to admit he's right. Sometimes he has to admit I'm right or agree to disagree and move on. Afterwards we get a pizza or watch a movie or just shoot the shit about the old days in the club scene back in the D. He's probably one of the coolest guys I know. He makes a very good living and will give you shirt off of his back if you need it (but if the government asks ... hell no!).

I think we should strive to have friends of different views. It's good for us. It keeps us civil and serves to remind us that we're all connected in ways we're not always cognizant of. People are the basis of movements and movements feul progress. None of that happens if we stick to people who view things exactly as we do. Growth is uncomfortable. And it should be. Keeping that in mind, you never know who you'll pick up an idea from that will shift your whole way of thinking and perceiving life going forward.

I believe that you should vote for policies not people. People are flawed and will disapoint you. But if they can be a tool advance the policies you care about, then that's who should get your vote. Their personal foibles be damned. That changed my whole view of politics. I learned that at nineteen from one of my mentors. He was a Republican.

Your world can change in a sentence. Truth knows no ideology. It simply is. Why limit it's pathways to you by having only friends of one kind.

Anyone who has that view on slavery could never be a friend it's the same b.s. opinions that fuel support of police brutality. I can be cool with most people but friend is a strong word akin to family

 

[The Dark King]

The problem with condoning any type of corruption is that corruption is like heroin. Once you take a little, you're hooked and it gets worse and worse and worse until you're the President endorsing two candidates that did everything in their power to disenfranchise voters, another candidate, and basically shit all over the democratic process.

And yes, I just said that Obama has become corrupt as hell. There is no other explanation for his silence during the election suppression/fraud allegations. There is no other explanation for him fully endorsing Hillary. There is no other explanation for him fully endorsing DWS.

I cannot believe how incredibly corrupt this administration has become. It's sickened me.

And that's the problem with corruption - it never just ends at a little, because when you get a taste of it, the hunger becomes so deep that nothing can satisfy your cravings for more.

So, no, condoning any type of corruption is bad news.

You know why I loved Bernie Sanders so much? Because he actually proved that you can work in government and basically keep your hands clean.

I want someone with integrity running this country. Unfortunately, though, integrity is looked at as a weakness. :smt011

You can't get anything done without corruption people in power are greedy and self serving. There is literally no way around it as we saw with Sanders. The best candidate for the people in our life time couldn't make it happen. The dumb as fuck population would rather go for name brands and entertainment. That will never change so here we are having to vote for the lesser of two evils again.
That's the government we want. The people get what they deserve for being dumb lazy and blind

 

[samson1701]

Anyone who has that view on slavery could never be a friend it's the same b.s. opinions that fuel support of police brutality. I can be cool with most people but friend is a strong word akin to family

I forgot to add, dude is a brotha, too. ...lol

 

[Paniro187]

Repped Samson very nice post

 

[The Dark King]

I forgot to add, dude is a brotha, too. ...lol

So are Ben Carson, Stacey Dash, and Don Lemon what's your point lol

All I know is this certain kinds of thinking left unchecked have insanely dire consequences. The genocide of the Jews started with funny cartoons and later evolved into the atrocities.
Certain shit is plain not ok and supporting hate/fear mongers want xenophobia and inequality are not good people.

 

[empirestate86]

One of my best friends is a very, very hard right conservative. Ultra religious. The whole bit. He's so far right, that he feels slavery couldn't have been as bad as "liberal" educators have made it out to be. His rational; slave owners where business owners. And what business owner would abuse his equipment in that manner? ...lol

I kid you not. He's that far to the right. My girlfriend can't stand he and his wife. She finds their version of christianity ... lacking. To put it mildly.

But he and I have a blast. We argue politics and religion whenever we get together. For us, it's like a game of basketball in the street. Both of us are from the Detroit area so we get loud about it and it's never a big deal. It's never personal. Except for pride, feelings don't get hurt. We go at it till we get tired of going back and forth. Sometimes I have to admit he's right. Sometimes he has to admit I'm right or agree to disagree and move on. Afterwards we get a pizza or watch a movie or just shoot the shit about the old days in the club scene back in the D. He's probably one of the coolest guys I know. He makes a very good living and will give you shirt off of his back if you need it (but if the government asks ... hell no!).

I think we should strive to have friends of different views. It's good for us. It keeps us civil and serves to remind us that we're all connected in ways we're not always cognizant of. People are the basis of movements and movements feul progress. None of that happens if we stick to people who view things exactly as we do. Growth is uncomfortable. And it should be. Keeping that in mind, you never know who you'll pick up an idea from that will shift your whole way of thinking and perceiving life going forward.

I believe that you should vote for policies not people. People are flawed and will disapoint you. But if they can be a tool advance the policies you care about, then that's who should get your vote. Their personal foibles be damned. That changed my whole view of politics. I learned that at nineteen from one of my mentors. He was a Republican.

Your world can change in a sentence. Truth knows no ideology. It simply is. Why limit it's pathways to you by having only friends of one kind.

This due may be black but I cannot support or be friends with someone who has that view of slavery. It's ignorant and the world would be better off without people with his mentality. It's poisonous.

 

[empirestate86]

So are Ben Carson, Stacey Dash, and Don Lemon what's your point lol

All I know is this certain kinds of thinking left unchecked have insanely dire consequences. The genocide of the Jews started with funny cartoons and later evolved into the atrocities.
Certain shit is plain not ok and supporting hate/fear mongers want xenophobia and inequality are not good people.

^^^^ This is 100% true!!

 

[samson1701]

So are Ben Carson, Stacey Dash, and Don Lemon what's your point lol

All I know is this certain kinds of thinking left unchecked have insanely dire consequences. The genocide of the Jews started with funny cartoons and later evolved into the atrocities.
Certain shit is plain not ok and supporting hate/fear mongers want xenophobia and inequality are not good people.

Good points all. I was just pointing out the absurdity of someone black thinking that way.

 

[The Dark King]

Good points all. I was just pointing out the absurdity of someone black thinking that way.

Oh yeah it's crazy but I think that type of delusion exists to protect someone from the harsh truth that humans can be absolutely evil and even worst that evil was directed at you and no one cared and no one tried to stop it for centuries.

 

[samson1701]

This due may be black but I cannot support or be friends with someone who has that view of slavery. It's ignorant and the world would be better off without people with his mentality. It's poisonous.

Nah. We've been friends for decades. Since before he was a conservative and he's had my back when some of my liberal friends where nowhere to be found. I can't just throw good friends away. Doesn't sit well with me.

Besides, what kind of liberal would I be if I just turned my back on the mentally ill like that? :smt077

 

[meowkittenmeow]

I wouldn't listen to that guy... but I would listen to this one...

The white liberal differs from the white conservative only in one way. The liberal is more deceitful than the conservative. The liberal is more hypocritical than the conservative. Both want power, but the white liberal is the one who has perfected the art of posing as the Negro’s friend and benefactor, and by winning the friendship and support of the Negro, the white liberal is able to use the Negro as a pawn or tool in this political football game. Politically the American Negro is nothing but a football, and the white liberals control this mentally dead ball. Through tricks of tokenism and false promises, and they have the willing cooperation of Negro leaders. These leaders sell out our people for just a few crumbs of token recognition and token gains-----MALCOLM X ( from his speech called, God’s Judgment of White America)


The white conservatives aren’t friends of the Negro either, but at least they don’t try to hide it. They are like wolves, they show you their teeth in a snarl. That always keep the Negro aware of where he stands with them, but the white liberals are foxes who show their teeth to the Negro also, but they pretend they’re smiling. The white liberal is more dangerous than the conservative. They lure the Negro, and as the Negro runs from the growling wolf. He flees into the open jaws of the smiling fox. The job of the Negro leaders is to make the Negro forget that the wolf and fox belong to the same canine family, and no matter which one of them the Negro puts his trust in. He always ends up in the dog house----MALCOLM X (from his speech called, God’s Judgment of White America)

 

[Paniro187]

I wouldn't listen to that guy... but I would listen to this one...

The white liberal differs from the white conservative only in one way. The liberal is more deceitful than the conservative. The liberal is more hypocritical than the conservative. Both want power, but the white liberal is the one who has perfected the art of posing as the Negro’s friend and benefactor, and by winning the friendship and support of the Negro, the white liberal is able to use the Negro as a pawn or tool in this political football game. Politically the American Negro is nothing but a football, and the white liberals control this mentally dead ball. Through tricks of tokenism and false promises, and they have the willing cooperation of Negro leaders. These leaders sell out our people for just a few crumbs of token recognition and token gains-----MALCOLM X ( from his speech called, God’s Judgment of White America)


The white conservatives aren’t friends of the Negro either, but at least they don’t try to hide it. They are like wolves, they show you their teeth in a snarl. That always keep the Negro aware of where he stands with them, but the white liberals are foxes who show their teeth to the Negro also, but they pretend they’re smiling. The white liberal is more dangerous than the conservative. They lure the Negro, and as the Negro runs from the growling wolf. He flees into the open jaws of the smiling fox. The job of the Negro leaders is to make the Negro forget that the wolf and fox belong to the same canine family, and no matter which one of them the Negro puts his trust in. He always ends up in the dog house----MALCOLM X (from his speech called, God’s Judgment of White America)

Powerful! Like I said in another post.

Republicans are a visible snake and the democrats are the snake in the grass

Repped

 

[andreboba]

I wouldn't listen to that guy... but I would listen to this one...

The white liberal differs from the white conservative only in one way. The liberal is more deceitful than the conservative. The liberal is more hypocritical than the conservative. Both want power, but the white liberal is the one who has perfected the art of posing as the Negro’s friend and benefactor, and by winning the friendship and support of the Negro, the white liberal is able to use the Negro as a pawn or tool in this political football game. Politically the American Negro is nothing but a football, and the white liberals control this mentally dead ball. Through tricks of tokenism and false promises, and they have the willing cooperation of Negro leaders. These leaders sell out our people for just a few crumbs of token recognition and token gains-----MALCOLM X ( from his speech called, God’s Judgment of White America)


The white conservatives aren’t friends of the Negro either, but at least they don’t try to hide it. They are like wolves, they show you their teeth in a snarl. That always keep the Negro aware of where he stands with them, but the white liberals are foxes who show their teeth to the Negro also, but they pretend they’re smiling. The white liberal is more dangerous than the conservative. They lure the Negro, and as the Negro runs from the growling wolf. He flees into the open jaws of the smiling fox. The job of the Negro leaders is to make the Negro forget that the wolf and fox belong to the same canine family, and no matter which one of them the Negro puts his trust in. He always ends up in the dog house----MALCOLM X (from his speech called, God’s Judgment of White America)

Are you fucking serious???

WHich Malcolm X are you repping?? The one who believed all White people were born of the Devil and were a stain on human civilization??

Or the Malcolm who left the Nation of Islam because he no longer agreed with their teachings, such as that drivel you just posted, went on hajj to Mecca and came back with a new insight that ALL men are brothers???


Don't cherry pick the man's life story to fuel the ranting of the far right that Blacks are living on a liberal plantation.

If there were no liberals and the one party in this country was Republican, we would ALL still be slaves.

Congratulations.

You just added another brick to Paniro's wall of ignorance.

Malcolm X at one point thought MLK was the biggest sellout too and the NOI was very much down for a race war if it came their way.

The same race war Charles Mansion was trying to kick off with the La Bianca and Sharon Tate murders.

 

[meowkittenmeow]

Are you fucking serious???

WHich Malcolm X are you repping?? The one who believed all White people were born of the Devil and were a stain on human civilization??

Or the Malcolm who left the Nation of Islam because he no longer agreed with their teachings, such as that drivel you just posted, went on hajj to Mecca and came back with a new insight that ALL men are brothers???


Don't cherry pick the man's life story to fuel the ranting of the far right that Blacks are living on a liberal plantation.

If there were no liberals and the one party in this country was Republican, we would ALL still be slaves.

Congratulations.

You just added another brick to Paniro's wall of ignorance.

Malcolm X at one point thought MLK was the biggest sellout too and the NOI was very much down for a race war if it came their way.

The same race war Charles Mansion was trying to kick off with the La Bianca and Sharon Tate murders.

And MLK beat the shit out of white prostitutes... doesn't mean that there isn't any truth to what he says.

 

[meowkittenmeow]

Powerful! Like I said in another post.

Republicans are a visible snake and the democrats are the snake in the grass

Repped

I think there is good and bad in both parties. I am more of a middle of the road guy. I don't agree with everything either side says, but I can agree with some things. I, however, won't pretend that liberals aren't just as racist as they conservatives they hate. I have experienced this, and even elaborated a bit on it in previous posts. But, like I mentioned before, I can agree on certain things from the conservatives and liberals depending on the subject. Even a broken clock is right twice a day...