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RaiderLL said:
You're right. An 18 year old who has school, car, ins, phone, housing, food, personal items, everything, bought and paid for, is not spoiled. Every young person should be raised to expect those things. No need to work princess, mommy and daddy will continue paving your gold brick lined path.

A lack of personal responsibility and the expectation that others will pay your way is the epitome of "spoiled" in my mind.
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At 18 trying to get an education. Why shouldn't you get help from family?
Besides there isn't only one way to parent
 
andreboba said:
Trump takes credit for things he never really did.
The TTP was never ratified by Congress nor signed by Obama. It was only in the negotiation stages.
How did Trump repair our 'damaged' relationship with Israel??lol
It was never really damaged in a practical, military, or diplomatic sense anyway. Netanyahu, Israel's version of a higher functioning Trump, is playing nice with the DOnald because that Black man Netanyahu could not respect with his Muslim sounding name is finally out of office and now right wingers in Israel can continue with more settlements, which eventually will spark the next intifada.
When Donald said he would deport illegal immigrants with violent criminal records, that was red meat for his base but didn't mean anything, since the majority of illegals don't have violent criminal felony records.

And if an Islamic terrorist tries to come to the USA, more than likely they will be a European citizen, so the ban on refugees from the ME is just stupid.
The United States created the Syrian refugee crisis if you trace it back all the way to the Iraq war. We owe those people more than saying, 'my bad.'
I remember as a kid in the 1980s all the Iranian refugees we took in after the fall of the Shah when everyone thought Iranians militants islamists and hostage takers.
Not ONE of them ever committed any terrorist acts in this country.

The biggest joke of all however is Trump wants to increase military spending, yet you claim he also wants to end wasteful military spending.
Um, most of the wasteful military spending comes from the billions we spend on private contractors. There used to be a time when the armed forces were a self contained entity and didn't hire private corporations to do everything they used to do for themselves.
The problem with military spending is simply the raw amount we spend in total on private contractors, not some billions in unaccounted for waste.
Most of Trump's executive orders are empty promises anyway since many require the approval and funding from Congress.
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You write so much in your posts l feel like the forum needs a vocal conversation lounge because responding to you takes incriments.
So I'm just going to do one or two points and some later .. it can sometimes get mentally draining because of the overall passion involved, lol.

Ok ..so you think Netanyahu just doesn't like Barack because of his name? Or were you being facetious...
Assuming the former, do you know of his allegiances towards Palestine?
Obama deliberately ordered to abstain from the UN Security Council's resolution to halt Settlement building - l know you have to know this. And that put the nail in the coffin for Israel.

Obama's Admin cited they just want a 2 state resolution - bs, he doesn't like Israel or Benjamin and never has as he no doubt sees Israel as occupiers. Israel is our ally, not Palestine.

Then to add (the final) insult to injury, Obama sent Palestine $221 million in his final hours on his last day in office (defying Congress's hold, btw).
He also sent them $4 million to use for "climate change programs" (please), and another $1.25 million for U.N. organizations.


But you know what? Trump is halting it. It still doesn't change the facts though.

One other thing...Obama sent $350,000.of taxpayers money to a group that used the money to build a campaign against Netanyahu in last year’s parliamentary elections. Interfere much?

Tbcl.
 
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There is no answer for the Israel/Palestinian question without a two state solution. Obama isn't a partisan or radical on this position, many Israelis hold the same belief as do most leaders around the world. Israel will never, and shouldn't have to, assimilate hundreds of thousands of Palestinians into the state of Israel.
But you can't have the Palestinians existing in limbo without a country.

When the UN designated the modern state of Israel in 1948, believe it or not there were people already there, even if they weren't an official nation state.
Besides, the level of disrespect Netanyahu has shown our former POTUS, he deserves no special consideration from Barack.

Netanyahu is an aggravation IMO to the policy makers in our State Department because he's such a rabid nationalist and couldn't give a damn about a two state solution, which is why he continues with more settlements in contested land that would be a part of any two state agreement.
Israel is no longer the victim here anymore. In fact they more than the Palestinians have the resources and diplomatic pull to negotiate a two state solution.

Netanyahu was an idiot for repeatedly disrespecting and insulting the president of the USA, Israels' only true ally in the world. ANd without our foreign and military aid they would not be a regional power in the ME.

Besides that, Netanyahu is a racist. Period. Obama as a person doesn't owe him anything, which doesn't mean the former POTUS changed the United States' foreign policy towards Israel in any meaningful way.
 
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I wonder how they will ever come to an agreement on Jerusalem which is holy in both religions and the dome of the rock which is in a location that has major significance in both faiths.
 
Both the state of Palestine and the state of Israel need to have their capital be located in Jerusalem. Won't ever happen though.
 
K said:
I know plenty of Republicans (even many Black people who are Republicans *GASP*) and I really know of no one who has gone to battle for Trump and rationalize the things he says and does as much as Bliss has.

I am really trying (TRYING) to stay open about the possibilities of this guy and I do tend to lean towards the conservative side....hard not to when you've been an entrepreneur for most of your life. But to out and out defend the obnoxious things that are said is crazy to me. I've said things because I'm really trying (TRYING) to figure it out and give the benefit of doubt and sortof a wait and see what the actions that actually happen are. I also have this thing about trying to figure out what the strategy really is with him (not just where he's coming from and plans to do, but the puppet masters who put him there) I have all sorts of thoughts and wondering if maybe he's like a shock jock and says the most outrageous things to get people all stirred up and then when he backs up a bit they won't freak out over what he really ends up doing. There just has to be more to it all then face value.
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Black Republican should be an oxymoron. As a block group they overwhelmingly either hate brown people or are completely indifferent to anything that happens to them while claiming to be pro life Christians. Awful people
 
Bliss said:
Oh give me a break. Trump has every right to defend himself. Those smartasses thought (and think) they can say what insults they want to, and he won't respond. Dream on. Every last one of them got a rude awakening. He's not your pussy politician, so if you come for him he's swinging back. It's not bullying to defend himself, it's bloody refreshing!
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It's refreshing that an adult who is the leader of the free world takes time away from running the country to respond to insults?
I'm sure if Obama did it you would have been fine with it lol.
And the vast majority of his insults are brought on by his plain as day lying. He seriously spent time trying to prove that he had one of the biggest inaugural crowds in history.
What kind of man argues that much about something we can all see with our eyes?
It's just plain weird man
 
Bliss said:
The DOW hit 20,000. A record right? Isn't that consumer confidence right there?
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Ahhh someone doesn't remember the 08 crash huh.
That's trading based on movement. Movement doesn't always mean consumer involvement movement can and right now means shares being bought and sold bringing the money of small fish investors who will lose their shirts once the mass sell offs occur.
In other words it's bait to bring in people who have delusions of getting rich while the rich people make money off of them.
 
samson1701 said:
Anyone here with Arabic names in real life getting nervous?
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Americans associate Muslim with non-black Middle-eastern Arab. So I don't think African American Muslims have to worry. I am wondering about non-AA black Muslims like Somalians though.
 
Beasty said:
I have no idea why Donald Chump has to defend himself when Bliss already does it for him.
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It is so weird that this behavior is acceptable. Politics aside do you think it makes sense that adult who is running the country handles disputes the way a 14 year old girl would?
 
No idea why Chump wears a suit and tie. With the way he behaves, why not wear jogging suits and tennis shoes everyday in the oval office. Won't make a bit of difference.
 
ColiBreh1 said:
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Americans associate Muslim with non-black Middle-eastern Arab. So I don't think African American Muslims have to worry. I am wondering about non-AA black Muslims like Somalians though.
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That's true. But, I was thinking more in terms of traveling where they're just looking at your name on a computer screen and what not.
 
andreboba said:
The biggest joke of all however is Trump wants to increase military spending, yet you claim he also wants to end wasteful military spending.
Um, most of the wasteful military spending comes from the billions we spend on private contractors. There used to be a time when the armed forces were a self contained entity and didn't hire private corporations to do everything they used to do for themselves.
The problem with military spending is simply the raw amount we spend in total on private contractors, not some billions in unaccounted for waste.
Most of Trump's executive orders are empty promises anyway since many require the approval and funding from Congress.
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Well, while the Dems and Soros's minions were iprotesting in ignorance at JFK last night, Trump was actually busy on the phones negotiating with Lockheed Martin to lower their prices on military planes.
They agreed, so look for the taxpayer savings announcement soon.

You saying there is no "unnacounted for waste" in Military spending is actually the "biggest joke", AB. There are a plethora of pork barrel examples l could list for you that amounted to billions and billions of wasteful spending.

Trump wants increases in vital areas of the military that were hallowed and he plans to offset that by eliminating wasteful spending in the govt worker sector and overpriced contracts, for starters.

You can kid yourself that it's just empty promises, meanwhile the President has not deferred from acting on his pledges to wanting to bring jobs and cut wasteful spending and uphold our national security laws, but you and Beasty and TDK and Samson and Since and DNY apparently insist he is a failure from the start rather than support him or even wait and see, all because you don't like that he tweets rude things back to his haters and said crude lockerroom comments. That's actually what makes no sense to me. Not my defending Trump's policies. I'm for America and (it's safety and security) <~~~~ first.
Not other countries, America.

All the rest can take a back seat. And that goes for the deflective "outrage" at his personality garbage ,as well.
 
The Dark King said:
It's refreshing that an adult who is the leader of the free world takes time away from running the country to respond to insults?
I'm sure if Obama did it you would have been fine with it lol.
And the vast majority of his insults are brought on by his plain as day lying. He seriously spent time trying to prove that he had one of the biggest inaugural crowds in history.
What kind of man argues that much about something we can all see with our eyes?
It's just plain weird man
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Actually, Obama did respond a lot of the time. He did it in speeches and at gatherings. Defending yourself whether by tweet or at the podium..is the same thing.

I agree that Trump's crowd in person was not the biggest, but there was way more than when that pic was taken. CNN by their own doing, posted a 360 d shot that clearly shows more people, or appears to be more, than the arial shot shown.

Also, as was noted, when you combine all viewership from devices and tv, etc, the numbers are indeed very high.
But as for attendance in Washington DC on the Monument, Obama had the most. Pretty sure most every resident from the DMV made their way there that day to see Obama sworn in.

As l noted in earlier posts, you really have no leg to stand on with your complaint that he "takes time away from running the country" to tweet - have you seen the time he's put into our country in just his first week?
 
Bliss said:
You can kid yourself that it's just empty promises, meanwhile the President has not deferred from acting on his pledges to wanting to bring jobs and cut wasteful spending and uphold our national security laws, but you and Beasty and TDK and Samson and Since and DNY apparently insist he is a failure from the start rather than support him or even wait and see, all because you don't like that he tweets rude things back to his haters and said crude lockerroom comments. That's actually what makes no sense to me. Not my defending Trump's policies. I'm for America and (it's safety and security) <~~~~ first.
Not other countries, America.
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Wait and see for him to do what? Ban and entire religion from entering the country? Deprive millions of people of healthcare? Appoint judges who undo marriage equality? Make split-second decisions based on what looks and sounds good rather what will actually work for the country long term? Wait for him to keep acting like a thin-skinned infant who keeps having to remind everyone in earshot at all times how awesome he is and how big his "crowds" are?

And for the last time, bragging about sexual assault isn't a "crude locker room comment," it's bragging about sexual assault. Having been in a men's locker room before I can promise you that kind of talk isn't that common. And it isn't about the fact that he tweets "rude things" it's about the fact that the 70 year old commander in chief of the armed forces handles conflicts and insults like he's still in middle school.

Donald J. Trump is a sexist, racist, corrupt, willfully ignorant clown and having him as President makes this country look like we've lost our damn minds. As you can tell from the comments on this thread, I'm not the only one who feels that way. If you want to keep being Trump's press secretary then fine, have at it. But until Trump himself changes his own behavior then you trying to spin his words and actions is going to keep being an uphill battle.
 
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