reasons why I exclusively date interacially (PLEASE RESPOND)

It's another way of saying, "You're Damn Right!"

A little U.S. slang.........

So instead of saying, "You're damn right!"
People say, "Ya' damn skippy!"

 

ok thanks. Lol. I thought you was calling me something. Phew !

 

I spent my childhood in an environment where I was surrounded mostly by white people. Most of my classmates were white. Most of my teammates for sports like swimming, basketball and volleyball were white. And though my closest friends were black, I socialized with a lot of white people.

So I learned quickly just how attractive white women can be and fell in love with a few, though I always had an attraction for women of all colours. My mom wanted the best for me, which includes being loved by the right woman, whether she be black or not.

It was when I began high school that I noticed a difference in how black women treated me --- like as if I didn't matter or they were too good to be with me. Yet, other women showed me enough interest. I even defended black women to my female friends of all colours who had been mistreated by them.

Even in university, I got approval only from a few and those ones made it clear that I need to change in order to meet their increasingly high expectations. Yet, other women's interest in me only grew. The straw that broke camel's back came for me when I saw that after graduation when I saw that their treatment had not changed.

When I say that I only date outside of my colour, I mean that I have stopped dating black women (and not that I just started dating white women). And why shouldn't I when even a fraction of the non-black women who would date me is more than the black women who would ever look my way?

So, I have dated white and other types of women, long before you posted that comment. White women are not my last resort because I'm a "reject" of black women. If being a "reject" means that I'm educated, intelligent, articulate , approachable, agreeable, pleasant ..., then I gladly accept that title because it's a kingly one. What does it then say about the black women who overlook me?

 

This post is by far the most intelligent I have ever come across about why many black men date only IR. Keep them coming. I look forward to your next one.

 

Yes it does say a lot, unfortunatelly.

I agree with your mother in dating "the best for me, which includes being loved by the right woman, whether she be black or not", applied to BW also, if you come across a good one. I find a little weird this exclusivity thing because it presumes not giving a chance to a certain group of people, BW, even if some of them might be good people.
But yet again, Ive never even lived in USA or communities with black people so I cant say Ive experienced or even witnessed what you have gone through from BW. Just my opinion that everyone should keep their options open and not shut some particular group off because not all BW can be like this just like not all non-BW are good.

 

The choice of perspective is yours! Choose well!

You must understand that whenever I get attention from black women, the thing that runs through my mind that the most is ... does she wants me for who I am or what I have? The question always arises in dating, but especially with black women.

For every non-black woman who has complimented me on my looks, brains and heart and accepted me for who I am (and I have had many), I have met a black woman who has shunned me or judged me only on what I had. In the next posts, I'll share 2 examples with you which should help you understand my point of view.

Face the facts: most people (especially black men) know that finding someone good who will appreciate and support them is probably the life's hardest challenge. That is why we have expanded our dating horizons where we don't need to consider black women.

In a world where many would rather see us kill each other before we can make something of ourselves or would rather hurt us than help us, I want someone who will stand by my side when things go wrong or get rough. Not someone who will stay loyal to me only when it suits them and leave at the first sign of trouble. Not all black women fit this profile, but far too many for good black men like me to ignore. Since a few black men said that mainly North American black women are the guilty ones, I'll exempt black women from outside North America. So I'll restrict my comments to black women living in North America, since I have had almost all my experience with them.

Much of the world already has low expectations of black people (and especially black men) and much higher barriers to our advancement. We, black men, who work in corporate North America can relate all too well. So, when we return to the comfort of our relationships, the last thing we want is more stress and for someone to tell us whom he should date when we have worked so hard to get opportunity and choice.

Sometimes, open-mindness is not the virtue that is too often been esteemed to be, particularly when it comes to dealing with certain types of people. So rather than thinking of me as being close-minded to a group of women, many of whom who have regularly proved that they don't value me like they should, I would prefer that you appreciate my open-mindness in dating inter-racially. Which is more than either of us can say about much of the American people.

The choice of perspective is yours. Choose well!

 

A story about black women's treatment of me

About a year ago, a white female friend, her fiance and parents came from out of town to throw a baby shower for me and her other local friends. Since I couldn't go, I ate brunch with them the next day instead.

Arriving late, I found them that they had already started eating the buffet.
When I entered the room where they sat, I noticed several pairs of eyes fixate on me from the back of the room. It's a group of young black women of all different skin tones, sizes and looks. Even as I took a seat, I noticed through my peripheral vision that they hadn't dropped their dirty stares.

Where I sat just so happened to be right next to my white friend who was pregnant at the time. After leaving the table to get some food, I returned to the same seat. I began speaking French to her and her family since it was their first language.

On my way to a second plate, one of the black women approached me. She said that she couldn't forget my face from high school 10 years ago, but I didn't remember her. We couldn't even come up with one common friend.

In typical interview style, the woman started asking me about my education, my career, my current job ... in an attempt to judge me. I answered her questions without hesitation because the answers would do her no good because I had no interest in her.

As I filled my second plate, she returned to her table to share her notes with her crew. While getting food, I noticed one of her friends watching me as if she wanted to say something to me. I was too hungry to be bothered with this situation, so I returned to my table.

To be continued ...

 

My previous story continued ...

My previous story continued below ...

Eating at the table again, I felt the glares and whispering in the background. Another of the black women with her friend walked past my table and stopped to wait for me to look at her, but I continued with my table conversations.

When I went for my final plate, the first black women intercepted me again asking me whether my pregnant friend was my fiance, and about my marital status (I've never married), children (none) and what I look for in a woman. She "promised" to keep a lookout for a good black woman for me, but never asked my phone #. I guess she wrongfully assumed I would offer my mine or pry hers.

After finishing my final plate, I wanted to pay my part of the bill in cash to make things easy for everyone, though the restaurant would have accepted my credit card. As I stood up to leave for the nearest bank machine, I dropped the napkin from my lap to the floor. As I turned around to place it on the table, I noticed that all the black women had zoomed in on my a$$. Minutes later when I returned, they had all already left.

This and many other similar experiences has taught me:

1) Many black women believe that only a few good black men exist and
when they meet one, they don't know how to react.

2) Usually they wait for other women to show interest in you
before they notice you.

3) Upon meeting you, they instantly typecast you and judge to see
what level you're at.

4) They don't care about your potential, only about
your accomplishments.

5) When they meet one who is attracted to them, but they're not to him
or one that interests them, but doesn't feel the same way, they can't
just be friends.

6) If they like you, they're either passive or aggressive, not assertive.

If your experiences have been better, then I'd happy for (and envy) you.

 

Well Genuine and Nilan and all the BM here who exclusively date IR, I do appreciate your open-mindness in doing so, just wish your open-mindness about dating IR

wouldnt have to be justified so much (But as I've read so far it seems like in US there's something wrong with you if you dont date a BW). Nilan said he doesnt feel obligated to date BW since BW do this and that. Was he ever obligated? I guess yes, due to the societal pressures of dating within your own race.

wouldnt come from the fact that most BW have wrong criterias in choosing a mate, because it is sad to think that IR wouldnt have expended and came to the level it is today otherwise (wish it would come out of genuine sympathy and attraction to a woman who happens to be of another race, or even physical attraction to other races of women as well). This kind of statement gives the impression that IR is indeed an abnormality, as many want to think, not a prefference or open-mindness towards other races to start with. Its like "there's something wrong with your race or with you, or you wouldnt be dating IR". I dont like it. Id like to think people would have come to date IR anyway.

your open-mindness would apply to BW also. Of course, thats your choice and I'm not here to judge or blame anyone even more so now when I understood your situation and your posts seem like common sense and valid points to me, everyone decides for himself.

 

I completely agree with you Seychelles.
I get the feeling that some BM date non-black women, simply because they don't like BW.

It's almost as though it is a negative instead of a positive - know what I mean?

I date BM because I prefer BM, but I have never ever said anything bad against WM - because there is no need. I have not "turned" to BM because of negative experiences with WM. For me, BM are not the next best option! They are my FIRST choice - and only for positive reasons.

Also, I have never been in the shoes of the BM on the site and I have absolutely NO IDEA what it's like to go through the world as a BM, however, the amount of generalization here concerning BW really is disheartening.

I don't know... maybe I'm just seeing things through my WW eyes, with my WW privilege.

 

Yes, much racism still exists in North America (including Canada). It's not going to stop us from dating outside our race. In general, society already looks down on us anyway, so why should we care about what it thinks about our dating styles?

As I mentioned before, I have already given BW enough chances. Society burdens me enough already without me letting it decide who should make me happy.

For the millionth and last time, the men on this site who date inter-racially only including Nilan and myself were attracted to non-black women long before we stopped dating BW! In fact, during university, I dated a white woman, very pretty and very smart one at that.

Initially, most people's preference is to date someone of their own colour for various reasons. That fact says nothing about their openness to date outside their colour. For me, WW are one of many equal choices, not my first or my last.

No matter who you are, you want to be with someone who validates you as a person. For some people, it's a person of the same colour, culture or religion. For the most enlightened people, they want someone who shares their beliefs, values, goals, interests, and will appreciate and support them. Either way, a man's validation comes from women whom he considers to "be like him".

As I have matured, I have realized that validation doesn't have to come from BW, but from the type of women that I can relate to and admire, and will support and appreciate me. So, when a BW likes me, but shares absolutely nothing in common with me other than her skin co lour, I don't feel flattered. But, when a woman of any colour (even black) who is attractive, intelligent and genuinely kind shows me genuine interest, I feel honoured. When this type of woman likes me, then I know that I'm doing something right, and to keep doing it and improve my ways because eventually, I'll find my match.

It just so happens that for me 95% of the time, this type of attraction comes from non-black women. In my case, several WW, some Indian women, a few LW and at least one AW. I have kicked myself in the head for not acting upon it sooner.

In summary:

1) I don't suffer from low self-confidence.
2) I don't hate BW because of my mom is a good one. (I wish more black women in my generation were like her.)
3) I don't date WW as a last resort.

Yes, it does extend to BW, but only those from outside North America, since I have not had enough negative experiences with them yet.

 

Same here Pearlgirl, I have not turned to BM because of negative experiences with WM. In fact Id date anyone who has a good character, is educated, fun, bit sarcastic at times, I can connect with and so on (anyways, dont want to make this a post about what I am looking for in a guy), just please God don't let him be Asian (I dont like Asian features). Was just wondering how many of the BM would date interracially if they had had positive experiences with BW.
But I guess I got my answer: Genuine "For the millionth and last time, the men on this site who date inter-racially only including Nilan and myself were attracted to non-black women long before we stopped dating BW! "

ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok !

 

I can't lurk anymore...

and, these conversations seem to have absolutely no end, and what good do they even do for interracial relationships involving black men and white women?

I think I can write the script for the next Tired Black Man movie now. Let's see, if memory serves me right, it should contain stuff like this:



The black men will engage the white women somewhere, somehow in a conversation or 2, about why they are attracted to white women and how, which will most likely be brought up by the white women. This will then lead to the black men explaining over and over, and over again their reasons for their choices, which are for the most part, legitimate and well-thought out arguments, and then only a couple of jokers will enter into the scene at some point in time, and start making a bunch of nonsensical generalizations about black women, only to put 'white pussy on a pedestal.'



Such an act will then cause the white girls to freak out and pout, and then start whining about how all these guys must surely 'hate all black women', and 'only have white girl fetishes', therefore all of the black men's points and viewpoints are suddenly thrown out of the window now. This will in fact, make some anti-black male loving black women, (who could be undoubtedly lurking the boards right now as we speak) come out of hiding, only to join in with the naive and neurotic white women in their black male slandering. Along with all of this, some white males, who happen to overhear (or read ) the discussion, will be overjoyed to still know that they are, and always will be, considered 'top priority', because of the *cough* instinctive 'nature and habits' of black men.



When these actions take place, along with all of them will include the following:



- white men coming out of hiding about their interracial fetishes to see a white women being ripped apart like a rag doll by black bulls (mostly their girlfriends and wives)



- crazy ass white supremacist men, who will operate on sheer emotion regarding their opinions about black men being with white women, but then still feel that it is their white privilege to date and have sex with black women with or without their (or even our) consent



- crazy ass black women, who will operate on sheer emotion regarding their opinions about black men being with white women, but then still feel that it is their duty as a 'strong and empowered sista' to 'keep these House Niggaz in check', though they seem to prefer the commonly mentioned 'no-good' types over us, and will dismiss all of our traits which they claim to find more desirable in us for the selected group among us who do not seem to possess such traits found attractive in us to other ethnic groups of women, which will then cause more angry, overly defensive, and paranoid insecurity projected back-and-forth among us in the midst of insanely repetitive discussions and debates



- crazy ass white women, who will operate on sheer emotion regarding their opinions about black men being with white women, but then still feel that it is their duty and white privilege to uphold the so-called virtue and strength of their Nubian counterparts, and that their attraction to black men is simply just their prerogative and nothing more, but could care less what everyone else thinks, especially their friends/family (YEAH, RIGHT, OH, %$#in' PLEASE) about black men, especially if they were to find a 'good ol' white man' or 2, (maybe 3, or 3 dozen) somehow, somewhere, (someway) and because of all this, the (mostly young) black male bastards should be grateful that there are 'just a lil' bit' of 'wonderful' white ladies out there, who would even remotely want them or whatever (as if it's some kind of miraculous act of what's-his-name, I forget it) and that if the black men don't desire them as much as they desire the black men, then those particular men are obviously racist and are only after sex with white bitches and nothing more, which constitutes an 'Uppity Negro Syndrome' or something of the matter, and not having a white girl fetish simply implies as well as concludes that these men are only seeking revenge on the sistas, and that they are just shallow pigs who are only in search of some good white pussy to walk all over



-crazy ass black men with white girl fetishes, who can't contend to any logical senses amongst black men who do not have such a said chemical imbalance, and are easily coerced and brainwashed by the likes of said individuals mentioned above, in order to safely and easily act out the fetish with or without the consent of the said individuals mentioned above



- crazy and dumb-ass Asians and Latinos, who will demonstrate a combination of all of the individuals against black man in a particular fashion mentioned above but will still feel that interracial dating/marriage is okay by their own standards when it involves one of them, whether or not a (undoubtedly young) black male is out of the picture altogether



NOW, the trickiest part will be the casting, since everything else will be a breeze.

 

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat????????
I guess you have a problem with me, since your post has been determined by me posting a lot on this topic lately. Naive and neurotic huh? Thanks. I will say nothing to my defense, if thats all you understood from my questions, then so be it.

 

You just did say something to your defensive, which is what I expected of you anyway, and if I had a problem with you in particular, then I would've said so, and what I wrote was something to emphasize a point about these kind of conversations being held again and again here in the forums. They don't seem to help the site at all, and only attract more lame drama to the forums, so you can interpret my post however you want to, but I still stand by it.

 

Fine. I still stand by my point too. I would like BM to like us and notice us for us, because we are women too, we are beautiful, intelligent and so on too, and when these kind of posts "I date non-BW because BW are like this and like that" appear, they sound like anything else but that. What Genuine said, that he and other BM were attracted to non -BW anyway, sounded right to me, and not like we're a last resort or the next best option and I was gonna leave it at that. But you have to come and call everyone names and get mad for dsicussing! Well dont read what annoys you anymore !

 

Hey, Hey, Hey people, where is the love? Everyone stay calm and let me try to clarify and diffuse this bomb of a topic. (With my cool ass. 8) )

What's Up Seychelles? What’s up Pearlgirl? What's up Genuine?

First of all, I have GOT to give a special shout-out to my man Genuine!!!!!!
:smt038 :smt038 :smt038 :smt038

Thanks for sharing your experiences at that brunch gathering.......
Always nice to hear from one of the fellas that know EXACTLY where I am coming from in this, and has the hardcore experience to prove that what is happening is not just a phase or something that is happening to just a few black men, but a revolution and a sign of the times.......

Seychelles and Pearlgirl,
Big shout out to you as well 8) for trying to understand. I see that you are starting to get where we are coming from, but then again, you are still a little confused or something. You still seem to feel that we (BM) who only date interracially should be as openminded with BW as well........

And you are somewhat on point with that, but there are some harsh realities that women are unaware of, so allow me to come at you at another angle.............

I will humor you (Seychelles and Pearlgirl) and leave ethnicity out of the picture for the moment and break it down on an entire human race level. On a basic level of a starting a relationship, MEN are the persuers and WOMEN are the choosers. So ultimately, it is the WOMAN who chooses the man she will date, marry, have sex with, or have children with. Women don't choose men that don't provide or have anything to offer, whether it be good looks, money, or whatever. THIS IS REALITY.

Women can get away and live a glamorous life just by being pretty, (most) men can’t do that.

Even if the women themselves have nothing to offer, they still WILL NOT choose men who are not established. THIS IS REALITY.

So what am I saying, "MEN (9 TIMES OUT OF 10) WILL NOT GET A WOMAN TO NOTICE HIM UNLESS HE BRINGS SOMETHING TO THE TABLE, DESPITE WHETHER SHE CAN CONTRIBUTE TO THE TABLE OR NOT BECAUSE ALL WOMEN HAVE TO DO IS LOOK GOOD."

This is the reality of the world....

Now let's change this around to show you where we are coming from...
In the U.S. culture (in despite of ethnic groups of black, white, asian, whatever), men that work hard to acheive success are not seen as attractive....women that work hard to achieve success can still be considered attractive moreso often than men;
Whereas men are seen as nerdy, outcasts, and nobodies. WOMEN TEND TO BE ABLE TO ESCAPE THE NEGATIVE EFFECTS OF BEING DIFFERENT, HARD-WORKING, NERDY, ETC. IF THEY ARE CUTE, BUT NOT GUYS. This is not true in all cases, but this is the norm. So when these men actually reach their goals and become successful, they remember in junior high, high school, college, and their young adult years when women would not even consider them for a date. These guys look at the world and women completely different than your average guy and your average pretty boy who has never had problems with women....like my man Genuine said, you wonder if they want you for what you have instead of because of who you are. These men have character and a strong sense of justice, unfortunately, these are the men that are the most unappreciated and they become tired of it.

NOW, for the home stretch, let's bring ethnicity into the mix......
What you have to understand, Seychelles and Pearlgirl, is that in the black community, all of what I said earlier (you know the stuff about reality, men being persuers, and women above) apply. There is one thing makes it harder for us (black men) though, and it is something that we (blacks) make a huge part of......

THE IMFAMOUS HIP-HOP CULTURE. Don't get me wrong, hip-hop culture is a good thing, but it has some very negative and regressive aspects to it that hurt more than help. Black Men are not seen as desirable unless they are ballin' out of control (have a lot of money), have a huge house, mercedes vehicles, tattooed down, street hustlers, players, and the like from these hip-hop videos. The good black men are totally ignored, bullied, and ostracized for not being like these thugs and gansters. OTHER ETHNIC GROUPS OF WOMEN (NOT ALL BY ANY MEANS) DON'T HOLD BLACK MEN TO THESE RIDICULOUS BOUNDARIES, THEY WANT YOU TO JUST BE A MAN AND WORK FOR YOUR GOALS, BLACK WOMEN WANT YOU ONLY AFTER YOU HAVE ACHEIVED THESE GOALS.

Now for me, personally, that does not matter because I have always preferred non-black women because they look so much more exotic to me.....I won't go to far into that because I don't want to start a barrage of attacks from ABW (Angry Black Women) on here. The thing is though, is that I wasn’t exposed to women of white, Spanish, Dominican, etc. girls until I got to college, so black women was all I knew….Seychelles and Pearlgirl, I am sure that you were at a point in your life at one time when white men were all you knew until you got that exposure to Black men. That is how it was for a lot of us here too so don’t think that white women were not our first choice…..

So Seychelles and Pearlgirl, when these men reach their goals, they remember in junior high, high school, college, and their young adult years when women would not even consider them for a date. Later in life, they will only date women that will accept them and that can contribute more to a relationship than just looks.....

I hope I hit home with this looooooooooooooooooong post. And to the BW (BLACK WOMEN) that may read this, remember, you get more flies with honey, than you do with vinegar and that there is no love lost........

Peace out!!!!

 

You shouldn't post in topics that annoy you either...

and, since you think I'm calling everyone names, please point out who exactly am I calling names to, if you can.

And, I don't care where you started to leave it at, seeing is how you can't seem to make up your mind about it altogether.

 

Once again for those of you that missed it!!!!!!!!!

Hey, Hey, Hey people, where is the love? Everyone stay calm and let me try to clarify and diffuse this bomb of a topic. (With my cool ass. 8) )

What's Up Seychelles? What’s up Pearlgirl? What's up Genuine?

First of all, I have GOT to give a special shout-out to my man Genuine!!!!!!


Thanks for sharing your experiences at that brunch gathering.......
Always nice to hear from one of the fellas that know EXACTLY where I am coming from in this, and has the hardcore experience to prove that what is happening is not just a phase or something that is happening to just a few black men, but a revolution and a sign of the times.......

Seychelles and Pearlgirl,
Big shout out to you as well for trying to understand. I see that you are starting to get where we are coming from, but then again, you are still a little confused or something. You still seem to feel that we (BM) who only date interracially should be as openminded with BW as well........

And you are somewhat on point with that, but there are some harsh realities that women are unaware of, so allow me to come at you at another angle.............

I will humor you (Seychelles and Pearlgirl) and leave ethnicity out of the picture for the moment and break it down on an entire human race level. On a basic level of a starting a relationship, MEN are the persuers and WOMEN are the choosers. So ultimately, it is the WOMAN who chooses the man she will date, marry, have sex with, or have children with. Women don't choose men that don't provide or have anything to offer, whether it be good looks, money, or whatever. THIS IS REALITY.

Women can get away and live a glamorous life just by being pretty, (most) men can’t do that.

Even if the women themselves have nothing to offer, they still WILL NOT choose men who are not established. THIS IS REALITY.

So what am I saying, "MEN (9 TIMES OUT OF 10) WILL NOT GET A WOMAN TO NOTICE HIM UNLESS HE BRINGS SOMETHING TO THE TABLE, DESPITE WHETHER SHE CAN CONTRIBUTE TO THE TABLE OR NOT BECAUSE ALL WOMEN HAVE TO DO IS LOOK GOOD."

This is the reality of the world....

Now let's change this around to show you where we are coming from...
In the U.S. culture (in despite of ethnic groups of black, white, asian, whatever), men that work hard to acheive success are not seen as attractive....women that work hard to achieve success can still be considered attractive moreso often than men;
Whereas men are seen as nerdy, outcasts, and nobodies. WOMEN TEND TO BE ABLE TO ESCAPE THE NEGATIVE EFFECTS OF BEING DIFFERENT, HARD-WORKING, NERDY, ETC. IF THEY ARE CUTE, BUT NOT GUYS. This is not true in all cases, but this is the norm. So when these men actually reach their goals and become successful, they remember in junior high, high school, college, and their young adult years when women would not even consider them for a date. These guys look at the world and women completely different than your average guy and your average pretty boy who has never had problems with women....like my man Genuine said, you wonder if they want you for what you have instead of because of who you are. These men have character and a strong sense of justice, unfortunately, these are the men that are the most unappreciated and they become tired of it.

NOW, for the home stretch, let's bring ethnicity into the mix......
What you have to understand, Seychelles and Pearlgirl, is that in the black community, all of what I said earlier (you know the stuff about reality, men being persuers, and women above) apply. There is one thing makes it harder for us (black men) though, and it is something that we (blacks) make a huge part of......

THE IMFAMOUS HIP-HOP CULTURE. Don't get me wrong, hip-hop culture is a good thing, but it has some very negative and regressive aspects to it that hurt more than help. Black Men are not seen as desirable unless they are ballin' out of control (have a lot of money), have a huge house, mercedes vehicles, tattooed down, street hustlers, players, and the like from these hip-hop videos. The good black men are totally ignored, bullied, and ostracized for not being like these thugs and gansters. OTHER ETHNIC GROUPS OF WOMEN (NOT ALL BY ANY MEANS) DON'T HOLD BLACK MEN TO THESE RIDICULOUS BOUNDARIES, THEY WANT YOU TO JUST BE A MAN AND WORK FOR YOUR GOALS, BLACK WOMEN WANT YOU ONLY AFTER YOU HAVE ACHEIVED THESE GOALS.

Now for me, personally, that does not matter because I have always preferred non-black women because they look so much more exotic to me.....I won't go to far into that because I don't want to start a barrage of attacks from ABW (Angry Black Women) on here. The thing is though, is that I wasn’t exposed to women of white, Spanish, Dominican, etc. girls until I got to college, so black women was all I knew….Seychelles and Pearlgirl, I am sure that you were at a point in your life at one time when white men were all you knew until you got that exposure to Black men. That is how it was for a lot of us here too so don’t think that white women were not our first choice…..

So Seychelles and Pearlgirl, when these men reach their goals, they remember in junior high, high school, college, and their young adult years when women would not even consider them for a date. Later in life, they will only date women that will accept them and that can contribute more to a relationship than just looks.....

I hope I hit home with this looooooooooooooooooong post. And to the BW (BLACK WOMEN) that may read this, remember, you get more flies with honey, than you do with vinegar and that there is no love lost........

Peace out!!!!

 

Nilan, I'm so tired. This will never end. I understood your point from long ago, including that you were attracted by non-BW anyway. Still I think you should ask yourself this question about any woman u meet (would she have wanted me back in the days) and not exclude the possibilty that even a BW might have wanted you, and just exclude all of them for that matter. But, you know best what you have gone through and its your prerogative to exclude a group or hold hard feelings even if I dont find it right. Or maybe you're just more attracted to non -BW. Either way, I'm done with this. Why dont we talk about sports shall we?