"she's not hip hop" says hip hop star

I can see what you're saying tho -- helps that you put it in that perspective. I'm thinking about that. It's good.

This is going to sound stupid but I remember hearing a white guy say something that sounded like he was jealous that black ball players have so much success. I remember thinking "JC, let them have baskeball." In other words, whites do have everything. And then we resent the few boys that take a mic or a ball and manage to get ahead. Why don't we let them have capital? lol
 
Ah the bliss of being white in America

I guess you have no problem with race representation in movies or tv either

:p

It is bliss being white in America. I never suggested to the contrary.

Race representation - whether in music or movies - is a whole 'nother subject. Not at all what I was talking about. I said "success measured by $". that's different than "representation"
 
Look, if you own something, don't be looking over your shoulder for who's gonna take it from you. Do you really believe white men can take your music? Come on. Ever heard of the Blues?
 
It is bliss being white in America. I never suggested to the contrary.

Race representation - whether in music or movies - is a whole 'nother subject. Not at all what I was talking about. I said "success measured by $". that's different than "representation"

Not really not when our political system literally allows money to be representative of a cause not actual people. The fight for capital will become even more fierce because of it
 
It is bliss being white in America. I never suggested to the contrary.

Race representation - whether in music or movies - is a whole 'nother subject. Not at all what I was talking about. I said "success measured by $". that's different than "representation"
Can I roll with you? Can I be down with you?
 
She's more about that life than I am. She left home at 16 for a foreign country. Spent years in the south observing how they do, and could easily emulate their styles. She's clearly a star. Nobody could tell me Onyx was about that life. They were barbers for god's sake.

Hip-Hop isn't so much about authenticity than it is creativity. We can't even say rap battles, the most consequential aspect of Hip-Hop, are based on authenticity. Yeah, if you're 'keeping it real', it's a plus, but imagination takes you a lot further. Rah Digga is nice and all, but she's jelly, plain and simple.

I could pack a tent and a hammock, go to Africa and spend years studying the Lions on the Serengeti. I could even learn to roar and lick my paw, but that doesn't make me 'about that lion life'.

Unfortunately for the many consumers, but fortunately for anybody looking to exploit hip hop, the industry has been watered down to the point that hip hop is no longer representative of 'that life'. I have officially turned into my parents, because I just cannot get into this bullshit y'all listen to these days. Most of it is not Hip Hop, it's Hip Pop.

Pfft Nicki Minaj... Iggy Izalea (or however the hell it's spelled)
 
I could pack a tent and a hammock, go to Africa and spend years studying the Lions on the Serengeti. I could even learn to roar and lick my paw, but that doesn't make me 'about that lion life'.

Unfortunately for the many consumers, but fortunately for anybody looking to exploit hip hop, the industry has been watered down to the point that hip hop is no longer representative of 'that life'. I have officially turned into my parents, because I just cannot get into this bullshit y'all listen to these days. Most of it is not Hip Hop, it's Hip Pop.

Pfft Nicki Minaj... Iggy Izalea (or however the hell it's spelled)

I've heard on the grapevine that you're all about the crunk.

Crunk and 80's romantic boy bands
 
I could pack a tent and a hammock, go to Africa and spend years studying the Lions on the Serengeti. I could even learn to roar and lick my paw, but that doesn't make me 'about that lion life'.

Unfortunately for the many consumers, but fortunately for anybody looking to exploit hip hop, the industry has been watered down to the point that hip hop is no longer representative of 'that life'. I have officially turned into my parents, because I just cannot get into this bullshit y'all listen to these days. Most of it is not Hip Hop, it's Hip Pop.

Pfft Nicki Minaj... Iggy Izalea (or however the hell it's spelled)

Realist shit you ever wrote
 
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I could pack a tent and a hammock, go to Africa and spend years studying the Lions on the Serengeti. I could even learn to roar and lick my paw, but that doesn't make me 'about that lion life'.

Unfortunately for the many consumers, but fortunately for anybody looking to exploit hip hop, the industry has been watered down to the point that hip hop is no longer representative of 'that life'. I have officially turned into my parents, because I just cannot get into this bullshit y'all listen to these days. Most of it is not Hip Hop, it's Hip Pop.

Pfft Nicki Minaj... Iggy Izalea (or however the hell it's spelled)

I get what you are saying but lets be honest

So what about the life "peter piper" by run dmv was representing or "the jam" by shabba ranks and krs one.
Tell me when sugar hill gang said "to the hip hop the hippity hop you dont stop to the bang bang boogie" they were what about that life?
Or when whodini did "5 minutes of funk" that was huh?

No one questioned any of these guys about being authentic
If that stuff came out today, according to these so-called purist of hip hop,..these guys would be sellouts.

Im tired of hear it doesnt represent that life. Im not about that life. Im a black man. Black men dont sell dope and glorify it or buy shit that does.
I buy music to dance to and have fun.
Public enemy is the only ones that was down like a bm in their shit.
If iggy came out in the 80s i dont think people wpuld have said too much of anything.
Personally im gonna go listen to fancy again in a sec...fuck all that shit.

Its just a few bw in the game mad at ww doing it up and getting love from the masses. They werent mad when whites were buying it.

They (nicki and digga) need to up their game.
Its bullshit about the " she dont write her own rhymes" argument
 
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I get what you are saying but lets be honest

So what about the life "peter piper" by run dmv was representing or "the jam" by shabba ranks and krs one.
Tell me when sugar hill gang said "to the hip hop the hippity hop you dont stop to the bang bang boogie" they were what about that life?
Or when whodini did "5 minutes of funk" that was huh?

No one questioned any of these guys about being authentic
If that stuff came out today, according to these so-called purist of hip hop,..these guys would be sellouts.

Im tired of hear it doesnt represent that life. Im not about that life. Im a black man. Black men dont sell dope and glorify it or buy shit that does.
I buy music to dance to and have fun.
Public enemy is the only ones that was down like a bm in their shit.
If iggy came out in the 80s i dont think people wpuld have said too much of anything.
Personally im gonna go listen to fancy again in a sec...fuck all that shit.

Its just a few bw in the game mad at ww doing it up and getting love from the masses. They werent mad when whites were buying it.

They (nicki and digga) need to up their game.
Its bullshit about the " she dont write her own rhymes" argument


When the Sugar Hill Gang dropped rappers delight, they caught a lot of shit because they weren't seen a real MCs. One, because the group was put together by Sylvia Robinson like a boy band. They didn't come together themselves like other crews back then. Two, Big Bank Hank bit his verse from Grandmaster Caz from Cold Crush's rhyme book, all the way down to the "I'm the C-A-S-A-N-O-V-A and the rest is F-L-Y", which was Caz's full stage name plus the Grandmaster. Whodini, Run-DMC, etc didn't catch shit about authenticity because they came together like other crews and created their own stuff. On top of that, a lot of MCs thought Rappers Delight was just a corny ass song.
 
I could pack a tent and a hammock, go to Africa and spend years studying the Lions on the Serengeti. I could even learn to roar and lick my paw, but that doesn't make me 'about that lion life'.

Unfortunately for the many consumers, but fortunately for anybody looking to exploit hip hop, the industry has been watered down to the point that hip hop is no longer representative of 'that life'. I have officially turned into my parents, because I just cannot get into this bullshit y'all listen to these days. Most of it is not Hip Hop, it's Hip Pop.

Pfft Nicki Minaj... Iggy Izalea (or however the hell it's spelled)

Im not shitting on whay u are saying but for me if she was rapping about trapping when she hasnt then yeah i gpt you. But she rapping bout drinking and her ass.
 
I forgot to address this part.

With all due respect...who gives a fuck about black women on this issue? Why do YOU give a fuck?

Let's get real. Black men have created far more genres of American music than any other group. They were at the forefront of blues, jazz, R 'n' b, rock 'n roll, soul, disco, rap. But despite that from the 1900s up to this day the group of vocalists who have been the most successful in terms of sales have been white men and black women. And it had nothing to do with talent. White men dominated because they ran everything, controlled everything and had to be at the center of everything. And they didn't share the spotlight with their women either. They kept their women under their thumb and thus huge white female music star was more of a rarity.

Black women had just the opposite experience. First of all black men weren't nearly as threatened by black women's forays into the music biz as white men apparently were of their own women doing so (the songs by bw that dealt with boastful celebrations of sexuality would have never been accepted by the white masses if they were coming from the mouths of white female singers). Second even if black men had been threatened it wouldn't matter as much because white men still controlled the industry and wouldn't think twice giving bw certain liberties that they would never allow their own womenfolk. But most importantly black females as singers have always been more readily accepted in white households (dominated by white men) more so than black male singers have been (there are exceptions of course). A black male singer who coos about love and love making has historically been seen as a threat that must be closely guarded (in other words it could give white female listeners ideas). During the golden era of jazz for example there were countless white male singers and black female singers who were given record deals and found success but very few white female singers and barely a trace of black male singers. The trend continued for decades even as the music changed (The Supremes were by far Motown's most successful act). There aren't any current black male singers with the same star power as Beyonce and Rhianna. Translation: black female singers have been significantly overrepresented in the music industry given their percentage in the overall population. No need to throw a pity party for them if some white chick gets some damn glory.


As of late white female singers have started to overrun the floodgates and have become some of the best selling artists. Even more important t his discussion, some have even dabbled in genres known to be dominated by blacks (soul music, rap) and have ended up finding lots of success even to a point of outselling black female artists. Basically beating them at their own game. And black women, who often come across as the most insecure entities on Earth can't handle it. These women were often silent if white male artists started outselling black men in so-called black genres. In fact the buying power of these women often played a hand in such results. But when it is white women who find major success in singing soul music or rapping, many of the black chicks start losing their shit and crying foul. Fuck....them. Welcome to OUR world, black ladies! We black dudes have been seeing white guys getting rich by appropriating traditionally black forms of music for an eternity and we do it with a little more dignity.

What makes it even more pathetic is that there are endless white gals who support or worship at the feet of black female performers in a manner that no self-respecting white dude would ever do when it comes to a black male artist. White chicks love them some Beyonce about as much as they love them some Oprah. But even that's not enough to cause black women to show equal reverence to a white female artist who has become successful in a black genre.
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That music is the main reason they even look at your black ass twice.
You sound like you just came to America from Bumfuckistan or some shit.

Jimi Hendrix wasn't a rapper and he was highly desired by WW.

Jazz Brothers were nailing WW long before this hip-hop trash came along.

What about that??
 
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