Snipers shoot multiple Dallas cops at Protest..Three have died

archangel said:
The police already have an impression that black people are dangerous. I don't think this is going to change that. What it does do is put them on guard in pursuing cases. You might be less likely to pursue something if you think it may get you on the news or killed.....which would have saved the last two guys and these current officers. Mean thing to say but that is what happened in NYC for a short time.
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A coordinated attack on police only serves to fuel and reinforce their fear of black people. Time and time again, it has been proven that the irrational fear of black people is why theses cops are so quick to go for their guns. This attack will lead to more 'shoot first ask questions later' scenarios. And that will cost more brothers and sisters their lives.
 
andreboba said:
If these vigilante shootings put the fear of God into local law enforcement nationwide and gets dirty cops finally charged, convicted and sent to prison, then raw violence did something the 'system' could not.

When White America thought this country was on the verge of a race war and major American cities going up in flames in the 1960s and '70s, violence brought about substantive legal and political changes.

Sometimes the powers in control need to be sent a stronger message than another mother/GF crying on TV and a bunch of 20somethings marching in circles.

Everyone says there's a problem with the corrupt culture of American law enforcement.

Corruption doesn't automatically change its ways out of a sense of justice and morality.

Cops, their unions, district attorneys and local politicians have to SEE it's in their own best interest to stop defending cops who murder innocent civilians.

It's not always enough to stand up to a bully to make him stop whupping your ass.

Sometimes you have to swing a bat upside the head of your tormenter for them to get the message to stop fucking with you.

No one is advocating killing cops in cold blood, but fuck, GENERATIONS of Black people have been raised to beware of the police...because an angry cop will shoot you down for no good reason and nobody will do a damn thing about it.

When I think about the thousands of Black men over the decades who were executed by cops across this country and nobody really except Black folk gave a damn, I just don't have the tears for a cop shot in the line of duty.

Every cop IMO works for quasi criminal organization.
When you do dirt to people and don't think anyone can touch you, you cheapen your own life.

Every Black man I know was taught growing up, be careful how you talk to cops.

Just talk.:(

Because as Black men, we KNOW if we simply say the wrong thing to the wrong asshole cop who's armed, that could be our funeral.


Just think about this, Freddie Gray was arrested without cause by Baltimore police, was held in police custody for ONE HOUR and he ended up with a broken neck that severed his spine and killed him.

So far in that case there have been two acquittals and one mistrial.

Not one of those cops will be held accountable.
Because that's how the 'system' is set up, to allow cops to legally murder Black folk.

People are acting like cops murdering Blacks with impunity started in the 2000s.:smt104

This shit have been going on since we got freed from slavery.
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Compelling read.
So you don't think there's such a thing as a good cop. A dedicated cop? Cops who work tirelessly to solve crimes for victims? Help victims? Hero cops? Cops who sacrifice their life to SAVE others?
 
Thump said:
A coordinated attack on police only serves to fuel and reinforce their fear of black people. Time and time again, it has been proven that the irrational fear of black people is why theses cops are so quick to go for their guns. This attack will lead to more 'shoot first ask questions later' scenarios. And that will cost more brothers and sisters their lives.
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LOL.

What was the excuse before 5 cops where killed in Dallas??

There's nothing Black people ever did or could do to deserve being murdered by cops.
 
Thump said:
A coordinated attack on police only serves to fuel and reinforce their fear of black people. Time and time again, it has been proven that the irrational fear of black people is why theses cops are so quick to go for their guns. This attack will lead to more 'shoot first ask questions later' scenarios. And that will cost more brothers and sisters their lives.
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I'm more or less saying we are already at rock bottom and can't move any lower.

I think you have more faith in the police not "fearing black people".

Momma archangel always said "They are all angels under authority".

When there are consequences to one's actions, they tend to do the right thing but I have yet to see equatable consequences to so many murders by some of the police.
 
Listening to radio.

This shooter and associates might be disgruntled cops.

It's not expected they release his and others identity until later today.
 
andreboba said:
LOL.

What was the excuse before 5 cops where killed in Dallas??

There's nothing Black people ever did or could do to deserve being murdered by cops.
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Trigger happy cops don't kill black people because of any reality of a threat. They kill our people because their fearful little minds PERCEIVE a threat.

Seeing five of their fellow officers killed during a BLM protest will only increase their fear, and it's that fear that will cost more lives.

In order to effect a real change, we need to get good cops on our side. An attack like this will only push good cops to be more like their fearful trigger happy colleagues.
 
Bliss said:
Compelling read.
So you don't think there's such a thing as a good cop. A dedicated cop? Cops who work tirelessly to solve crimes for victims? Help victims? Hero cops? Cops who sacrifice their life to SAVE others?
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Sure there are, but the institution of law enforcement itself is corrupt.

It's like having a friend or cousin who runs with a gang.

There are some really good dudes who run in gangs but just got caught up.
But the fact remains when you run with a criminal organization that operates outside the law, you're putting your own life in danger.

At this point I seriously have to question the motivations of anyone who would choose to go into law enforcement as a career.

I heard an Army vet on the radio today talking about these bad shoots in Minnesota and Louisiana and how when he was in Iraq all American soldiers were governed by strict rules of engagement.

If they saw a man approaching them on the street in Iraq holding an automatic rifle, this man said the soldiers couldn't just shoot him dead and had to WAIT for the man to shoot at them before retuning fire.

Cops in America have such a low burden of proof compared to the U.S. military, if a punk cop simply feels scared or thinks his life is threatened, or thinks you have a gun he's allowed by law to shoot you down.

That's a busted, corrupt system.

Even worse, IMO most cops KNOW about some slimy dirty shit going on at the precinct where they work and no one does a thing about it.

If it turns out these snipers targeted cops because of the recent murders in the news, IMO law enforcement nationwide brought this on themselves.
 
Thump said:
Trigger happy cops don't kill black people because of any reality of a threat. They kill our people because their fearful little minds PERCEIVE a threat.

Seeing five of their fellow officers killed during a BLM protest will only increase their fear, and it's that fear that will cost more lives.

In order to effect a real change, we need to get good cops on our side. An attack like this will only push good cops to be more like their fearful trigger happy colleagues.
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Cops kill Blacks because there are no consequences for killing us.

IMO their motivation is more sadistic and less fearful.
I just think it's a mistake to say you can do things to make a shitty cop less prone to shoot you dead.
 
archangel said:
Just want to make a point that last year Dallas PD had a guy attack them in an armed van last year. It may be related and not even connected to the police murders in the last couple of days.

link:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/13us/ dallas-police-headquarters-shooting/

Could really be unrelated to the police murders ....
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Well that guy is dead. Is this your own investigative theory, or others?
Jim Boulware said he thought his son would have directed his anger not at police but at his mother, who was granted custody of (deceased) James Boulware's son in April.


blackbull1970 said:
Listening to radio.

This shooter and associates might be disgruntled cops.

It's not expected they release his and others identity until later today.
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Nothing is impossible..however if they so hated cops, doing it at a BLM protest hurts BLM, not to mention endanger the lives of thousands of non-cops as well.

Then again, if they were "retaliatory" killers, why endanger the lives of fellow BLM marchers?
I guess it was the only opportunity to have a lot of congregating cops to take aim at.
Whomever they are, they were expert marksman because no civilian was shot.

Edit: I just read one killer was mad at cops and White people.
Link "He wanted to kill white people,
especially white officers':
 
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Beasty said:
Sounds like the #ALLLIVESMATTER movement

Lol
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No it doesn't.
It was a response point to you that cops kill White people "for the hell of it", too. It's not just a "Black" thing.

Btw, All lives DO MATTER, however l do appreciate that the BLM Movement is not declaring their lives MATTER.. MORE, but that their lives MATTER... TOO! JUST as much as any other "Race's" does.
I'm shocked how many non-blacks don't see that.
 
archangel said:
The police already have an impression that black people are dangerous. I don't think this is going to change that. What it does do is put them on guard in pursuing cases. You might be less likely to pursue something if you think it may get you on the news or killed.....which would have saved the last two guys and these current officers. Mean thing to say but that is what happened in NYC for a short time.
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Yes, but in addition to that. Too many police officers are in this with a chip on their shoulder and really no interest in policing the right way. That's why why have some officers being overly aggressive in situations where agressiona is not at all needed. Their gun, badge (and backup) are motivating them, and not actual good policing.
 
andreboba said:
Cops kill Blacks because there are no consequences for killing us.

IMO their motivation is more sadistic and less fearful.
I just think it's a mistake to say you can do things to make a shitty cop less prone to shoot you dead.
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Andre is killing it in this thread. Making damn good points throughout.

Thump, come off of that shit about cops fearing us so much... That's almost an underhanded way of making excuses for them.

Fact is, you don't slap around & humiliate & kill people you're afraid of.

These cops do the things they do because they feel impunity, not fear. There free to be bullies, that's all.
 
A few observations about this whole mess:

1. The shooter handed any possible good his act did right over to the enemy, when he talked shit about wanting to kill "white people" and "white officers". Black racism is nothing but ammunition for the worthless nazi camp. He's an embarrassment to his cause with that shit.

Especially when you consider that Castile's murderer wasn't so-called "white".

2. This shooting shouldn't have happened. I've felt enough anger at times in my life that I would applaud an act like this, but I say this should not have happened.

The Castile and Sterling incidents didn't happen in dallas, so why dallas?

In the Sterling case, it's questionable whether it was justified or not, because Sterling was struggling with cops, was armed, and may have been reaching. So sniping cops for that one wouldn't be right.

And Saint Paul (where the castille killing happened) seems to be a progressive city. Personally, I wouldn't hope reactionary shit like sniping cops on a progressive city, because it's just counterproductive.

Where people seem to be getting along, don't pour poison on it. Guiliani's NYC? Maybe. Saint Paul? No.

3. The cops killed the cornered shooter with a robot bomb. When it was initially reported that the guy killed himself with his own bomb, I smelled bullshit. Turns out my instincts were right -- cops have stuff like robot bombs now and that's how they got this guy.

When the authorities have tech like that, it's more important than ever to make sure they don't operate with impunity. People who think "oh -- it's okay to kill black men -- it's just those niggers" should understand that they might be next on the cops menu, when "resistance is futile" thanks to rapidly advancing technology.

4. Can't stand those "open carry" idiots. Hopefully Mr. Macho below learned his lesson when he had to crawl to the cops to surrender his AK (hoping he doesn't get shot in the process) after the sniping jumped off. He still was arrested and got his mug plastered all over the media.

Turns out he had nothing to do with the shooting, but I bet he won't be puffing out his chest and carrying around an AK (or AR I think :confused:) in public anymore. (Wonder if he still had that proud look on his face when he was begging to hand over his gun? :mrgreen:)

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