Snipers shoot multiple Dallas cops at Protest..Three have died

goodlove8 said:
Lol


Lol

The sound of the gun shots bounced between the buildings giving the illusion they were surrounded.
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They claimed they were pinned down by triangulated firepower from different locations....but....it turned out to be a lone Brother, in Lamont Sanford's dashiki from 1972.
 
flaminghetero said:
They claimed they were pinned down by triangulated firepower from different locations....but....it turned out to be a lone Brother, in Lamont Sanford's dashiki from 1972.
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Yeah I know. They grabbed a bw and a could of bm cause they carried rifles at the protest.

Seriously though when you shoot from a garage and in a slew of building like that , the sound will make it seem it can come from amywhere
 
Does everyone realize that Micah Johnson can officially be classified as the first American killed on American soil by drone strike? The bomb robot (drone) used to kill him doesn't defuse bombs in actual bomb threat situations. It disarms bombs by blowing them up.
 
Ra said:
Does everyone realize that Micah Johnson can officially be classified as the first American killed on American soil by drone strike? The bomb robot (drone) used to kill him doesn't defuse bombs in actual bomb threat situations. It disarms bombs by blowing them up.
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That's if you believe any of it.

Nobody saw it..

How do we verify any of this?
...his so called speech about wanting to kill white people....hmmmm...that's seems fabricated to make it look like we're the racist.


I just can't assume a bunch of lying,murderous,juiced-up,racist,police are telling the truth.

What about the other shooters????

Too much wrong with the story for me to bite.
 
goodlove8 said:
Yeah I know. They grabbed a bw and a could of bm cause they carried rifles at the protest.

Seriously though when you shoot from a garage and in a slew of building like that , the sound will make it seem it can come from amywhere
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No way..

They didn't say there multiple shooters because of errant soundwaves....

C'mon now.
 
flaminghetero said:
That's if you believe any of it.

Nobody saw it..

How do we verify any of this?
...his so called speech about wanting to kill white people....hmmmm...that's seems fabricated to make it look like we're the racist.


I just can't assume a bunch of lying,murderous,juiced-up,racist,police are telling the truth.

What about the other shooters????

Too much wrong with the story for me to bite.
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The shit is fucked up no matter how you look at it. The man was basically executed for shooting at and killing cops. They didn't even try to take him in to stand trial for it. But we should trust in the police and our justice system. No fuckery going on from their end at all.....
 
andreboba said:
Bliss, I personally feel the institution of law enforcement is corrupt.

It's so corrupt in the latitude and protections and abuse of authority it allows for cops that it eventually will turn 'good' cops into bad ones.

I had an incident on the D.C. metro a couple months ago.
A transit cop detective and another cop pulled me to the side as I exited the gates and asked to see my ID.

I said why??

He said some bullshit about not being able to tell me unless it was a miranda situation....reading me my rights because I was placed under arrest.

I asked this detective again, you can't tell me why you want to see my ID without arresting me??

He finally said we had an incident on the metro and you 'fit the profile'.

I gave him my ID.

He ran a check on it, found nothing, then 'asked' me to stand against a wall in the train station to take my pic with his smart phone.


Again, I said WHY?????

Now the detective is getting annoyed IMO because I've been too lippy.

He said if I don't hear from him in a week, everything's good....for you.


Now this was just flat out harassment, one of those routine indignities too many Black folk have to deal with from the police.

I'm certain he violated my civil rights a couple times.

But I also knew I had no record and if he was going to cuff me, fuck him.

You're right Bliss, the problem isn't specifically the cops.

The problem is the SYSTEM.

Even police chiefs are judged on specific metrics that have little to do with being ethical or moral.

Police chiefs like any other top management are bottom line thinkers.

They don't want cops in the news for something controversial and they want tangible proof the crime stats are down.

I'm curious what you mean by a police chief not representing the interests of the rank and file cops as the reason for his or her being unpopular???

What interests are those, I wonder?
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Don't put everything on the system. The system has nothing to do with cops killing black people. I'm not really concerned with cops being dirty, look at the politicans ect... The fact is that cops are killing black people because it's a low risk activity. (but that wouldn't matter if they didn't want to kill to begin with) You don't have to have balls, you get to get him when you have an absolute advantage and their are little to no consequences for doing so. The system did not turn a good cop into a murderer. That's that bullshit.

Just because the system makes it easy for a coward to get away with murder doesn't mean a perfectly normal guy will become a murderer if given the opportunity.
 
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flaminghetero said:
No way..

They didn't say there multiple shooters because of errant soundwaves....

C'mon now.
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They did . they thought it was multiple shooters and they thought they were surrounded.
Why did they think there was multiple shooters?
You do know sound can bounce around right?
So you tell me why they went from three to one?
 
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Baton rouge residents just retaliated to the police.The Mayor is lucky that he is on his last term or he would not be elected.
 
Beasty said:
Don't put everything on the system. The system has nothing to do with cops killing black people. I'm not really concerned with cops being dirty, look at the politicans ect... The fact is that cops are killing black people because it's a low risk activity. (but that wouldn't matter if they didn't want to kill to begin with) You don't have to have balls, you get to get him when you have an absolute advantage and their are little to no consequences for doing so. The system did not turn a good cop into a murderer. That's that bullshit.

Just because the system makes it easy for a coward to get away with murder doesn't mean a perfectly normal guy will become a murderer if given the opportunity.
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Good point, but it's many of the dirty politicians who rise up to protect dirty police officers and places the bullshit anti-cop label on anyone who questions and/or call for action against dirty police officers.
 
goodlove8 said:
They did . they thought it was multiple shooters and they thought they were surrounded.
Why did they think there was multiple shooters?
You do know sound can bounce around right?
So you tell me why they went from three to one?
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Yeah, you sound about right. It was just one cop-killer... He had trained in T.A.P -

"...Johnson had practiced military-style drills in his yard and trained at a private self-defense school that teaches special tactics, including "shooting on the move," a maneuver in which an attacker fires and changes position before firing again.

He received instruction at the Academy of Combative Warrior Arts in the Dallas suburb of Richardson about two years ago, said the school's founder and chief instructor, Justin J. Everman.

...Dallas Mayor Mike Rawlings described Johnson as "a mobile shooter" who had written manifestos on how to "shoot and move."

Authorities have said the gunman kept a journal of combat tactics and had amassed a personal arsenal at his home, including bomb-making materials, rifles and ammunition.

The academy website refers to one of its courses as a "tactical applications program," or TAP.

"Reality is highly dynamic, you will be drawing your firearm, moving, shooting on the move, fixing malfunctions, etc. all under high levels of stress," the website says.

"Most people never get to train these skills as they are not typically allowed on the static gun range."

The TAP training includes "shooting from different positions," ''drawing under stress" and "drawing from concealment."
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..More recently, a neighbor reported to investigators that Johnson had been seen practicing some sort of military drill in his backyard in the Dallas suburb of Mesquite, said Dallas County Senior Judge, Clay Jenkins..."
 
Bliss said:
Yeah, you sound about right. It was just one cop-killer... He had trained in T.A.P -

"...Johnson had practiced military-style drills in his yard and trained at a private self-defense school that teaches special tactics, including "shooting on the move," a maneuver in which an attacker fires and changes position before firing again.

He received instruction at the Academy of Combative Warrior Arts in the Dallas suburb of Richardson about two years ago, said the school's founder and chief instructor, Justin J. Everman.

...Dallas Mayor Mike Rawlings described Johnson as "a mobile shooter" who had written manifestos on how to "shoot and move."

Authorities have said the gunman kept a journal of combat tactics and had amassed a personal arsenal at his home, including bomb-making materials, rifles and ammunition.

The academy website refers to one of its courses as a "tactical applications program," or TAP.

"Reality is highly dynamic, you will be drawing your firearm, moving, shooting on the move, fixing malfunctions, etc. all under high levels of stress," the website says.

"Most people never get to train these skills as they are not typically allowed on the static gun range."

The TAP training includes "shooting from different positions," ''drawing under stress" and "drawing from concealment."
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..More recently, a neighbor reported to investigators that Johnson had been seen practicing some sort of military drill in his backyard in the Dallas suburb of Mesquite, said Dallas County Senior Judge, Clay Jenkins..."
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Back in basic will tell us the laymans term .... Shoot ...move ....communicate.

Take a shot or two and get moving to the next cover and let our buddy know we are in place to make the next move. Basic fundamental tactic.
 
Ra said:
The shit is fucked up no matter how you look at it. The man was basically executed for shooting at and killing cops. They didn't even try to take him in to stand trial for it. But we should trust in the police and our justice system. No fuckery going on from their end at all.....
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Why would they keep trying to take him in? He was an active shooter and a bomb threat. Who the hell human cop is going into a garage when he told them he had explosives. For two hours they negotiated with that FUCKED UP madman. Time was up.
 
Bliss said:
Time was up.
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Did they find any bombs near him after the fact? Was he holding any civilians or cops as hostages? What exactly were they "negotiating" with him for? If he was that much of a "MADMAN" bent on killing cops and had a bomb/bombs as he said he did, he could have easily taken the cops out at his leisure during said "negotiations". Maximum police casualties in that situation for a "MADMAN".
 
Bliss said:
Why would they keep trying to take him in? He was an active shooter and a bomb threat. Who the hell human cop is going into a garage when he told them he had explosives. For two hours they negotiated with that FUCKED UP madman. Time was up.
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Ra said:
Did they find any bombs near him after the fact? Was he holding any civilians or cops as hostages? What exactly were they "negotiating" with him for? If he was that much of a "MADMAN" bent on killing cops and had a bomb/bombs as he said he did, he could have easily taken the cops out at his leisure during said "negotiations". Maximum police casualties in that situation for a "MADMAN".
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http://www.dallasnews.com/news/loca...nia-trooper-ambush-is-captured-police-say.ece

Something the both can compare and contrast.
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Man wanted in Pennsylvania trooper ambush is captured, police saysay



BLOOMING GROVE, Pa. — A survivalist accused of ambushing two state troopers, killing one and seriously wounding the other, was captured on Thursday by U.S. marshals in an abandoned airplane hangar, ending a seven-week manhunt that had rattled the nerves of area residents, authorities said.

The apparently quiet takedown of Eric Frein ended weeks of tension and turmoil in the area, as authorities at times closed schools, canceled outdoor events and blockaded roads to pursue him. Residents grew weary of hearing helicopters overhead, while small businesses suffered mounting losses and town supervisors canceled a popular Halloween parade.

State police confirmed Frein was taken into custody Thursday but released no other details. Media photographs show him sitting in the back of a cruiser with a bloodied nose, with longer hair than he had in images on the FBI's most wanted posters.

"Way to Go PSP!" a sign read across from the barracks in Blooming Grove, where the ambush occurred and where Frein was being held.

Two law enforcement officials said Frein was captured in the hangar. They weren't authorized to discuss the circumstances of Frein's arrest and spoke to The Associated Press on the condition of anonymity. A federal law enforcement official in Washington said Frein was armed when he was captured.

Frein is charged with opening fire outside the Blooming Grove barracks on Sept. 12, killing Cpl. Bryon Dickson and seriously wounding another trooper.

Police said they linked him to the ambush after a man walking his dog discovered his partly submerged SUV three days later in a swamp a few miles from the shooting scene. Inside, investigators found shell casings matching those found at the barracks as well as Frein's driver's license, camouflage face paint, two empty rifle cases and military gear.

Officials, saying Frein was armed and extremely dangerous, had urged residents to be alert and cautious. Using dogs, thermal imaging technology and other tools, law enforcement officials combed miles of forest as they hunted for Frein, whom they called an experienced survivalist at home in the woods.

They pursued countless tips and closed in on an area around Frein's parents' home in Canadensis after he used his cellphone to try contacting them and the signal was traced to a location about 3 miles away. At times police ordered nearby residents to stay inside or prevented them from returning home.

Trackers found items they believe Frein hid or abandoned in the woods — including soiled diapers, empty packs of Serbian cigarettes, an AK-47-style assault rifle and ammunition and two pipe bombs that were functional and capable of causing significant damage. They also discovered a journal, allegedly kept by Frein and found in a bag of trash at a hastily abandoned campsite, that offered a chilling account of the ambush and his subsequent escape into the woods. The journal's author described Dickson as falling "still and quiet" after being shot twice.

Police spotted a man they believed to be Frein at several points during the manhunt, but it was always from a distance, with the rugged terrain allowing him to keep them at bay. Police said he appeared to be treating the manhunt as a game.

Frein had expressed anti-law enforcement views online and to people who knew him. His criminal record appeared limited to a decade-old misdemeanor case involving items stolen from a World War II re-enactors event in upstate New York, for which he spent 109 days in jail.

Police found a U.S. Army manual called "Sniper Training and Employment" in his bedroom at his parents' house, and his father, a retired Army major, told authorities that his son is an excellent marksman who "doesn't miss," according to a police affidavit. Authorities believe Frein had been planning a confrontation with police for years, citing information they found on a computer used by him.

A man and a woman believed to be Frein's parents, reached separately by telephone on Thursday, declined to comment.

The manhunt for Frein in northeastern Pennsylvania had scrapped some plans for trick-or-treating. The chairman of Barrett Township's board of supervisors planned to meet with other town officials to try to salvage Halloween.

"No police were hurt. Nobody else was hurt. He didn't take any more lives. He didn't shoot anybody else, from what I understand," chairman Ralph Megliola said. "That's the best scenario.".........
 
Yea... goodlove is right. I felt like they did put effort but I doubt that they pust as much effort as PA. unless someone has evidence of this.....


goodlove8 said:
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/loca...nia-trooper-ambush-is-captured-police-say.ece

Something the both can compare and contrast.
Excerpt from an article.......

Man wanted in Pennsylvania trooper ambush is captured, police saysay



BLOOMING GROVE, Pa. — A survivalist accused of ambushing two state troopers, killing one and seriously wounding the other, was captured on Thursday by U.S. marshals in an abandoned airplane hangar, ending a seven-week manhunt that had rattled the nerves of area residents, authorities said.

The apparently quiet takedown of Eric Frein ended weeks of tension and turmoil in the area, as authorities at times closed schools, canceled outdoor events and blockaded roads to pursue him. Residents grew weary of hearing helicopters overhead, while small businesses suffered mounting losses and town supervisors canceled a popular Halloween parade.

State police confirmed Frein was taken into custody Thursday but released no other details. Media photographs show him sitting in the back of a cruiser with a bloodied nose, with longer hair than he had in images on the FBI's most wanted posters.

"Way to Go PSP!" a sign read across from the barracks in Blooming Grove, where the ambush occurred and where Frein was being held.

Two law enforcement officials said Frein was captured in the hangar. They weren't authorized to discuss the circumstances of Frein's arrest and spoke to The Associated Press on the condition of anonymity. A federal law enforcement official in Washington said Frein was armed when he was captured.

Frein is charged with opening fire outside the Blooming Grove barracks on Sept. 12, killing Cpl. Bryon Dickson and seriously wounding another trooper.

Police said they linked him to the ambush after a man walking his dog discovered his partly submerged SUV three days later in a swamp a few miles from the shooting scene. Inside, investigators found shell casings matching those found at the barracks as well as Frein's driver's license, camouflage face paint, two empty rifle cases and military gear.

Officials, saying Frein was armed and extremely dangerous, had urged residents to be alert and cautious. Using dogs, thermal imaging technology and other tools, law enforcement officials combed miles of forest as they hunted for Frein, whom they called an experienced survivalist at home in the woods.

They pursued countless tips and closed in on an area around Frein's parents' home in Canadensis after he used his cellphone to try contacting them and the signal was traced to a location about 3 miles away. At times police ordered nearby residents to stay inside or prevented them from returning home.

Trackers found items they believe Frein hid or abandoned in the woods — including soiled diapers, empty packs of Serbian cigarettes, an AK-47-style assault rifle and ammunition and two pipe bombs that were functional and capable of causing significant damage. They also discovered a journal, allegedly kept by Frein and found in a bag of trash at a hastily abandoned campsite, that offered a chilling account of the ambush and his subsequent escape into the woods. The journal's author described Dickson as falling "still and quiet" after being shot twice.

Police spotted a man they believed to be Frein at several points during the manhunt, but it was always from a distance, with the rugged terrain allowing him to keep them at bay. Police said he appeared to be treating the manhunt as a game.

Frein had expressed anti-law enforcement views online and to people who knew him. His criminal record appeared limited to a decade-old misdemeanor case involving items stolen from a World War II re-enactors event in upstate New York, for which he spent 109 days in jail.

Police found a U.S. Army manual called "Sniper Training and Employment" in his bedroom at his parents' house, and his father, a retired Army major, told authorities that his son is an excellent marksman who "doesn't miss," according to a police affidavit. Authorities believe Frein had been planning a confrontation with police for years, citing information they found on a computer used by him.

A man and a woman believed to be Frein's parents, reached separately by telephone on Thursday, declined to comment.

The manhunt for Frein in northeastern Pennsylvania had scrapped some plans for trick-or-treating. The chairman of Barrett Township's board of supervisors planned to meet with other town officials to try to salvage Halloween.

"No police were hurt. Nobody else was hurt. He didn't take any more lives. He didn't shoot anybody else, from what I understand," chairman Ralph Megliola said. "That's the best scenario.".........
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Ra said:
The shit is fucked up no matter how you look at it. The man was basically executed for shooting at and killing cops. They didn't even try to take him in to stand trial for it. But we should trust in the police and our justice system. No fuckery going on from their end at all.....
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Hell they even took in the Boston Bomber for trial and he killed hundreds
 
Bliss said:
Why would they keep trying to take him in? He was an active shooter and a bomb threat. Who the hell human cop is going into a garage when he told them he had explosives. For two hours they negotiated with that FUCKED UP madman. Time was up.
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This I gotta agree with actually. Don't know why they couldn't have easily used tear gas but if he had some sort of detinator better safe than sorry.
 
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