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Another selective reader lol. Now I have an idea how some white guys feel lol. You say one word and that's the entire focal point. When I said past prime age I specifically explained I was talking about child rearing not desirability. I don't doubt many of you get advances but there is a point when you can't have kids or its harmful to the fetus for you to try and THAT'S real talk my friend. You ladies are fierce I swear lol.

And to add (yes, I am a wee bit pissed off)

I am sick and tired of all this past their prime bull s*&^

I am fairly confident that if I was walking down the street with my hair down, make up on, and a pair of jeans on, half the men on here that are posting that shit would be sucking their their teeth, giving me the "Hey baby where you going" or just plain old whipping their heads around to get a look at my ass as I walk on by! How do I know? Because it happens to me every god damn day!

And that my friends is real talk!
 
Thanks.

Son,
You might have missed your calling and subsequently your entitlement for nicer things in life....in any case, I can have a publisher ready should you change your mind.......the eloquence is unsurpassed......the message deep....
 
I have to wonder, Ms. Chai, if there's been an upswing in the past her prime crap since I showed up. If so, I'm sorry. I can't tell what happened before.

Maybe I should just go sit in my rocker and learn to knit instead of posting.

hell to the no girl...before you got here lippy was the oldest dried up sandy pussy...lol...like you i have guys 20 year younger trying to get to know me...there are a few idiots on this forum but i can tell you that at least 3 on here i have sent video of themselves jacking off trying to lure the lipster with their lovely dicks...several more penis shots...some with their mother fucking clothes on and sexy as hell...not too mention delightful texts...emails...phonecalls...

soooooooooooooooooo...for those having the problem of grasping that a woman can be sexy at any age...i say stop being a victim...get out of your house and get yourself a god damn date...so tired of you putting women down here just because you can't get any play...fucking losers...all it takes is a couple of rotten fruit in the in the bin to make you want to throw out the entire lot
 
Oh wow. I cant NOT comment on this. I just cant.

To those black males here clearly suffering from extreme cases of Rich White Male Penis Envy Syndrome can you please stop hijacking threads every chance you see an opening and beating everyone upside the damn head with your tired ass & lame bullshit ranting. We get it. You wish you were white instead of black because it’s hard being black and all the greatness that you think you are entitled to from life you would now currently have and your life would be oh so wonderful if only you were white. Fine. Whatever. …….

This this this and THIS. I see this on the forum all the time and it's rubbish.

I never tried to tell YOU what YOU like I just talk about what I see in general and what I see on dating websites and in clubs and on college campuses and what I hear women at work talk about and what I see in media.

You do this ALL THE TIME! The world outside NY cannot be covered by media and the women at work. You always try and tell me how women see things or feel and base it on these sources. You do it for men too. And I find that more or less every single time, you are way off the mark!

I dont know whether NY is just this zone where EVERYTHING and EVERYONE seems to act differently to every single country I have ever visited or lived in or every different nationality of person I have ever met, but it certainly seems like it.

Pretty much, women here are simply trying to make him see that his view is not the encompassing truth and give him other views that exists and other experiences... and he takes it as we think our view is the encompassing truth. We are not, we never have thought that - and I am glad you see that. Lovely Drae is guilty of what he is accusing us of. We are merely trying to give him bits and pieces of other peoples reality and trying to make him realize that his view is not the encompassing truth. I think if he would be open to really listening, he would benefit from that by opening his heart to other possibilities as the world is not as grim and black and white as he sees it.

This forever and ever, Amen.

However, dating women 5-6 years younger at your age is a huger gap than when you get older. Women in their early 20s may see you as old.

Real talk. And actually, the difference between 24-25 and 30 is quite substantial in terms of maturity. In fact, I do believe you yourself have said this to me in conversation before Dark Knight, my dear friend.

I still love ya dude, but I had to put in my two pennies worth, sorry!
 
Pretty much, women here are simply trying to make him see that his view is not the encompassing truth and give him other views that exists and other experiences... and he takes it as we think our view is the encompassing truth. We are not, we never have thought that - and I am glad you see that. Lovely Drae is guilty of what he is accusing us of. We are merely trying to give him bits and pieces of other peoples reality and trying to make him realize that his view is not the encompassing truth. I think if he would be open to really listening, he would benefit from that by opening his heart to other possibilities as the world is not as grim and black and white as he sees it.



I am sure that you saw the mini aftermath that came after my posting. I have no animosity towards Dre and think he is an intellegent young man, but I chose to word my response to him a certain way because I wanted to see if he would respond & reply back in a certain way. And unfortunately he responded how I knew he would. Dre is always saying that he likes to engage in "honest debate", but "honest" for him is everything from his point of view. Being that he is and educated 30 year old man, if he were truly about engaging in honest debate then there was no need for him to respond as he did with me. He would have simply chose to engage as an adult without fear & with reason and countered what I had said with the truth & facts that he says he uses in debate. Instead he chose to response as he has on numerous other occasions on this forum by going the childish route and using what I call Ghetto Jedi Mind Tricks. It's basically the tactics that folks that have no interest in getting out of the ghetto & improving their lot in life use on others who do not wish to be part of the ignorance cycle & attempt to leave the environment or try to bring something positive into. They rather keep it "real" & "gangsta". And anyone not keeping it "real" & "gangsta" well.....I'm sure you know the deal and see the similarities.


Dre for all intents & purposes outed himself. It's more important for him to have control of the debates & disscussions here and that they spin his way, rather than face the possibity that he could be wrong on his POV. It's frustrating to see a bright man waste so much time & energy "debating" others on what he believes is "reality" rather than listen to what many intellegent women here, both American & non-American, have told he repeatedly on multiple occasions and excepting it as an actual possibility: You can change your "reality" if you chose to. But sadly he obviously doesn't seem to want to. And also sadly it not only Dre here on this forum who is like this.
 
Dre for all intents & purposes outed himself. It's more important for him to have control of the debates & disscussions here and that they spin his way, rather than face the possibity that he could be wrong on his POV. It's frustrating to see a bright man waste so much time & energy "debating" others on what he believes is "reality" rather than listen to what many intellegent women here, both American & non-American, have told he repeatedly on multiple occasions and excepting it as an actual possibility: You can change your "reality" if you chose to. But sadly he obviously doesn't seem to want to. And also sadly it not only Dre here on this forum who is like this.

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When you fight for your limitations, you get to keep them. DK's experience proves that.

I'd be thrilled never to see another post by a man which said "Women believe" or "women think" or "women always do." We're not a monolithic group, and treating us as though we were indistinguishable from one another is silly. It's also silly to tell every woman who differs from one's own opinion of women that she is "an exception." Frankly, that tactic went out with the misogysaurs.
We are not exceptional, we *are* women.

If every woman you date fits some profile you find disturbing or upsetting, look in the mirror, dude.
 
I am sure that you saw the mini aftermath that came after my posting. I have no animosity towards Dre and think he is an intellegent young man, but I chose to word my response to him a certain way because I wanted to see if he would respond & reply back in a certain way. And unfortunately he responded how I knew he would. Dre is always saying that he likes to engage in "honest debate", but "honest" for him is everything from his point of view. Being that he is and educated 30 year old man, if he were truly about engaging in honest debate then there was no need for him to respond as he did with me. He would have simply chose to engage as an adult without fear & with reason and countered what I had said with the truth & facts that he says he uses in debate. Instead he chose to response as he has on numerous other occasions on this forum by going the childish route and using what I call Ghetto Jedi Mind Tricks. It's basically the tactics that folks that have no interest in getting out of the ghetto & improving their lot in life use on others who do not wish to be part of the ignorance cycle & attempt to leave the environment or try to bring something positive into. They rather keep it "real" & "gangsta". And anyone not keeping it "real" & "gangsta" well.....I'm sure you know the deal and see the similarities.


Dre for all intents & purposes outed himself. It's more important for him to have control of the debates & disscussions here and that they spin his way, rather than face the possibity that he could be wrong on his POV. It's frustrating to see a bright man waste so much time & energy "debating" others on what he believes is "reality" rather than listen to what many intellegent women here, both American & non-American, have told he repeatedly on multiple occasions and excepting it as an actual possibility: You can change your "reality" if you chose to. But sadly he obviously doesn't seem to want to. And also sadly it not only Dre here on this forum who is like this.

It is unfortunate, but true. Quite a few on here have no interest in what really is going on, everybody is wrong in their eyes - and their way of viewing the world is the all encompassing truth - even though the majority tell them that it aint so.

I find it heartbreaking that they don't listen to others experience and try to discover that rather than pigeon hole themselves to a very limited and sad view - cheating themselves out of so much.
The stubbornness is mind numbing, why they do wanna stay in their own little limiting sad realm is just .. odd.
Why do you want to stay unhappy and bitter when there is so much more out there.

If we strike out w the opposite sex based on the same thing - why blame the opposite sex when the most likely answer is what you go for.

And this whole thing about all studies show that women only focus on money and career of the men is just laughable - what studies.. who made the studies... whats the source.. all studies, all experiences everywhere, in college, in media bla bla.. that is a bunch of lame crap that isn't true.
Drae IS very intelligent, why he chooses to ignore where he gets that information from, sources and motives behind it is beyond me. I guess because it makes him feel good that he is "correct". Of course these women exist, we all know that. Is it the majority, far from it. He picks and chooses "information" based on his view and clearly ignore the rest.

Poor Drae is missing out. He should be less interested in being right and more interested in opening up his heart, and eyes/ears to others views and possibilities and start to do some self evaluation. Its not unique to him, a lot of us need to do that, perhaps all of us at some point. I certainly have had to.
 
hell to the no girl...before you got here lippy was the oldest dried up sandy pussy...lol...like you i have guys 20 year younger trying to get to know me...there are a few idiots on this forum but i can tell you that at least 3 on here i have sent video of themselves jacking off trying to lure the lipster with their lovely dicks...several more penis shots...some with their mother fucking clothes on and sexy as hell...not too mention delightful texts...emails...phonecalls...

soooooooooooooooooo...for those having the problem of grasping that a woman can be sexy at any age...i say stop being a victim...get out of your house and get yourself a god damn date...so tired of you putting women down here just because you can't get any play...fucking losers...all it takes is a couple of rotten fruit in the in the bin to make you want to throw out the entire lot

dusty or not, you still have big natural tits worthy of a hard on, and at the end of the day, we like meat to grab on to
 
Oh boy another selective reader. I am the only one I've noticed that faced with logic that I can't argue is honest enough to conceed. I am always willing to admit when someone has a point and it with my patented" fair enough". When we have debates about shit like this I am open to hearing other's pov but when I say I've read studies and posted them or documentaries about what I've learned its dismissed as evo pysch with absolutely no evidence on the contrary just a flippant" explore the world and see attitude. I don't just base everything on what I see I notice what other men on here post as well yet I'm just some crazy sheltered person pulling this out of my ass.

And let's be clear I only replied to you the way I did because of your passive aggressive attempt to try and call me out fam. If you have something to say to me the direct approach is the most efficient way.

I'm not trapped in a ghetto mind set. I often admit that a lot of the foreign women on this forum express and carry themselves in a way that makes me want to explore the world but it doesn't excuse what I see in the states in the women with in my age group. The late 20something to early 30 something crowd go through a desperate phase worrying about getting married and having kids. Is it everyone? Of course not but I see it often enough to think its extremely common.

And I know we have women on here who are quick to say not me that's not how I think" im not that way but let's consider something else. If you're on wwbm, if you're open to dating bm you're not of the norm anyway so using them as a sample of what's normal is a hard sell.

I am sure that you saw the mini aftermath that came after my posting. I have no animosity towards Dre and think he is an intellegent young man, but I chose to word my response to him a certain way because I wanted to see if he would respond & reply back in a certain way. And unfortunately he responded how I knew he would. Dre is always saying that he likes to engage in "honest debate", but "honest" for him is everything from his point of view. Being that he is and educated 30 year old man, if he were truly about engaging in honest debate then there was no need for him to respond as he did with me. He would have simply chose to engage as an adult without fear & with reason and countered what I had said with the truth & facts that he says he uses in debate. Instead he chose to response as he has on numerous other occasions on this forum by going the childish route and using what I call Ghetto Jedi Mind Tricks. It's basically the tactics that folks that have no interest in getting out of the ghetto & improving their lot in life use on others who do not wish to be part of the ignorance cycle & attempt to leave the environment or try to bring something positive into. They rather keep it "real" & "gangsta". And anyone not keeping it "real" & "gangsta" well.....I'm sure you know the deal and see the similarities.


Dre for all intents & purposes outed himself. It's more important for him to have control of the debates & disscussions here and that they spin his way, rather than face the possibity that he could be wrong on his POV. It's frustrating to see a bright man waste so much time & energy "debating" others on what he believes is "reality" rather than listen to what many intellegent women here, both American & non-American, have told he repeatedly on multiple occasions and excepting it as an actual possibility: You can change your "reality" if you chose to. But sadly he obviously doesn't seem to want to. And also sadly it not only Dre here on this forum who is like this.
 
Who is fighting for anything? Dude I date a lot. I'm not one to brag on here because its pointless but I'm a reasonably attractive guy who is educated talented and somewhat charming (others words not mine). I don't have a problem meeting women and I date women from all kinds of backgrounds but I have to admit I have had far more enjoyable and easy going interactions with women from different countries closer to my age. The greater New York area is filled with young women who want to live a sex and the city lifestyle some want to live an artist's lifestyle or even that of just a young urban professional but in an area where rent for a studio apartment is commonly above.1000 dollars a month and the cost of living is higher here than other part of the country people tend to gravitate towards those who can afford a decent lifestyle since its so expensive.
Dinner and a movie cost damn near 80 bucks everytime you do it and if you want to do a show it usually cost 300 bucks. Entertainment isn't cheap, cost of living isn't cheap so many women like men who have higher paying jobs so everything isn't a struggle.I think many of you ignore that since you live in cheaper parts of the country. I'm living a student lifestyle right now and my bills and living expenses come to 2300 bucks a mont for just me in a studio. I don't think people are necessarily always gold diggers they just don't want to struggle just to exist.
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When you fight for your limitations, you get to keep them. DK's experience proves that.

I'd be thrilled never to see another post by a man which said "Women believe" or "women think" or "women always do." We're not a monolithic group, and treating us as though we were indistinguishable from one another is silly. It's also silly to tell every woman who differs from one's own opinion of women that she is "an exception." Frankly, that tactic went out with the misogysaurs.
We are not exceptional, we *are* women.

If every woman you date fits some profile you find disturbing or upsetting, look in the mirror, dude.
 
The greater New York area is filled with young women who want to live a sex and the city lifestyle some want to live an artist's lifestyle or even that of just a young urban professional but in an area where rent for a studio apartment is commonly above.1000 dollars a month and the cost of living is higher here than other part of the country people tend to gravitate towards those who can afford a decent lifestyle since its so expensive.
Dinner and a movie cost damn near 80 bucks everytime you do it and if you want to do a show it usually cost 300 bucks. Entertainment isn't cheap, cost of living isn't cheap so many women like men who have higher paying jobs so everything isn't a struggle.I think many of you ignore that since you live in cheaper parts of the country. I'm living a student lifestyle right now and my bills and living expenses come to 2300 bucks a mont for just me in a studio. I don't think people are necessarily always gold diggers they just don't want to struggle just to exist.

Don't forget, I came from Boston, so I'm aware of what living in a larger metro area costs, even NYC. You're missing the point that several of us have tried to make however. I'm sorry. One day you'll see it, DK, of that I have no doubt.

Sometimes you can be told something 500 times and it doesnt sink in until the right person says it to you at the right time.
 
Oh boy another selective reader. I am the only one I've noticed that faced with logic that I can't argue is honest enough to conceed.


This right here is what kills you, son. You see yourself as an unbiased agent of logic & truth on this forum. You can't appoint yourself to that position. You're giving an opinion out about yourself. No one can give an honest unbiased opinon of themselves and yet here you are doing so. And if you can't give an unbiased opinion of yourself how the hell can you give opinions on or about others as "truth" and expect anyone to except it?




And let's be clear I only replied to you the way I did because of your passive aggressive attempt to try and call me out fam. If you have something to say to me the direct approach is the most efficient way.

Oh. So the response that I gave to you last night was not direct for you? It was passive aggresive? Okay. How is this for being direct. You are an educate & intellegent black male with too much damn potential to be wasting your damn time & energy always debating people on an internet forum about your perpective on reality & playing games for your ego & foolish vanity. Yes. That is what you are doing. That damn energy should put forth in the real world trying to make some much need change out there young man. But no. You would rather hang on the internet and fake at being somebody where it's all nice and safe because you are scared. Scared that you might get hurt or lose something. Guess what that's life, son. Especially if you are black. Black folks have been getting hurt or lossing something in one shape or form since we have been brought to this country. You know what? Just forget it. I'm not going to waste my time & energy on a selfish, foolish & prideful individual like you who has it all figured out. You're a grown ass man. Do what you will. If being on an internet forum using your education & knowledge to fighting "hypocrisy" & "double standards" and all the other online "injustices" you see and enlightening others who are so unaware of reality as it is like you are (hoping they will be the ones to take action and be the ones to make change) is so much more important than actually fighting against the real injustices we both know about & see on the regular and making a difference in the real world, knock yourself out.
 
Folks need to take the whole victim mentality & cram it where the sun doesn't shine.

To those black males here clearly suffering from extreme cases of Rich White Male Penis Envy Syndrome can you please stop hijacking threads every chance you see an opening and beating everyone upside the damn head with your tired ass & lame bullshit ranting. We get it. You wish you were white instead of black because it’s hard being black and all the greatness that you think you are entitled to from life you would now currently have and your life would be oh so wonderful if only you were white. Fine. Whatever. But why should everyone else here give a fuck, especially if your asses aren’t doing and won’t do a damn thing in the real world offline to change or improve your lot in life or the world around you in general? There’s nothing more embarrassing that listening to grown ass supposedly educated & intelligent black males constantly & selfishly bemoaning their lot in life but doing nothing to change anything but play “if only”…….

Well put, Ra-Ra...this definitely needed to be said. I've seen it a lot around here & it's enough to make a person want to vomit. It's more of that victim mentality of wanting to blame everything that happens their world on everyone & everything else & refusing to take responsibility for their own lives & happiness. Yeah, sometimes things may not be the way we want them to be & sometimes shit happens, BUT we have control over how we respond to it. We should appreciate what we've been blessed with & that includes being blessed with the ability to make improvements to our lives & to the world around us.

Fuck being polite. They aren't polite when they constantly subject everyone to the same dumb shit all the time and label people as stupid or whatever name they feel like sticking on you in order to shut you down if you don't buy into their bullshit.

Amen.

According to a select few men on here (though I believe they aren't posting anymore), if a woman is over 25, you may as well put her out to pasture.

LOL.

Fuck those idiots. They wouldn't know a real woman if she walked up & bit them on the ass.

Those are just wealth indicators and would you deny that wealth is attractive?

Wealth is NOT attractive because wealth has NOTHING to do with who a man is or what he's about as a person. I have NEVER been impressed by a man's wealth, & I never will be.

For most women it's the man himself & not his money or possessions that appeal to us. The ones who are turned on by the money & not the man are just whores looking for a good pay day, & why any man would want to appeal to that type of woman makes absolutely no sense to me.

I don't like the shared notion on this board by some of the women here who pretend their world view is the majority. I get that some of you don't care the reality is most do. I found a documentary from a very reputable source on this very topic and you guys attempted to call it evo-psych. They did studies for years to come up with their conclusions and when men on here say that they've personally experienced it a lot of you reply with the "stop hanging around gold diggers" comment. Its not like most of these women are shallow people they can't help what turns them on. I personally like a thinner woman with a healthy body nice eyes and long hair. Am I shallow because that's what literally turns me on? Its a chemical reaction that I experience once I visually see it, it can't be helped. These are evolutionary beneficial cues, just like they are for women. I don't get why that's difficult to understand. No one is saying that a woman can't do for herself or its not attractive when she can but I'm just acknowledging what the world shows us to be true.

We're not the ones with that issue, Drae. You're the one who thinks your view is what the majority of women's reality is, & you're way off base. Yeah, there are some who think that way, but it's definitely not most. I don't care how many articles or "studies" you use as your proof, you are not in any position to tell women what women think or believe, & you need to quit arguing with us & discounting our experiences because they don't fit your warped sense of reality.

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Damn. I must be reading that shit wrong. The women pretend that "their" world view ist the majority??? No. That would be you homeboy. That's why you are always having "miscommunications" getting your point across. Because you are always trying to force everyone to accept the world from your point of reality. Which is why you love to "debate" the same dumb ass topics that have been discussed over & over & over & over & over again. SMDH

This.
 
"beyond your prime"..... I have as many "suitors" as I had 20 years ago. I
Happiness have always been my goal, never money etc. In my experience, women are more romantic than men and are more looking for that romance rather than big wallet etc. I think that is reflected in most marriages in this country as they are between couples that have average jobs w no big paycheck. Certain areas such as NYC and LA etc. (and perhaps ages are more focused on money etc, I don't know that since I never rolled in circles that had that as a main focus) . but in general, that is not what women go for, reflected in the majority of marriages.

I think part of the problem is what we go for, as I said so many times before - you are what you attract and what circles you roll in, gives you a frame of reference and what you see - that does not mean it is the general reality. Its what you see. Many times it takes for us, ourselves to change what we go for and a whole other world is opening up to us. Man, half this country has a messed up view on the opposite sex based on their own mistakes on picking the wrong mates, blaming their own mistakes on the whole opposite sex, when it is their problem picking the superficial dregs.

Like I say to both men and women that have this view: "your girl/man circle is broken, get a new one". I SO wish I lived close to you so I could be your wing woman:-)

Well said, FG.

Pretty much, women here are simply trying to make him see that his view is not the encompassing truth and give him other views that exists and other experiences... and he takes it as we think our view is the encompassing truth. We are not, we never have thought that - and I am glad you see that.

Lovely Drae is guilty of what he is accusing us of. We are merely trying to give him bits and pieces of other peoples reality and trying to make him realize that his view is not the encompassing truth. I think if he would be open to really listening, he would benefit from that by opening his heart to other possibilities as the world is not as grim and black and white as he sees it.

Exactly. If he was willing to listen & learn, he'd definitely benefit because he'd find many more opportunities in life for happiness instead of the limits he imposes on himself.


You fight so hard for your limitations, you're going to keep them. Think outside the box. If every woman you know is looking for the 'wrong things' or the 'same things' maybe the issue isn't so much that all women are like that as that you are only attracted to women like that.

And maybe that's worth examination.

It's very well worth examining.

Agreed. My experiences on the East Coast, Manhattan, and New England are completely different. I've always told people how amazed I'm with the openness, friendliness and aggressiveness, lol, or women in those areas. I have had more women, in their prime, lol, approach me in those areas than any other area I have ever visited. I've met wonderful people, I've been easily taken in their circles, and money or status has come up in discussions, only as a point of fact.

I completely agree that people will have bad experiences and as a consequence they become jaded. Their point of view changes as they create new reality and find ways to justify their realities, "studies", conversations with equally jaded people and chasing after the wrong people.

They often make the problem worse not realizing that their problems lie within and not with others. They assume that changing the demographics of their potential partners will solve their problems, a younger or older partner, a partner of a different race, a partner from a different country.

The reality is that if you can't find a partner within the dating pool of people you have more in common with culturally, you won't find it outside of that group of people, especially if you look to the cultural and language differences inherent in pursuing someone from another country.


I always advise my friends to have realistic expectations about a potential partner. Understand yourself and what you bring to the table and look for a compatible partner with whom you can build a long lasting relationship, rather than blindly pursuing an unrealistic dream. That's no harsh, it's a reality.

Anyway, that's how I see this issue.

Well said, Swirl. Folks need to realize that if the common denominator in every situation is them, they need to look at themselves & not at everyone else for the source of & the solution to the problem.

And to add (yes, I am a wee bit pissed off)

I am sick and tired of all this past their prime bull s*&^

I am fairly confident that if I was walking down the street with my hair down, make up on, and a pair of jeans on, half the men on here that are posting that shit would be sucking their their teeth, giving me the "Hey baby where you going" or just plain old whipping their heads around to get a look at my ass as I walk on by! How do I know? Because it happens to me every god damn day!

And that my friends is real talk!

Amen, Chai! That shit is older than all of us "past their prime" women on this board.

I have to wonder, Ms. Chai, if there's been an upswing in the past her prime crap since I showed up. If so, I'm sorry. I can't tell what happened before.

Maybe I should just go sit in my rocker and learn to knit instead of posting.

No worries, Pixie. That bs was being dumped on the forum long before you got here, so no rocking & knitting for you.
 
I am sure that you saw the mini aftermath that came after my posting. I have no animosity towards Dre and think he is an intellegent young man, but I chose to word my response to him a certain way because I wanted to see if he would respond & reply back in a certain way. And unfortunately he responded how I knew he would. Dre is always saying that he likes to engage in "honest debate", but "honest" for him is everything from his point of view. Being that he is and educated 30 year old man, if he were truly about engaging in honest debate then there was no need for him to respond as he did with me. He would have simply chose to engage as an adult without fear & with reason and countered what I had said with the truth & facts that he says he uses in debate. Instead he chose to response as he has on numerous other occasions on this forum by going the childish route and using what I call Ghetto Jedi Mind Tricks. It's basically the tactics that folks that have no interest in getting out of the ghetto & improving their lot in life use on others who do not wish to be part of the ignorance cycle & attempt to leave the environment or try to bring something positive into. They rather keep it "real" & "gangsta". And anyone not keeping it "real" & "gangsta" well.....I'm sure you know the deal and see the similarities.


Dre for all intents & purposes outed himself. It's more important for him to have control of the debates & disscussions here and that they spin his way, rather than face the possibity that he could be wrong on his POV. It's frustrating to see a bright man waste so much time & energy "debating" others on what he believes is "reality" rather than listen to what many intellegent women here, both American & non-American, have told he repeatedly on multiple occasions and excepting it as an actual possibility: You can change your "reality" if you chose to. But sadly he obviously doesn't seem to want to. And also sadly it not only Dre here on this forum who is like this.

All true & all very sad. It definitely applies to several folks around here.

It is unfortunate, but true. Quite a few on here have no interest in what really is going on, everybody is wrong in their eyes - and their way of viewing the world is the all encompassing truth - even though the majority tell them that it aint so.

I find it heartbreaking that they don't listen to others experience and try to discover that rather than pigeon hole themselves to a very limited and sad view - cheating themselves out of so much.
The stubbornness is mind numbing, why they do wanna stay in their own little limiting sad realm is just .. odd.
Why do you want to stay unhappy and bitter when there is so much more out there.

If we strike out w the opposite sex based on the same thing - why blame the opposite sex when the most likely answer is what you go for.

And this whole thing about all studies show that women only focus on money and career of the men is just laughable - what studies.. who made the studies... whats the source.. all studies, all experiences everywhere, in college, in media bla bla.. that is a bunch of lame crap that isn't true.
Drae IS very intelligent, why he chooses to ignore where he gets that information from, sources and motives behind it is beyond me. I guess because it makes him feel good that he is "correct". Of course these women exist, we all know that. Is it the majority, far from it. He picks and chooses "information" based on his view and clearly ignore the rest.

Poor Drae is missing out. He should be less interested in being right and more interested in opening up his heart, and eyes/ears to others views and possibilities and start to do some self evaluation. Its not unique to him, a lot of us need to do that, perhaps all of us at some point. I certainly have had to.

It's sad when folks do this shit to themselves. They miss out on life itself by being focused on shit that doesn't matter. Life is not about always being "right", but it's about learning & growing. That does require self-evaluation, which is important & necessary to reach the potential we all have within us.
 
Oh boy another selective reader. I am the only one I've noticed that faced with logic that I can't argue is honest enough to conceed. I am always willing to admit when someone has a point and it with my patented" fair enough". When we have debates about shit like this I am open to hearing other's pov but when I say I've read studies and posted them or documentaries about what I've learned its dismissed as evo pysch with absolutely no evidence on the contrary just a flippant" explore the world and see attitude. I don't just base everything on what I see I notice what other men on here post as well yet I'm just some crazy sheltered person pulling this out of my ass.

And let's be clear I only replied to you the way I did because of your passive aggressive attempt to try and call me out fam. If you have something to say to me the direct approach is the most efficient way.

I'm not trapped in a ghetto mind set. I often admit that a lot of the foreign women on this forum express and carry themselves in a way that makes me want to explore the world but it doesn't excuse what I see in the states in the women with in my age group. The late 20something to early 30 something crowd go through a desperate phase worrying about getting married and having kids. Is it everyone? Of course not but I see it often enough to think its extremely common.

And I know we have women on here who are quick to say not me that's not how I think" im not that way but let's consider something else. If you're on wwbm, if you're open to dating bm you're not of the norm anyway so using them as a sample of what's normal is a hard sell.


Not that is pure comedy my friend - I think you are one of the last ones on the forum to do so. Many many here do, you dont in general. You are the most stubborn on here when it comes to discussions and being right.
I love ya, but nope that statement if so untrue.
:rolleyes:
 
Not that is pure comedy my friend - I think you are one of the last ones on the forum to do so. Many many here do, you dont in general. You are the most stubborn on here when it comes to discussions and being right.
I love ya, but nope that statement if so untrue.
:rolleyes:

Lol...to give him some credit here, I have witnessed it a couple of times :D
 
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