The other side of the coin

[FRESH]

Did someone drop some blow on this thread lol

 

[goodlove]

I don't think there is much point in continuing this GQ. It's just OpenHeart and her friend that are just here to "play" with us, as OpenHeart reiterated in one of her earlier statements in this thread.[/QUOTE]

Go get that quote. You are such a pathetic liar. I play with YOU! That statement was not all inclusive. Go back and read it again. I do not play with those who I deem as men on this forum. I read some of your little self righteous posts and you are so wrong. I respect Sockervadd's opinion, but I disagree on the point where she stated that black women had a harder time during slavery. I disagree with that just as I do with black men who believe that only white men racially mistreated and oppressed them and not white women. Some black men feel they have to believe this is the way it happened so as to justify why they are so drawn to white women today. However, if the truth be told (which it is) history strongly reveals that black men and black women were oppressed and horribly mistreated by white people period. We as white women were no angels as we are being held to be in history by some black men.

So Mike you got it wrong this time. The horrific experiences were equal on both sides. When a black daugther turned 13, she was usually raped by the white master. The father had to stand aside and allow it to happen. Can you imagine the agonizing screams of that child? Can you imagine the pain of the father? the mother? the siblings? They all suffered. Moreover, when a black man was beaten and then hung? Who was there to grieve? Black women AND black men! Who was there to celebrate, even from as far as surrounding states??? We were...it was White men AND white women. They both laughed, celebrated and heckled the blacks who were there to grieve. White women threw big eat outs with food and drinks for everyone.

This is one of the reasons black women have been slower to date white than their male counterparts...orgasms nor money is enough for them to forget what happened in the past without an apology of some kind.

Sockervadd is Sockervadd. Stop trying to put us together in your mind as one. We are two different women. Do not think that she agrees with me on everything. We both speak our minds. You need to stop thinking that all white women should be "submissive" and easy to "control". You are an ignorant black man for believing such.

dear open and sockervadd,

It would be to your advantage to know that some people are just stupid and foolish. then there are people who dont like the fact you have your own mind.

Be blessed,

goodlove

 

[goodlove]

We need sistas in here? Did he forget what site this was?

the convo between me and gq was about who had it worst....blackmen or blackwomen during slavery until now...and I said if you gonna debate that you need some sistas.

boy ...read things in its context. smdh

 

[Mikey]

the convo between me and gq was about who had it worst....blackmen or blackwomen during slavery until now...and I said if you gonna debate that you need some sistas.

boy ...read things in its context. smdh

No we don't need them here. There's enough problems on here we have to deal with already.

 

[flaminghetero]

the convo between me and gq was about who had it worst....blackmen or blackwomen during slavery until now...and I said if you gonna debate that you need some sistas.

boy ...read things in its context. smdh

BW on WM/BW sites would NEVER say they need some Brothas on their forum for anything.

 

[flaminghetero]

No we don't need them here. There's enough problems on here we have to deal with already.

:smt023

 

[wtarshi]

Did someone drop some blow on this thread lol

:smt043:smt043

 

[flaminghetero]

:smt043:smt043

What's with your avi pic?

Who is that?

 

[wtarshi]

What's with your avi pic?

Who is that?

that's dolly peel, a notorious english fishwife

 

[flaminghetero]

that's dolly peel, a notorious english fishwife

Now I have to ask...what is a fishwife?

 

[MissWacy]

No we don't need them here. There's enough problems on here we have to deal with already.

this, wouldnt make any sense anyway

 

[goodlove]

this, wouldnt make any sense anyway

the convo between me and gq was about who had it worst....blackmen or blackwomen during slavery until now...and I said if you gonna debate that you need some sistas.

boy ...read things in its context. smdh

No we don't need them here. There's enough problems on here we have to deal with already.

BW on WM/BW sites would NEVER say they need some Brothas on their forum for anything.

to debate like the two people were doing about "who had it worst in america back during slavery until now" you will need representatives from both sides....man and a woman. since it is about slaves then it would need to be a BW and a BM.

to say a BM or a BW had it worst especially during slavery and thru the civil rights movement of the 60's and 70's is really a dumb argument. BW were raped beaten killed and seperated from their kids. men were beaten , killed lynched. both were targets of these things to be subjugated by the slaveowner and the racists system after slavery until the end of the civil rights movement.

you can make an argument now who has it worst BW and BM because we are now subjugated differently

 

[Mikey]

to debate like the two people were doing about "who had it worst in america back during slavery until now" you will need representatives from both sides....man and a woman. since it is about slaves then it would need to be a BW and a BM.

to say a BM or a BW had it worst especially during slavery and thru the civil rights movement of the 60's and 70's is really a dumb argument. BW were raped beaten killed and seperated from their kids. men were beaten , killed lynched. both were targets of these things to be subjugated by the slaveowner and the racists system after slavery until the end of the civil rights movement.

you can make an argument now who has it worst BW and BM because we are now subjugated differently

Goodlove, the site is called WhiteWomenBlackMen.com. The risk for having plenty of BW on here to debate the topic is too high. Most likely they will have conflicts with the BM and the WW who post on here.

 

[MissWacy]

Goodlove, the site is called WhiteWomenBlackMen.com. The risk for having plenty of BW on here to debate the topic is too high. Most likely they will have conflicts with the BM and the WW who post on here.

lol the militant ones would have a field day on here annoying the bm and ww members with all kinds of crap

 

[TERRASTAR18]

I know i just stated it since these gentlemen started saying bm had the hardest time.. All I said before that was that bw have had and has a hard time

well some ppl wil just insult you because they are insecure about different opinions. some of them forget marginalization is the greates insult of all.....black ppl are 2nd class citizens, women are 2nd class citizens, so i wonder what that makes black women? most black women's beauty is considered ugly by a white dominated society. look at the fashion runways and tv. look at bleached beyonce and blond wig wearing nicki minaj........most white women don't fit the image, so how can black women compare.....to me most black women have to act a certain way just to make it. just look at the campaign, and how they talked about presidential candidates' spouses: bill was a former president, lizzy had the cancer, but michelle was nitpicked like she was running. again i believe it goes down to being a strong black woman. they were scared of hillary but shitting bricks over michelle. it was only after she was marginalized, did her approval increase.

 

[flaminghetero]

well some ppl wil just insult you because they are insecure about different opinions. some of them forget marginalization is the greates insult of all.....black ppl are 2nd class citizens, women are 2nd class citizens, so i wonder what that makes black women? most black women's beauty is considered ugly by a white dominated society. look at the fashion runways and tv. look at bleached beyonce and blond wig wearing nicki minaj........most white women don't fit the image, so how can black women compare.....to me most black women have to act a certain way just to make it. just look at the campaign, and how they talked about presidential candidates' spouses: bill was a former president, lizzy had the cancer, but michelle was nitpicked like she was running. again i believe it goes down to being a strong black woman. they were scared of hillary but shitting bricks over michelle. it was only after she was marginalized, did her approval increase.

In America..

BW are above BM.

 

[The Dark King]

In America..

BW are above BM.

Save your breath brother some dummies never learn.

 

[OpenHeart]

Goodlove, the site is called WhiteWomenBlackMen.com. The risk for having plenty of BW on here to debate the topic is too high. Most likely they will have conflicts with the BM and the WW who post on here.

GL was only stating that to make a fair argument about who had it the hardest, you would have to have both sides represented. This was not an statement posted to be literally acted upon. This was a statement for comparision sake in fairness. He didn't mean that someone should actually start a thread and black women to give their opinions about who had it the hardest during slavery. He was just saying that if you wanted to discuss which gender had it the worse then you would have to have both sides represented in all fairness. That can take place anywhere...not here specifically. Do you understand now? OMG!

 

[flaminghetero]

Save your breath brother some dummies never learn.

They already know...but their agenda won't let them admit to it.

 

[Nico]

Im a black woman who has dated black and white men since I was a teen and now just date white men. I have no negative feeling whatsoever seeing white women with black men. I have had black guys chase me since I was 13 so I dont think white women have taken anything away from me. However I was doing a search for IR forums and found this one and couldnt believe all the biased against black women and just the misconceptions. Yes black women have given white women a hard time about dating black men but I do think it has died down some in recent years because black women are use to it. Regardless there is another side to it and I think people should acknowledge both.

I read on here white women dont give black women a hard time for dating white men because white women are not threatened by black women. Well I gotta disagree there. Not only have I been hated on by white women when I date white guys but ww who date bm have ALWAYS felt threatened by me. Yes alot of bm like ww but alot of black men still like black women as well and more black men are gonna say Beyonce or Meagan Good is his ideal versus Olivia Munn or kate Beckinsale. You dont think a white girl is threatened by a GORGEOUS black woman? The type that black men love and one thats universally hot that all men like? Im not Meagan Good but I have modeled in the past and for a woman thats not a celebrity, Im very attractive. White women expect to be the center of attention even when they arent attractive and this is not reality. When I was in highschool I went out of my way to befriend the white girls that dated black guys but it got to the point one of them didnt even want me going out with them because all the black guys wanted me. Most white women who ive befriended that has had a black boyfriend, the black guy has tried to holla at me behind her back and make horrible remarks against white women. Im not jealous. I have a white boyfriend. Ive never felt white women were the enemy but its just not fair to act like black women are the only ones threatened.

Not all black women are like precious and those are the ones white women feel more comfortable with. The ones like me THEY CANT STAND. Women are threatened by women. As far as the white standard of beauty, I dont think its that way anymore. I dont think black women are the standard, im not in denial about that but I think its somewhere in between black and white. Most men of all races I ask their type of girl and they say EXOTIC. They like multiracial, they like mixed race latina and they like asian. If they do say white girls shes a brunette. I dont think Ive heard a guy say they liked blondes since the 90s. Honestly it is CHANGING. If anything black women are more threatened by biracial half black and latina women then your average white girl because thats what black men like. The black guys that white girls are dating dont tend to be black womens type anyway.

And how can you guys say bw/wm receive no flak? OMG I wish that were true. White girls are sly and sneaky about their disapproval but its there trust me. Its just white girls get away with it since they are often seen as "delicate" and innocent" but ask your average white man (which a big number prefer asian women anyway) and they dont think white women are all that feminine and delicate. Im not trying to be racist but I was SHOCKED by all the hate towards black women. It derives partially from jealousy. Ive received that jealousy from white women. Yes its there. Have my east indian and latina friends gotten more attention than me when we go out? YES. Have white women? NO. So I think its a load of bull that black women are just so threatened by white women. Even when I go to white establishments with my white friends, I get hit on by the white guys more because as a really hot black woman, I stand out and its something their not use to. White girls are not competition for the exceptionally hot black women but other minorites are.

When things are one way for so long they start going in another direction. Thats just the way life is. In the 80's it was all about Blondes and now its exotic and multiracial women. I just dont see any evidence that white girls are still the standard. Look how many white men love asian women and white men say the SAME EXACT THINGS about white women that black men do us. So why arent white women blamed for white men leaving? Black women are just blamed for everything. I dont think the black men who idealize the white standard of beauty on this site represent all or even most black men or even a good number of white men. And yes white women who date black men are VERY MUCH threatened. Why do they always stop and kiss in front of me? lmao I dont even care!!! Their men are never my type.

Amen to that Sista.