The other side of the coin

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Eye of Ra said:
Just my observation but as I stated to Openheart, two reasons why she gets looked as a troll : her constant harping about the negative things she perceives here and her lack of humanizing and making herself relatatable too people here. Even if Openheart for arguments sake is a Black woman, and joined here with positive intentions, then she should not be focused on the perceived negative things here but on making positive contributions if she supports IR as awhole, because her focusing on the negative her is only heightening the percepetion of those here who already think she's Black, creating tension and ammo in and of itself for those against IR. As I said to her in one of my post to her be a solution to the negative here, don't add to it by focusing on it.
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I got ya. we agree then. It is just people want to see what they want to see.

It is all about sensitivity and clarification
 
mikesandy said:
I don't know why. I know that every other race is more open to interracial dating except black women and that is the confusing thing to figure out why that is.
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naw they are marrying white men left and right...they just dont want us doing the samething.

they were marrying WW rite after slavery..it has been documented.

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goodlove said:
naw they are marrying white men left and right...they just dont want us doing the samething.

they were marrying WW rite after slavery..it has been documented
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Ok then. Why is there a need for a double standard between black women and black men? Do BW expect to attract only BM and WM and force it on BM that it's wrong to date WW? There are only so many around in an increasingly diversified country. There's an explosion of Hispanics and Asians based on the 2010 caucus, and the racial dynamics in the country are changing.

Don't you think there would still be resentment from some BW when they see a BM with a light skinned Hispanic or Asian girl?
 
mikesandy said:
Ok then. Why is there a need for a double standard between black women and black men? Do BW expect to attract only BM and WM and force it on BM that it's wrong to date WW? There are only so many around in an increasingly diversified country. There's an explosion of Hispanics and Asians based on the 2010 caucus, and the racial dynamics in the country are changing.

Don't you think there would still be resentment from some BW when they see a BM with a light skinned Hispanic or Asian girl?
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its called foolishness.
 
goodlove said:
its called foolishness.
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So if that was what people were bashing BW over, why did you feel a need to defend them and people similar to OpenHeart?

You have to explain what the "catalyst" was for them to bash BW, not that they were just doing it. If you can do that, we can get somewhere.
 
Veronica1986 said:
Im a black woman who has dated black and white men since I was a teen and now just date white men. I have no negative feeling whatsoever seeing white women with black men. I have had black guys chase me since I was 13 so I dont think white women have taken anything away from me. However I was doing a search for IR forums and found this one and couldnt believe all the biased against black women and just the misconceptions. Yes black women have given white women a hard time about dating black men but I do think it has died down some in recent years because black women are use to it. Regardless there is another side to it and I think people should acknowledge both.

I read on here white women dont give black women a hard time for dating white men because white women are not threatened by black women. Well I gotta disagree there. Not only have I been hated on by white women when I date white guys but ww who date bm have ALWAYS felt threatened by me. Yes alot of bm like ww but alot of black men still like black women as well and more black men are gonna say Beyonce or Meagan Good is his ideal versus Olivia Munn or kate Beckinsale. You dont think a white girl is threatened by a GORGEOUS black woman? The type that black men love and one thats universally hot that all men like? Im not Meagan Good but I have modeled in the past and for a woman thats not a celebrity, Im very attractive. White women expect to be the center of attention even when they arent attractive and this is not reality. When I was in highschool I went out of my way to befriend the white girls that dated black guys but it got to the point one of them didnt even want me going out with them because all the black guys wanted me. Most white women who ive befriended that has had a black boyfriend, the black guy has tried to holla at me behind her back and make horrible remarks against white women. Im not jealous. I have a white boyfriend. Ive never felt white women were the enemy but its just not fair to act like black women are the only ones threatened.

Not all black women are like precious and those are the ones white women feel more comfortable with. The ones like me THEY CANT STAND. Women are threatened by women. As far as the white standard of beauty, I dont think its that way anymore. I dont think black women are the standard, im not in denial about that but I think its somewhere in between black and white. Most men of all races I ask their type of girl and they say EXOTIC. They like multiracial, they like mixed race latina and they like asian. If they do say white girls shes a brunette. I dont think Ive heard a guy say they liked blondes since the 90s. Honestly it is CHANGING. If anything black women are more threatened by biracial half black and latina women then your average white girl because thats what black men like. The black guys that white girls are dating dont tend to be black womens type anyway.

And how can you guys say bw/wm receive no flak? OMG I wish that were true. White girls are sly and sneaky about their disapproval but its there trust me. Its just white girls get away with it since they are often seen as "delicate" and innocent" but ask your average white man (which a big number prefer asian women anyway) and they dont think white women are all that feminine and delicate. Im not trying to be racist but I was SHOCKED by all the hate towards black women. It derives partially from jealousy. Ive received that jealousy from white women. Yes its there. Have my east indian and latina friends gotten more attention than me when we go out? YES. Have white women? NO. So I think its a load of bull that black women are just so threatened by white women. Even when I go to white establishments with my white friends, I get hit on by the white guys more because as a really hot black woman, I stand out and its something their not use to. White girls are not competition for the exceptionally hot black women but other minorites are.

When things are one way for so long they start going in another direction. Thats just the way life is. In the 80's it was all about Blondes and now its exotic and multiracial women. I just dont see any evidence that white girls are still the standard. Look how many white men love asian women and white men say the SAME EXACT THINGS about white women that black men do us. So why arent white women blamed for white men leaving? Black women are just blamed for everything. I dont think the black men who idealize the white standard of beauty on this site represent all or even most black men or even a good number of white men. And yes white women who date black men are VERY MUCH threatened. Why do they always stop and kiss in front of me? lmao I dont even care!!! Their men are never my type.
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You're crazy, insecure & you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Tarshi said:
back up noob. karms & smoothie are not suspect :smt018
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Exactly. That's just silly to even suggest it.


Bug said:
Blahh blahh more black women bullshit.

Go away don't come back,
the threads on this Forum relate to WW and BM relationships not anyone elses take on things.
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I love the way you think woman.

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Love it!

xoxo said:
:smt009 :smt009

Not just ignorant, or an ignorant man, but an ignorant Black man. Since when do the WW on here use such conflation of words?
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Since never.

MrFantastic said:
The OP was definitely a troll you do know that right? She brought this up to stir shit up.
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Of course she is & did. That was her first & only post. That says it all right there.


FG said:
OMG, Is GL STILL on that shit?
Not even on ignore can I get away from his never ending rant.
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I was thinking the same thing.

This thread is a trip. Obviously the OP has issues; I think prayer & counseling would do her some good. I want to thank Des, Mikey & Ra for speaking up on my behalf; it's much appreciated. After I read the original post the day it was posted, I didn't have the energy to even bother with it. I had a feeling we wouldn't hear much else, if anything, out of her anyway.
 
Tamstrong said:

You're crazy, insecure & you don't know what the hell you're talking about.
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You would have to be to sign up just to post that. Can you imagine going to a site for WM/BW just to say that WM/BW are jealous when they see you with BM.
 
xoxo said:
You would have to be to sign up just to post that. Can you imagine going to a site for WM/BW just to say that WM/BW are jealous when they see you with BM.
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No doubt about that. I couldn't imagine that without imagining the mob coming after me with their torches & pitchforks.
 
desreveRsIgnitirW said:
GoodLove why haven't you replied my email,I hope "Will Smith" is not scared.
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Bitch pleeze. you want me to change my signature you come down here and do it or just shut the fuck up.




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From: Mario L <mariofromnewyork
To: willsmith
Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 10:03:02 PM
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When ever you purchase the bus ticket buddy,I'm coming at YOUR expense.



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Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 10:19:59 -0700
From: willsmith
To: MarioFromNewYork


when are you coming ?
 
goodlove said:
Bitch pleeze. you want me to change my signature you come down here and do it or just shut the fuck up.




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From: Mario L <mariofromnewyork
To: willsmith
Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 10:03:02 PM
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When ever you purchase the bus ticket buddy,I'm coming at YOUR expense.



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Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 10:19:59 -0700
From: willsmith
To: MarioFromNewYork


when are you coming ?
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Clearly we see I'm the one who sent the last email,why haven't you replied?

Your signature will be the least of your concerns when I hop off that bus.

I'mma be sittin on that GreyHound bus for 18 hours so I'll be twice as mad when I get off.
 
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