The other side of the coin

Precious1986 said:
Im a black woman who has dated black and white men since I was a teen and now just date white men. I have no negative feeling whatsoever seeing white women with black men. I have had black guys chase me since I was 13 so I dont think white women have taken anything away from me. However I was doing a search for IR forums and found this one and couldnt believe all the biased against black women and just the misconceptions. Yes black women have given white women a hard time about dating black men but I do think it has died down some in recent years because black women are use to it. Regardless there is another side to it and I think people should acknowledge both.

I read on here white women dont give black women a hard time for dating white men because white women are not threatened by black women. Well I gotta disagree there. Not only have I been hated on by white women when I date white guys but ww who date bm have ALWAYS felt threatened by me. Yes alot of bm like ww but alot of black men still like black women as well and more black men are gonna say Beyonce or Meagan Good is his ideal versus Olivia Munn or kate Beckinsale. You dont think a white girl is threatened by a GORGEOUS black woman? The type that black men love and one thats universally hot that all men like? Im not Meagan Good but I have modeled in the past and for a woman thats not a celebrity, Im very attractive. White women expect to be the center of attention even when they arent attractive and this is not reality. When I was in highschool I went out of my way to befriend the white girls that dated black guys but it got to the point one of them didnt even want me going out with them because all the black guys wanted me. Most white women who ive befriended that has had a black boyfriend, the black guy has tried to holla at me behind her back and make horrible remarks against white women. Im not jealous. I have a white boyfriend. Ive never felt white women were the enemy but its just not fair to act like black women are the only ones threatened.

Not all black women are like precious and those are the ones white women feel more comfortable with. The ones like me THEY CANT STAND. Women are threatened by women. As far as the white standard of beauty, I dont think its that way anymore. I dont think black women are the standard, im not in denial about that but I think its somewhere in between black and white. Most men of all races I ask their type of girl and they say EXOTIC. They like multiracial, they like mixed race latina and they like asian. If they do say white girls shes a brunette. I dont think Ive heard a guy say they liked blondes since the 90s. Honestly it is CHANGING. If anything black women are more threatened by biracial half black and latina women then your average white girl because thats what black men like. The black guys that white girls are dating dont tend to be black womens type anyway.

And how can you guys say bw/wm receive no flak? OMG I wish that were true. White girls are sly and sneaky about their disapproval but its there trust me. Its just white girls get away with it since they are often seen as "delicate" and innocent" but ask your average white man (which a big number prefer asian women anyway) and they dont think white women are all that feminine and delicate. Im not trying to be racist but I was SHOCKED by all the hate towards black women. It derives partially from jealousy. Ive received that jealousy from white women. Yes its there. Have my east indian and latina friends gotten more attention than me when we go out? YES. Have white women? NO. So I think its a load of bull that black women are just so threatened by white women. Even when I go to white establishments with my white friends, I get hit on by the white guys more because as a really hot black woman, I stand out and its something their not use to. White girls are not competition for the exceptionally hot black women but other minorites are.

When things are one way for so long they start going in another direction. Thats just the way life is. In the 80's it was all about Blondes and now its exotic and multiracial women. I just dont see any evidence that white girls are still the standard. Look how many white men love asian women and white men say the SAME EXACT THINGS about white women that black men do us. So why arent white women blamed for white men leaving? Black women are just blamed for everything. I dont think the black men who idealize the white standard of beauty on this site represent all or even most black men or even a good number of white men. And yes white women who date black men are VERY MUCH threatened. Why do they always stop and kiss in front of me? lmao I dont even care!!! Their men are never my type.
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Sounds like we have another drag queen up in here.
 
goodlove said:
Milk if you are going to qoute me get it right and use all the posts that he put up.

also T look at the thread he mentioned ...I wasnt the only one thinking the same (as bros are concern).

again and again we are derailing the topic
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And you're still mad because you suck and you're a fucking dumbass. :smt043
 
sockervadd said:
ohh i thought u meant it in a sarcastic way.. haah like, did u grow up under a rock..

thank u :)
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Nah not at all. Some of the men on here have dealt with such bs from bw in the past that they are quick to be defensive and rightly so. The trolls just won't leave us be for some reason and we need people like you to be fair and unbiased.
The original poster said things I didn't like but I couldn't just dismiss some her well made points. Truth is truth whether we like it or not.
 
sockervadd said:
well I think she has some interest in this site since she came here.. duuuh

and she wsn't discussing who likes who, she was discussing who bash who-- and as a black woman I feel she has all the rights to tell us how she reacted to what she has read here..

I thought this was a discussion forum bout ww dating bm.. and I feel she was discussing just that...?? or are we banning black women from this site?? #apartheid
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Frankly this whole subject matter bores me, that is the point of me saying live one's life as it makes you happy. I was referencing interests in one's personal life as far as relationships and what makes a person happy.

Its why I say people ought to just live their lives and focus on their personal relations.

What does what a black man say on here or a black women say on another forum accomplish, absolutely nothing. Doesn't mean jack in the end.

I don't have to convince myself of why I like what I like, I go for it.

She wasn't discussing anything but her slanted views that she wanted to get across about all black women not being "Precious", black men not black women type, white girls are sly and sneaky and get away with things, white women expect to be the center of attention and insecure.

Frankly she came across as the insecure one spending more time seemingly berating white women with a broad brush about BM/WF relationships. Something that is notorious for happening when someone sees a black male and white female together, out come the stereotypes and suppositions about two people they don't know from A-Z.

I don't know where you live but you are seemingly very naive if you think this person showed up here to be altruistic in her post.

Just like she can say all that drivel, I will say I don't give a shit about folks who think like her. Its a two way street I guess.
 
MrFantastic said:
Nah not at all. Some of the men on here have dealt with such bs from bw in the past that they are quick to be defensive and rightly so. The trolls just won't leave us be for some reason and we need people like you to be fair and unbiased.
The original poster said things I didn't like but I couldn't just dismiss some her well made points. Truth is truth whether we like it or not.
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Its not even that bro, its just that I don't even care frankly, I'm not checking for what any other person does in their life or who said what or didn't say what. That has no bearing on me as a grown ass man.

I don't feel the need to or think anything about it when I see a black woman with a white man, I simply do not concern myself about it.

I have seen so many labels and stereotypes said about black men who date white women and vice versa, I just soldier on and am not the least bit concerned.

If you are a confident individual, secure in your life and relationship, you don't have the time to care about what others think. I'll walk in the middle of Mudville, Mississippi holding hands with a white woman if that is where I am.

I live my life for my own happiness, irrespective of others views. I doubt I am the only person like that in the world.
 
flaminghetero said:
Go eat Black pussy somewhere else...seriously.

To them you're just an ugly "Becky" that can't get a WM.
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sockervadd said:
I don't care if they stop them or not.. I just don't care.. just generalizing a whole group as Black Women, telling me how they act and who they fuck...

For all I care every single black woman alive cud hate me, I still wudn't talk shit about em cus they are BW..

+ talking shit bout bw is sending out a message that we approve all the racism going on.. since ww haven't been thru all that I don't find it as offensive

and hate will only lead to more hate,

i hope u suck a black dick everytime u bitch bout racism urself...
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flaminghetero said:
Save your tears...in all too many cases BW were busy sexing racists...like Strom Thurmond..No wonder they respond with so much racism against WW and BM.

Your beloved BW don't stop WM from talkin about your ass(or mine) like a dog...

Go eat Black pussy somewhere else...surely there's a lesbian site for ww/bw.:smt006
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sockervadd said:
because it's not in my interests.. I basically don''t care if anyone tells me Im white trash or whatever they say... but that doesn't mean she can't be upset..

+ ww haven't the same history as bw, esp in the states where actually ww got voting rights before bw, they have been put thru so much more racism than ww.
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flaminghetero said:
Stop being so defensive...We're wary of trolls on this site...and rightly so...MANY of your precious bw have come here starting trouble.

Why don't you go to WM/BW sites and police the shit they say about BM and WW all the time??????

Hmmmm..
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MrFantastic said:
Agreed
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sockervadd said:
well I think she has some interest in this site since she came here.. duuuh

and she wsn't discussing who likes who, she was discussing who bash who-- and as a black woman I feel she has all the rights to tell us how she reacted to what she has read here..

I thought this was a discussion forum bout ww dating bm.. and I feel she was discussing just that...?? or are we banning black women from this site?? #apartheid
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wow
 
GQ Brotha said:
Its not even that bro, its just that I don't even care frankly, I'm not checking for what any other person does in their life or who said what or didn't say what. That has no bearing on me as a grown ass man.

I don't feel the need to or think anything about it when I see a black woman with a white man, I simply do not concern myself about it.

I have seen so many labels and stereotypes said about black men who date white women and vice versa, I just soldier on and am not the least bit concerned.

If you are a confident individual, secure in your life and relationship, you don't have the time to care about what others think. I'll walk in the middle of Mudville, Mississippi holding hands with a white woman if that is where I am.

I live my life for my own happiness, irrespective of others views. I doubt I am the only person like that in the world.
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That's great.. but i didn't get the impression it was the ww/bm thing she was discussing.. she just wanted to make us aware how she as a black women felt bout some of the opinions that has been expressed bout black women..


now instead of thinking about if that is a thing u wd do or not, can't u just read it and reflect cus even tho u don't want to date bw i certainly hope u don't want then to think that u think less of em...
 
GQ Brotha said:
Its not even that bro, its just that I don't even care frankly, I'm not checking for what any other person does in their life or who said what or didn't say what. That has no bearing on me as a grown ass man.

I don't feel the need to or think anything about it when I see a black woman with a white man, I simply do not concern myself about it.

I have seen so many labels and stereotypes said about black men who date white women and vice versa, I just soldier on and am not the least bit concerned.

If you are a confident individual, secure in your life and relationship, you don't have the time to care about what others think. I'll walk in the middle of Mudville, Mississippi holding hands with a white woman if that is where I am.

I live my life for my own happiness, irrespective of others views. I doubt I am the only person like that in the world.
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you should be confident in who you are.....I bought the diary of a tired black man. what you saw was he drove up with a white woman to pick up his child and he stated what most of us stated but he never degraded anyone. his thing was Im dating this ww because she bring me peace. end the of the movie/documentary he ends up with a black woman. he inteviews a slew of black men who cosigns on everything we say here but they are still dating black woman and some date ww.

end the end it is about finding peace and not having to degrade someone esle just to get it..

GQ Brotha said:
Frankly this whole subject matter bores me, that is the point of me saying live one's life as it makes you happy. I was referencing interests in one's personal life as far as relationships and what makes a person happy.

Its why I say people ought to just live their lives and focus on their personal relations.

What does what a black man say on here or a black women say on another forum accomplish, absolutely nothing. Doesn't mean jack in the end.

I don't have to convince myself of why I like what I like, I go for it.

She wasn't discussing anything but her slanted views that she wanted to get across about all black women not being "Precious", black men not black women type, white girls are sly and sneaky and get away with things, white women expect to be the center of attention and insecure.

Frankly she came across as the insecure one spending more time seemingly berating white women with a broad brush about BM/WF relationships. Something that is notorious for happening when someone sees a black male and white female together, out come the stereotypes and suppositions about two people they don't know from A-Z.

I don't know where you live but you are seemingly very naive if you think this person showed up here to be altruistic in her post.

Just like she can say all that drivel, I will say I don't give a shit about folks who think like her. Its a two way street I guess.
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she stated stuff in some areas I agree and disagree but overall she is in the ball park
 
MrFantastic said:
Nah not at all. Some of the men on here have dealt with such bs from bw in the past that they are quick to be defensive and rightly so. The trolls just won't leave us be for some reason and we need people like you to be fair and unbiased.
The original poster said things I didn't like but I couldn't just dismiss some her well made points. Truth is truth whether we like it or not.
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well, glad my swedish ass just misunderstood it then :P

everyone has dealt with bs in their lives, question is if u wanna let that bs affect u the rest of ur life..
 
sockervadd said:
well, glad my swedish ass just misunderstood it then :P

everyone has dealt with bs in their lives, question is if u wanna let that bs affect u the rest of ur life..
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that is so correct...2 wrongs dont make a right. It is stupid to put down BW for whatever reason.

the past should be a teacher and not to be the birther of hate in the now and future.

to many people are living in the world of hating for no reason
 
goodlove said:
that is so correct...2 wrongs dont make a right. It is stupid to put down BW for whatever reason.

the past should be a teacher and not to be the birther of hate in the now and future.

to many people are living in the world of hating for no reason
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Haha if those men are that full of hate cus some women have been bitching Id freaking start the third world war reacting like them..

I live and learn, BUT I always leave a door open that I might have come to the wrong conclusion, even towards people I know have acted like a-holes in the past...
 
sockervadd said:
Haha if those men are that full of hate cus some women have been bitching Id freaking start the third world war reacting like them..

I live and learn, BUT I always leave a door open that I might have come to the wrong conclusion, even towards people I know have acted like a-holes in the past...
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real talk. I just dont get it
 
sockervadd said:
That's great.. but i didn't get the impression it was the ww/bm thing she was discussing.. she just wanted to make us aware how she as a black women felt bout some of the opinions that has been expressed bout black women..


now instead of thinking about if that is a thing u wd do or not, can't u just read it and reflect cus even tho u don't want to date bw i certainly hope u don't want then to think that u think less of em...
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If this individual was secure in herself as a confident woman none of this would be of any significance to her. Didn't you state yourself that you don't care what folks think of you.

I'm a black man in America so I don't even need to explain the historical baggage that comes with that. Black men are thugs, black men are convicts, black men are deadbeat, black men are cheaters, etc.

I'm not going to sit around lamenting or having a chip on my shoulder about it. I know what my personal characteristics are and how I interact with others, I give respect to get respect, whether you are a black woman, Asian man, white man, or whatever else. Its just my value system as I was raised to deal with others. I think less of no one as someone who shares an interest in and embraces other cultures.

When it comes to my personal relationships in life however I owe an explanation to no one, not even my own mother about my preferences.

I'm a very individualistic person and so I define myself not letting others do that for me, so no matter what is said about black men, I know better as one and so will live my life just fine.
 
GQ Brotha said:
If this individual was secure in herself as a confident woman none of this would be of any significance to her. Didn't you state yourself that you don't care what folks think of you.

I'm a black man in America so I don't even need to explain the historical baggage that comes with that. Black men are thugs, black men are convicts, black men are deadbeat, black men are cheaters, etc.

I'm not going to sit around lamenting or having a chip on my shoulder about it. I know what my personal characteristics are and how I interact with others, I give respect to get respect, whether you are a black woman, Asian man, white man, or whatever else. Its just my value system as I was raised to deal with others. I think less of no one as someone who shares an interest in and embraces other cultures.

When it comes to my personal relationships in life however I owe an explanation to no one, not even my own mother about my preferences.

I'm a very individualistic person and so I define myself not letting others do that for me, so no matter what is said about black men, I know better as one and so will live my life just fine.
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so isnt it that the same thing when bros dog BW for whatever reason...IE BW are loud and ugly or if a person states I still date WW and BW and bros call you uneducated for dating BW or call you a BW loyalist.

so why are they sooo threatened by that
 
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