Excellent point, repped. Elin is lucky to be with Tiger, mofo benefited so much money and US citizenship coz of Tiger Woo Woo connection.
Tiger Woods’ ex-wife bulldozes $12 million home
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Excellent point, repped. Elin is lucky to be with Tiger, mofo benefited so much money and US citizenship coz of Tiger Woo Woo connection.
GQ Brotha
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The only thing about Tiger is he dogged her out, cheated on her with numerous women and he broke up their family.
Was she not giving him enough ass at home, withholding sex as a weapon, etc.
These are things that only they know, but he stepped out on the marriage and created the dynamic that came about in the relationship.
So hard for me to see him as a victim.
Now if Tiger was a good, heavenly, do no wrong, God fearing man and she served him divorce papers, slept with the gardener and called him a nigger during arguments for the hell of it and ran off with his assets that is one thing, but Tiger was the one that was the adulterer spouse. So he can only look at himself, what did Ellen do wrong as far as not being faithful to the relationship.
If we want to speak of men being dogged out in the court system, Tiger and Ellen are not the examples, but certainly lots of dudes are weary of the courts and divorce in this day and age.
Was she not giving him enough ass at home, withholding sex as a weapon, etc.
These are things that only they know, but he stepped out on the marriage and created the dynamic that came about in the relationship.
So hard for me to see him as a victim.
Now if Tiger was a good, heavenly, do no wrong, God fearing man and she served him divorce papers, slept with the gardener and called him a nigger during arguments for the hell of it and ran off with his assets that is one thing, but Tiger was the one that was the adulterer spouse. So he can only look at himself, what did Ellen do wrong as far as not being faithful to the relationship.
If we want to speak of men being dogged out in the court system, Tiger and Ellen are not the examples, but certainly lots of dudes are weary of the courts and divorce in this day and age.
Loki
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Very true, Tiger behaved shamefully and has only himself to blame for the awful and very public damage he did to his family and reputation.
If accounts as to how he went about his cheating are true, I wonder if perhaps on some unconscious level he was trying to get caught because he knew he was out of control and could stop on his own. I mean there are reports of the guy out and about at clubs and such with his mistresses with very public displays of affection, numerous buddies acting to procure phone numbers and shuttling women back and forth, he had to know with that many people involved, sooner or later a tabloid or somebody would call him out.
GQ Brotha
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You have to wonder indeed.
The funny thing is people always saw Tiger as squeaky clean image-wise.
Until this story broke of his numerous exploits, as he was seemingly hell bent on catching up to Wilt Chamberlain for sexual escapades with women
The Dark King
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You have to wonder indeed.
The funny thing is people always saw Tiger as squeaky clean image-wise.
Until this story broke of his numerous exploits, as he was seemingly hell bent on catching up to Wilt Chamberlain for sexual escapades with women
Dude was a saint compared to Wilt. 20 chicks vs 10,000 lol
I don't think he's a victim but I don't think she is either personally. I think this was a great lesson for women world wide. Stop holding out for tall rich and handsome because he can and more likely than not will cheat on you because he can. Like you said he was squeaky clean but even he couldn't commit for life and his wife is great looking but how important is that to a guy who could have 20 hot chicks in every state
This is also another good lesson for dudes. Iron clad prenup with an infidelity clause that's in your favor. You have far more to lose period. Pushing out babies makes them deserving of nothing other than being a mom. Especially in a situation like that. She should have gotten the home the kids lived in and 3 million. More than most of us will ever see in our lives and that's it.
She was not a hardworking stay at home mom like Tarshi or some of the other women on this forum she was a nanny who lived like a lottery winner period the end.
swirlman07
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You are way off base as well. The issue of how when he made the majority of his wealth was secondary to the discussion. The ONLY reason that someone would highlight that distinction is in support of an unreasonable belief that her settlement should've been smaller. You've incorrectly suggested that I stated Tiger secured most of his endorsements prior to his marriage, I didn't. It's no revelation that sponsors dropped him because of his adultery, that's fairly well known.
It's ridiculous to think that Tiger is getting endorsements because of his play. He's still out of the top 100, I think, I haven't checked lately. To date, since the divorce he's had few 10 top finishes. It's his name recognition that keeps the endorsements, not his sterling play, at least at this juncture. This fact is borne out looking at John Daley, someone who was once a good player but has played dismally for many years. Yet, he continued to get endorsements for many years of poor play. You also must look at the companies providing him with the new endorsement deals, international companies, European companies. Europeans, where infidelity is seen throughout political and business life as a norm, had a decidedly different view of Tiger. The point is that not his play that's providing endorsements, it's his name recognition. Even in his worst days, his income as an athlete was 10's of millions of dollars more than the next person in line.
It's completely UNTRUE that injuries have prevented his winning. He has gone through coaching changes, swing changes and most important, as many golfing experts have pointed out, the divorce fiasco, which was the test of his ability to focus. By his own admission, the divorce weighed on him, affected his practice. But, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that distractions of that magnitude would affect anyone. Perhaps, just perhaps he'll get back on solid footing and win again. It's what golf needs because without him in the mix, the sport will continue to suffer.
Bottom line, peace of mind allows anyone to be at their best. He had a good marriage, he played well, he made lots of money. Sponsors, at least here in the states, appreciate the idea of a family man rather than a lecherous adulterer, as a promoter of their products. That's undisputed. When his image was tarnished, he lost sponsors, that's real money, gone. He didn't receive the same amount of appearance fees and his winnings were negligible. Replacing sponsors doesn't "make up" for lost money, that money is gone forever. So, his net worth would've been higher in several regards, sponsors would not have dropped him. He wouldn't have had the distraction of the family issues to affect his play and his tournament winnings, and he wouldn't have had to pay out $100 MILLION DOLLARS.
And I was merely joking around at what you called swirlman. Sheesh, someone needs to relax.
And btw, you dont know me at all. I'm quite the classy guy. I like to joke around and have fun on here, try it sometime.
The Dark King
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Umm that's exactly what it does. It's like having a mutual fund if one stock slumps and others perform well the overall fund is healthy.
Peace of mind isn't the end all be all dude just needs to recover its only been 2 years its not like Tiger is anywhere close to done. Kobe went through worst and won some chips and Michael Jordan had to deal with far worst and won three in a row. Tiger is a fucking champion he'll land on his feet. This Elin thing is a bump in the road.
Tony Soprano
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So what's the over/under on this thread getting to 50 pages by the end of the weekend? I'm noticing a lotta long-windedness on this topic. lol
swirlman07
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Umm that's exactly what it does. It's like having a mutual fund if one stock slumps and others perform well the overall fund is healthy.
Peace of mind isn't the end all be all dude just needs to recover its only been 2 years its not like Tiger is anywhere close to done. Kobe went through worst and won some chips and Michael Jordan had to deal with far worst and won three in a row. Tiger is a fucking champion he'll land on his feet. This Elin thing is a bump in the road.
Dude, I thought that you were smarter than you just indicated. If you have $1million dollars, lose it, and make $1million the next year. You've not replaced the money you lost. It's gone forever. If you hadn't lost the million from the previous year, you'd now have $2million dollars. Surely, that's not a difficult concept??
Peace of mind equates to focus is definitely the be all and end all in a game of inches like golf. It's that peace of mind, focus, that allowed him to make putts that he now routinely doesn't make, and that usually spell the difference in victory. But, who said that he was done. Of course he can recover, and I expect him to recover, as the great ones always do. The issue is whether he'll ever be on top again, it's that "this Elin thing" created enough discord in his mojo to affect his career. I'm one of his biggest supporters, in case you don't know.
Sexism at it's finest. What if SHE made the money? Is he gonna push out the babies? Should she have a prenup?? You are lame.
You wouldn't know that this was already hashed in another thread about them. Ad nauseum.
It was 42,000 pages long.swirlman07
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Well, I will say that he doesn't know much about pre-nuptial agreements. Pre-nuptial agreements aren't a "I can do as I please and leave you high and dry agreement". Any attorney will tell you that the more restrictive you make the pre-nup, the greater the likelihood that it may be overturned later during a divorce proceeding. Pre-nuptial agreements, like any "contract", have to be fair to both parties, period. Otherwise, it's better for a guy to find a surrogate mother or adopt if he's that concerned about holding on to most amount of money. Of course, a lot of money may be lost in dating over the years.
The Dark King
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Personal insult. Im outraged lol. Go suck an egg.
If she were the one to have more assets then she should get a prenup but in this case she was a nanny who married a rich guy. So if we use swirl's argument that its about being fair to both parties how is 100 million fair? She had kids but those kids are more of a blessing for her than him considering she gets to spend more time with them. Especially in her situation where she didn't have to sacrifice career or income to do so. So I stand by argument all she did was incubate and push out some kids. That's the extent of her contribution to the marriage. He was the provider that allowed a lifestyle should would have nevr achieved. Sorry truth hurts kid.
The Dark King
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Nice jab swirl. Strike one.
Any accountant or person in business would call that an offset of losses. So on a balance sheet he would have made a million that year. Or you can look at it as a sunk cost, the price of doing business. He learned a good lesson and now he's single and can do what he wants.
Any accountant or person in business would call that an offset of losses. So on a balance sheet he would have made a million that year. Or you can look at it as a sunk cost, the price of doing business. He learned a good lesson and now he's single and can do what he wants.
The Dark King
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Do you know what the word sexism means?
swirlman07
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LOL, Come on, as if I don't get a steady stream of jabs from you...On the financial side, I don't agree with that analysis, at all. I'm a business person and I'd never consider that a sunk cost of the price of doing business??? There's no rationale for such treatment. But, of course we also know that you can't take the fiction of GAPP accounting and apply to personal finances...
The Dark King
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Tiger Woods is a business, a franchise at least that's how I see him.
swirlman07
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I'd say that's a bit of a misnomer. Tiger Woods, or Eldridge Woods, is a person with business interests. Income from tournaments and endorsements flow to him personally, but you know that, yes?? He must treat his businesses in a different fashion as he files both personal and business returns. Remember the distinction in how income and losses are treated in business as opposed to an individual? Let's see, something about when realized as apposed to incurred...Surprised??
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