Trayvon Martin's Murder

Seriously, thank God we have a justice system where you'e innocent until proven guilty, and that a person isn't convicted upon the volition of the mob and the rantings of an angry woman.

You don't know what happend, and I don't know what happened. You don't convict someone on those conditions. Have a lovely day.

And then there are some of us who feel as though we were born guilty.

http://tv.msnbc.com/2012/12/13/its-as-if-we-were-born-guilty-the-central-park-five/

Justice system is not infallible, no matter how badly you want to believe that it is.
 
Should they have targets in the shape of klansmen or Southern bible thumpers the way right-wingers took aim at these?

trayvon-target.jpg


(sorry for the hyperbole, this just pissed me off)

they shouldn't but they can. that's the way it goes. It's in the constitution
 
Wow, does this story get any more bizarre??? :smt017


George Zimmerman Emerged From Hiding for Truck Crash Rescue
By MATT GUTMAN and ALEXIS SHAW | Good Morning America – 1 hour 4 minutes ago

George Zimmerman, who has been in hiding since he was acquitted of murder in the death of Trayvon Martin, emerged to help rescue a family who was trapped in an overturned vehicle, police said today.

Zimmerman was one of two men who came to the aid of Dana and Mark Gerstle and their two children, who were trapped inside a blue Ford Explorer SUV that had rolled over after traveling off the highway in Sanford, Fla. at approximately 5:45 p.m. Thursday, the Seminole County Sheriff's Office said in a statement.

The crash occurred at the intersection of I-4 and route Route 46, police said. The crash site is less than a mile from where Zimmerman shot Martin.

By the time police arrived, two people - including Zimmerman - had already helped the family get out of the overturned car, the sheriff's office said. No one was reported to be injured.

Zimmerman was not a witness to the crash and left after speaking with the deputy, police said.

It's the first known sighting of Zimmerman since he left the courtroom following his controversial acquittal last week on murder charges for the death of Martin. Zimmerman, 29, shot and killed Martin, 17, in Sanford, Fla., on Feb. 26, 2012. The jury determined that Zimmerman shot Martin in self-defense.

http://gma.yahoo.com/george-zimmerm...sh-rescue-174553647--abc-news-topstories.html

Someone speculated... 'What if had been someone on their way to kil him??'... :?
 
And then there are some of us who feel as though we were born guilty.

http://tv.msnbc.com/2012/12/13/its-as-if-we-were-born-guilty-the-central-park-five/

Justice system is not infallible, no matter how badly you want to believe that it is.

They got false confessions ^ . Very sad... reminds me of the West Memphis Three, except they sat on Death Row...Our system does not always listen to facts. Often power hungry Prosecutors want convictions, justice be damned...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Memphis_Three
 
Um, don't you think you NEED your gun more than ever to protect yourself from this nutjob? But hey, go ahead and concede your gun. :smt039 :smt006

this just brought me back to the port Arthur massacre and the reason why Australia has gun control laws.
 
Wow, does this story get any more bizarre??? :smt017


George Zimmerman Emerged From Hiding for Truck Crash Rescue
By MATT GUTMAN and ALEXIS SHAW | Good Morning America – 1 hour 4 minutes ago



Someone speculated... 'What if had been someone on their way to kil him??'... :?

There are no coincidences in life. Feels staged to me
 
TDK, if there weren't 2 kids involved in the crash, I might buy the staged.


Sounds about as real as "you got a problem? you do now!"

this guy should be a screenwriter
Haha, maybe he should team up with this guy! v v v (classic BB) :rolleyes:

GZ told the truth on what happened when Trayvon got shot.

But he did not tell the whole truth. GZ story has too many holes and inconsitencies that do not match with the forensic evidence.

Everything GZ said that took place going up to confronting Tray was true.

What probably happened was there was no full blown fight between them, just shoving and shit talking with GZ trying to keep Trayvon from getting away before the police arrived.

Neighbors heard the commotion, some looked out there window, some or just one person came outside. Everybody knew it was GZ outside with someone. (Now remember, it came out that GZ had met with tenants discussing about the recent burglaries)

GZ and Tray got more intense with their pushing and shoving and grabbing each other. At some point GZ firearm came out and fell. GZ was unaware he lost his firearm.

Trayvon got more agitated and began getting the upperhand over GZ. A neighbor approached and saw the firearm on the ground, maybe thinking it belonged to Trayvon, panicked when he/she saw Trayvon getting more aggressive and shot Trayvon.

When the smoke cleared, they became aware it was GZ firearm, not Trayvon.

GZ knew all hell would break out if the police saw that someone other than GZ fired that gun. GZ knew he is 100% responsible for that firearm and is not to let it out of his possession. GZ would get automatic involuntary manslaughter with a big prison sentence and whoever fired that gun would get murder.

They had plenty of time to clean the gun of prints and get stories "straight".

The question is who pulled the trigger? Who had a lot to lose more than GZ for GZ to take the heat?

I doubt West or Omara knew about this and they were just being your typical American assholes trying to defend their client.
 
Wow, does this story get any more bizarre??? :smt017


George Zimmerman Emerged From Hiding for Truck Crash Rescue
By MATT GUTMAN and ALEXIS SHAW | Good Morning America – 1 hour 4 minutes ago



Someone speculated... 'What if had been someone on their way to kil him??'... :?

Sounds like bullshit to me.
 
Convicted or not George Zimmerman is a dead man walking.

He knows it.
Anyone with more than 6 brain cells knows it.
Rescuing people in chance car wrecks will not help his standing in 'murica.

He's marked.

And the person who kills him will probably have no remorse..seeing as how he got away with murdering a CHILD (seriously? Even THIS needs to be spelled out?).

That's real and justified vigilantism.
 
Convicted or not George Zimmerman is a dead man walking.

He knows it.
Anyone with more than 6 brain cells knows it.
Rescuing people in chance car wrecks will not help his standing in 'murica.

He's marked.

And the person who kills him will probably have no remorse..seeing as how he got away with murdering a CHILD (seriously? Even THIS needs to be spelled out?).

That's real and justified vigilantism.

Seriously, everybody said that about Casey Anthony too. She's still alive....somewhere, making youtube videos about herself. The public interest in this case is dwindling, and the fever pitch has gone down from last week. This isn't the Wild West. I very much doubt that someone is going to risk spending the rest of their life in prison just to kill George Zimmerman.
 
Seriously, thank God we have a justice system where you'e innocent until proven guilty, and that a person isn't convicted upon the volition of the mob and the rantings of an angry woman.

You don't know what happend, and I don't know what happened. You don't convict someone on those conditions. Have a lovely day.

Our existing justice system and our jurisprudence process is totally immaterial and totally inconsequential to the people you are trying to reach.....to them, the trial was unfairly conducted with unfair jurors and was all for naught........
 
Nope.... just saying our justice system is not without flaw and jurors do not always get it right. Some of us are still capable of thinking for ourselves, having our own thoughts and opinions and coming to our own conclusions.

If the jury found GZ guilty, would you still be on your perch proclaiming your love for a justice system that just sent your boy to prison?
 
If the jury found GZ guilty, would you still be on your perch proclaiming your love for a justice system that just sent your boy to prison?


No. They would be in here talking about how the jurors were all overly emotional females incapable of using any logic and adhering to "facts" and how they were clearly influenced by an overly biased & "liberal"media or white guilt or some other influencing factors from their POV.
 
If the evidence was substantial enough, I would have no problem with it. But the evidence in this case wasn't even remotely convictable, yet some people, like Ra, see it as a slam dunk case that should've returned a guilty verdict. Not even close.
 
If the evidence was substantial enough, I would have no problem with it. But the evidence in this case wasn't even remotely convictable, yet some people, like Ra, see it as a slam dunk case that should've returned a guilty verdict. Not even close.


Unlike you I'm using common sense. Once Zimmerman chose to step out of his vehicle everything that happened afterwards is pure speculation. Not evidence. Not fact. If that's how you see it then that's your right. Just stop trying to convince other people that their opinions on this are wrong. Thank You.
 
Unlike you I'm using common sense. Once Zimmerman chose to step out of his vehicle everything that happened afterwards is pure speculation. Not evidence. Not fact. If that's how you see it then that's your right. Just stop trying to convince other people that their opinions on this are wrong. Thank You.

How are you using common sense by saying a man should be convicted by speculation?
 
How are you using common sense by saying a man should be convicted by speculation?

I will ask you this question that I have asked you before and received no reply: Why are you so invested in what other people think about this whole matter? Why do you keep coming back to this thread and jumping on anyone whose opinion on this differs from your own in anyway?
 
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