Trayvon Martin's Murder

orejon4 said:
The modern gun rights movement was arguably started by fear of the armed Black Panthers in California. Article HERE:
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Huey Newton was always a badass. I always respected him for trying to feed the poor children of america and shaming this country into the program.
I don't agree with everything he does but the man is fierce.
 
remember folks when a good guy and a bad guy are in a gun fight. the bullets go around as you are not good guy or bad guy:p


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does anyone know what that prick Robert Zimmerman Junior does for a living
he is very articulate in fact most like an attorney
 
All white jury: check
White person that killed a black person: check
Amerikkka and system of White supremacy: check
What did you guys think the ruling was going to be? People that know racial politics knew he was going to be acquitted. It's not surprising but what i'm interested in is the response worldwide (the world knows about America and the racial problems. They also know how White Americans detest blacks).
 
EmperorLelouch said:
All white jury: check
White person that killed a black person: check
Amerikkka and system of White supremacy: check
What did you guys think the ruling was going to be? People that know racial politics knew he was going to be acquitted. It's not surprising but what i'm interested in is the response worldwide (the world knows about America and the racial problems. They also know how White Americans detest blacks).
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I kept my mouth shut about the mostly white jury. You are suppose to be judged by peers. Just hard for me to believe that this was peers. Just like when I was on an all male jury during a domestic violence case. Even that wasn't all white.

That being said from legal perspective it was the right call. not enough evidence. terrible but true. We all need to walk around with our video phones and maybe a gun. catch crap happening.
 
EmperorLelouch said:
All white jury: check
White person that killed a black person: check
Amerikkka and system of White supremacy: check
What did you guys think the ruling was going to be? People that know racial politics knew he was going to be acquitted. It's not surprising but what i'm interested in is the response worldwide (the world knows about America and the racial problems. They also know how White Americans detest blacks).
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Reasonable doubt? Check.
 
archangel said:
I kept my mouth shut about the mostly white jury. You are suppose to be judged by peers. Just hard for me to believe that this was peers. Just like when I was on an all male jury during a domestic violence case. Even that wasn't all white.

That being said from legal perspective it was the right call. not enough evidence. terrible but true. We all need to walk around with our video phones and maybe a gun. catch crap happening.
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How interesting. What was the crime? Why do you think they picked you?
And what was the verdict?
 
Just like Emmitt Till a White killer goes free with a young Black male's murder. There is a very long list of this and this is now the 21st Century. No question Fox News and other right wing websites are celebrating the verdict that a White male can get away with Mr.Martin's killing. I hope Mr.Martin's family cleans out Mr.Z's family in a civil suit. It is just shocking and I could imagine if O.J. was found guilty they would call it justice done. The most sad part about this was that Carolyn Wright the WW whom Till whistled at is still alive and will get away with it til her dying breath.
 
Im at the Dbacks game with the fam, will comment on this very sad but predictable verdict later. Until then, i will say it again, often times
the law has nothing to do with justice
 
the defense would like to tell you this case is not about race

but if you know the court system the two major influencers are money and race
 
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It turned out this wasn't Zimmerman's first run-in with the law. He had previously been accused of domestic violence by a former girlfriend, and he had also previously been arrested for assaulting a police officer. More controversially, in July 2012, an evidence dump related to the investigation of Martin's death revealed that a younger female cousin of Zimmerman's had accused him of nearly two decades of sexual molestation and assault. In addition, she had accused members of Zimmerman's family, including his Peruvian-born mother, of being proudly racist against African Americans, and recalled a number of examples of perceived bigotry.

A woman with close ties to George Zimmerman and his family told investigators that members of Zimmerman’s family were boastfully proud racists and that for more than a decade Zimmerman sexually molested her.

“It started when I was six,” the woman told investigators during an interview on the morning of March 20. “We’d all lay in front of the TV and we had pillows and blankets and he would reach under the blankets and try to do things and I would try to push him off but he was bigger and stronger and older,” the woman said, audibly weeping in the Florida State Attorney's Office interview recording released Monday. “It was in front of everybody and I don’t know how I didn’t say anything, I just didn’t know any better.”

The woman, identified in various reports and in taped interviews with investigators as witness 9, said that from the age of six to 19 Zimmerman repeatedly fondled her, at times penetrating her vagina with his finger.

A number of news sources have reported that the woman is a relative of the Zimmerman family, though her exact relationship to Zimmerman was redacted from the interview recording. Zimmerman's legal team, in a statement released later Monday night, identified the woman as a cousin.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1335984.html
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Hate to say, but I'm not surprised about zimmerman's mom.

1. Most (not all but most) nonwhite women who marry white men are strident bigots. They use it to bond with their white guy, to make themselves more worthy. Plus they're often overcompensating for an inferiority complex and think hating blacks makes them more white.

2. Middle class and upper middle class central and south americans are almost invariably anti-black bigots - especially the "mestizo" and "indigenous" middle and upper class ones. The little brown people really overcompensate, and turn their hate on black people.

Based on decades of experience, I don't presume any white male/nonwhite female couple are going to be decent to me. Not saying they can't be decent, but I know the racial politics all too well, and I wouldn't put myself out there trying to be social with them. Sound shocking coming from someone who dates around the rainbow, but I've seen too much to ignore the patterns.
 
orejon4 said:
The modern gun rights movement was arguably started by fear of the armed Black Panthers in California. Article HERE:
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First let me say andreboba, if I could rep you I would. System says I gotta spread it round. Black men, especially in florida, should STAY STRAPPED and prepared to shoot as soon as someone lays hands on you. The law isn't going to be fair to us, but that only underscores the fact that we have a bigger, more systematic problem than the ground-level wolves like zim... yes, right here in an age when we're waving flags and singing yankee doodle dandy.

Haha -- we're begging to be patriots even as people have the tacit right to accost, yank around then kill our children, even as technology is coming to a point where eyes in the sky, spies on the web, genetic engineering, social engineering, etc. etc. is making any organized resistance more and more futile.

But to Orejon's point. Yes of course, the episodic run on guns is invariably tied to the issue of race. 9/11? A run on guns. Why? This was back in the day when black men still had the reputation of converting to Islam, like mike tyson did, like a lot of black men often did in prison, like John Muhammad (DC sniper) did. Even rap artists were saying shit like Jeru the Damaja's line: "cause I blow up spots like the world trade center". I think they were less worried about osama than the fact that blacks might side with osama.

Obama first elected? A run on guns. First thought in everyone's head was like that old eddie murphy routine about how the first black president would be dodging bullets - and what might ensue in the wake of it.

The gun crowd use the line that they need their guns to resist government, but obviously it's about race. I watched a show recently where they had an old crusty gun-worshipper explaining why his ilk needs all their firepower. He trotted out the line about resisting government. Then when the show host asked him why other cultures abroad don't seem to need guns in the same way, he said something to the effect of "Those cultures are more homogenous, less diverse."

Those fools have always horded guns in anticipation of race war. Guns and race have always been tied, since the days when they were blowing apart little indian children with shotguns and complaining how certain guns make too much splatter.
 
andreboba said:
The standard is REASONABLE DOUBT, not 'beyond a shadow of a doubt', meaning is it reasonable to assume a scared teenager being followed on his way home by a stranger in a car is the one really responsible for the minor fight that ensued and his own murder???

I hope every Black man of age in Florida applies for a concealed carry permit and always leaves the crib strapped.

Just to even the odds.

These yokels couldn't even find it in their narrow minds to find Zimmerman guilty of manslaughter.

This verdict implies EVERY ONE of Zimmerman's actions that night were fair and justified.

Got it.

If anyone has a doubt about the institutional and cultural racism that still is rampant throughout American society, no Black man in a million years would be found innocent of the same charges if it was an unarmed White teen who was murdered by a self appointed neighborhood watch captain named Leroy.

Not really that surprised by the verdict.

If you actually SEE how nervous some White people get merely in the presence of an adult Black male, which has happened to me personally since the age of 14, it's not a stretch to convince of jury of 6 women-fuck that 'mother' shit-that Trayvon's ghost might rise up from the grave and knock Zimmerman out.
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Agree 100%.

And it's not just the idiotic nervous racists to worry about. let's not discount how assholes act when they think they can get away with murder. Also how they front, front, front, when they're on-edge, armed and scared. This verdict is going to haunt a lot of black male teens in florida. Maybe all over the country.

If you actually SEE how nervous some White people get merely in the presence of an adult Black male,
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People also see the stark and obvious spiritual grudge many white men have against "the black man" aaall over the internet, and try to act like they can't imagine how it plays out at ground level.
 
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The 'law' just protected an overzealous killer.

It's a good thing for America that they've effectively thrown the black community into disarray, otherwise there might be an organized response out of the community to this travesty.
 
goodlove said:
i was a fool to serve for this motherfuckng country.
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Nah you weren't a fool. Black people want to believe in this country. Even I would like to. But realistically, we cannot. Especially black men.

Ironically, we're now "americans" to all those out in the world who hate americans. But here at home? Not so much.
 
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