Trayvon Martin's Murder

The Dark Knight said:
He gave up self defense claims by stalking him with a weapon. That's it
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Actually thinking logically, and enforcing the law only applies when there is a white victim. The concept that stalking someone with a weapon, and ignoring the police telling you not to follow, and then end up shooting said person would be considered a crazed vigilante.

Honestly its cases like this that makes me wonder how many white on black murders are simply classified as self defense? This only got covered because the mainstream media decided on doing it. If there was no media coverage Zimmerman would be walking. The way this legal system is structured police seem to ignore white people, and just go after black people.


That is why the meth problem among suburban, and rural white people is not ever discussed on mainstream news. The fact a white women aged 77 for dealing a bunch of drugs is not something that people are going to be mainstream news. Nationwide it seems police departments generally dont give a fuck about law, and order unless your not white or there is a white victim to a crime.
 
MixedCalifornian said:
Actually thinking logically, and enforcing the law only applies when there is a white victim. The concept that stalking someone with a weapon, and ignoring the police telling you not to follow, and then end up shooting said person would be considered a crazed vigilante.

Honestly its cases like this that makes me wonder how many white on black murders are simply classified as self defense? This only got covered because the mainstream media decided on doing it. If there was no media coverage Zimmerman would be walking. The way this legal system is structured police seem to ignore white people, and just go after black people.


That is why the meth problem among suburban, and rural white people is not ever discussed on mainstream news. The fact a white women aged 77 for dealing a bunch of drugs is not something that people are going to be mainstream news. Nationwide it seems police departments generally dont give a fuck about law, and order unless your not white or there is a white victim to a crime.
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Because there's no sympathy for treating minorities like shit. This case is a great example. Like you said had the victim been white the perp no matter the race would have been a crazed vigilante but since the victim is black you actually have people arguing that dude was just a little over zealous. Its completely ignored that he stalked him (sorry GOP advocates you don't get to call it "following" when you're armed) even after being told not to do so not to mention the flimsy police work that screams cover up.
Its easier for the masses to blame the dark boogie men because they aren't forced to look at their own sins and there's enough of us for them to never run out of monsters to fight off.
 
Bliss said:
According to reports, Paramedics came and cleaned his wound. He declined to be taken to the Emergency. We have said for a while now - the paramedics report will be interesting.

True about getting close to the scene. Again, the time stamp tells u when it was taken. If it was before the squads arrived, then there was no one to stop that person getting close.
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Is there a time stamp on that picture? I work a lot so I can't watch the news and stuff.

If that picture is time stamped then it did not come from an iPhone. Those aren't automatically stamped with time. Dates yes. Not times.
 
From the blog "We Are Respectable Negroes"

Saturday, April 21, 2012
George Zimmerman's Non-Apology to Trayvon Martin's Family: I Am Sorry For Your Loss and That Your Son Ran Into a Bullet Which I Fired

George Zimmerman was quite the contrite killer during his bond hearing. In an act of great self-sacrifice and generosity he took the stand and offered up the following apology to the family of the murdered Trayvon Martin:

Zimmerman, 28, appeared in court in a dark suit and gray tie, and, in a surprising move, took the stand. There, in a voice verging on meek, he apologized to the family of Trayvon Martin, the 17-year-old he admits he shot—but only, he says, in self-defense.

“I wanted to say I am sorry for the loss of your son,” he said to the parents, who attended the hearing in the central Florida city of Sanford, where the shooting took place. “I did not know how old he was. I thought he was a little bit younger than I am, and I did not know if he was armed or not.”

As a student of language and semiotics, I would suggest that the latter part of Zimmerman's statement is particularly rich with meaning. Context is key to the analysis of language. Language also constructs meaning through unstated assumptions shared by speaker and audience; oftentimes a speaker--here being Zimmerman--can run into a crisis of communication when the listener does not share his unstated priors and worldview.

Zimmerman is part of a collective consciousness that views all black people as adults regardless of their age. Because African Americans, especially men, have no right to self-defense in their person against White authority (it is rarely mentioned that Trayvon Martin had every right to "stand his ground") all bets are off. Zimmerman is working through this logic as he basically suggests that if Martin were younger, then the presumption of being armed and dangerous may not have applied.

However, because common sense dictates that all black men are armed, at all times, and have the magical ability to transform harmless objects into guns or knives, Zimmerman was acting under a reasonable person's standard of behavior. Anyone approaching a black man would naturally assume that the latter was especially and uniquely capable of deadly force. Thus, Zimmerman's appeal to shared community norms is a basic one: anyone in his position would have reasonably and naturally assumed that a black teenager wearing a hooded sweatshirt in the rain and carrying a bag of candy is an imminent and deadly threat.

Zimmerman's statement of "apology" to Trayvon Martin's family is one of the most honest and pronounced distillations of the White Gaze and its debased view of black humanity which we as a country have witnessed in many years. If one ever wondered about the existential dilemma faced by black masculinity in American society, or was searching for an object lesson in how black folks are "niggerized," look no farther than George Zimmerman's "apology" for committing murder.

Zimmerman can assault plain clothes cops, batter his fiancée, ignore police directives, stalk innocent people, carry a weapon in violation of his vaunted "black watch" rules, and shoot unarmed people without doubt or worry. Moreover, it takes a national uproar to even have him properly investigated and eventually arrested on suspicion of having committed murder. Let a black man do the same and see what happens. It does not take a leap of faith, or radical act of imagination, to understand how divergent the outcome would be.

Ultimately, Zimmerman is a murderous clown. As such, and in keeping with the national tragedy and three ring circus that is the color line in America, Zimmerman will find martyrdom as he is a stand-in for every white conservative ever accused of racism or racial bias. During the days and weeks to come, the script will be flipped as he becomes the object of a cause celebre. In this grotesque play, George Zimmerman is the good man done wrong by the system. Trayvon Martin is simply collateral damage.

Those blacks end up dead, in jail, or lying in the morgue for days unclaimed anyway. So what is the measure of a black man's life, one that is doomed to failure, against the shining star and bright future of "good" men like George Zimmerman?
 
orejon4 said:
Saturday, April 21, 2012
George Zimmerman's Non-Apology to Trayvon Martin's Family: I Am Sorry For Your Loss and That Your Son Ran Into a Bullet Which I Fired

George Zimmerman was quite the contrite killer during his bond hearing. In an act of great self-sacrifice and generosity he took the stand and offered up the following apology to the family of the murdered Trayvon Martin:

Zimmerman, 28, appeared in court in a dark suit and gray tie, and, in a surprising move, took the stand. There, in a voice verging on meek, he apologized to the family of Trayvon Martin, the 17-year-old he admits he shot—but only, he says, in self-defense.

“I wanted to say I am sorry for the loss of your son,” he said to the parents, who attended the hearing in the central Florida city of Sanford, where the shooting took place. “I did not know how old he was. I thought he was a little bit younger than I am, and I did not know if he was armed or not.”

As a student of language and semiotics, I would suggest that the latter part of Zimmerman's statement is particularly rich with meaning. Context is key to the analysis of language. Language also constructs meaning through unstated assumptions shared by speaker and audience; oftentimes a speaker--here being Zimmerman--can run into a crisis of communication when the listener does not share his unstated priors and worldview.

Zimmerman is part of a collective consciousness that views all black people as adults regardless of their age. Because African Americans, especially men, have no right to self-defense in their person against White authority (it is rarely mentioned that Trayvon Martin had every right to "stand his ground") all bets are off. Zimmerman is working through this logic as he basically suggests that if Martin were younger, then the presumption of being armed and dangerous may not have applied.

However, because common sense dictates that all black men are armed, at all times, and have the magical ability to transform harmless objects into guns or knives, Zimmerman was acting under a reasonable person's standard of behavior. Anyone approaching a black man would naturally assume that the latter was especially and uniquely capable of deadly force. Thus, Zimmerman's appeal to shared community norms is a basic one: anyone in his position would have reasonably and naturally assumed that a black teenager wearing a hooded sweatshirt in the rain and carrying a bag of candy is an imminent and deadly threat.

Zimmerman's statement of "apology" to Trayvon Martin's family is one of the most honest and pronounced distillations of the White Gaze and its debased view of black humanity which we as a country have witnessed in many years. If one ever wondered about the existential dilemma faced by black masculinity in American society, or was searching for an object lesson in how black folks are "niggerized," look no farther than George Zimmerman's "apology" for committing murder.

Zimmerman can assault plain clothes cops, batter his fiancée, ignore police directives, stalk innocent people, carry a weapon in violation of his vaunted "black watch" rules, and shoot unarmed people without doubt or worry. Moreover, it takes a national uproar to even have him properly investigated and eventually arrested on suspicion of having committed murder. Let a black man do the same and see what happens. It does not take a leap of faith, or radical act of imagination, to understand how divergent the outcome would be.

Ultimately, Zimmerman is a murderous clown. As such, and in keeping with the national tragedy and three ring circus that is the color line in America, Zimmerman will find martyrdom as he is a stand-in for every white conservative ever accused of racism or racial bias. During the days and weeks to come, the script will be flipped as he becomes the object of a cause celebre. In this grotesque play, George Zimmerman is the good man done wrong by the system. Trayvon Martin is simply collateral damage.

Those blacks end up dead, in jail, or lying in the morgue for days unclaimed anyway. So what is the measure of a black man's life, one that is doomed to failure, against the shining star and bright future of "good" men like George Zimmerman?
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He will go free believe that my friend the police made sure of that.

This just happened in my home town and has me sick right now. A black man's life is worth nothing in this country despite service or innocence.
http://www.lohud.com/article/201204...lains-police-officer-Steven-Hart-shouted-slur
 
The Dark Knight said:
He will go free believe that my friend the police made sure of that.

This just happened in my home town and has me sick right now. A black man's life is worth nothing in this country despite service or innocence.
http://www.lohud.com/article/201204...lains-police-officer-Steven-Hart-shouted-slur
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I'm sorry to hear that happened. Hope Steven Hart gets the death sentence or life in prison.

Also to what you said in bold, try to be happy that there are white men and women in this country which believe the opposite. It should be the majority of them, as well.
 
Man, that story about Mr. Chamberlain was sad. So now being drunk in your own apartment and angry about police coming in can get you killed? Can't say I'm surprised, though.

These sad accounts are happening so much that maybe we should consolidate Trayvon's case and other similar ones into a Police Brutality thread. SMDH.
 
Eye of Ra said:
But according to him he comprehends quite well. The rest of us however, not so much it seems.
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Of course he thinks he can comprehend quite well.
I've never really met anyone who blatantly said I'm fucking stupid and proud of it. I've never been to alabama yet tho, so maybe theres hope.
J/k...since i seem to have explain somewhere in my snarky posts that i am indeed being snarky. :rolleyes:

But seriously, when you have 4 out of 5 members saying "what?" to his posts...i don't think the problem lies with those 4 members.
 
Alinoa said:
Of course he thinks he can comprehend quite well.
I've never really met anyone who blatantly said I'm fucking stupid and proud of it. I've never been to alabama yet tho, so maybe theres hope.
J/k...since i seem to have explain somewhere in my snarky posts that i am indeed being snarky. :rolleyes:

But seriously, when you have 4 out of 5 members saying "what?" to his posts...i don't think the problem lies with those 4 members.
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Stop being nice with the 4 or 5 members. :cool:
 
The Dark Knight said:
Do you know how to read?
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The Dark Knight said:
I didn't blame white people or the GOP I gave an accurate observation of what happens.

I just found out about this and it happened in my home town (scares the fuck out of me) and I heard about it from UK news publication no less.
http://www.lohud.com/article/201204...lains-police-officer-Steven-Hart-shouted-slur
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Damn, speaking of comprehension , reading skills etc....

You JUST found out about it?? :confused:

There's almost 100 posts on that very story over the past week,
and guess who was the #1 poster?? :smt039

Who Posted?
Total Posts: 97

User Name Posts

The Dark Knight 19
Iggy 16
chesbaygrl7 12
goodlove 8
pettyofficerj 7
paniro187 6
Alectrona 6
Nebula J 3
Centreville 3
luvattractivewomen 3
Refugee 2
Bliss 2
GQ Brotha 2
Maddex843 1
andreboba 1
JordanC 1
BACU 1
89sounds 1
Eye of Ra 1
kapeci8 1
Mikey 1

http://www.whitewomenblackmen.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21287
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Alinoa said:
Of course he thinks he can comprehend quite well.
I've never really met anyone who blatantly said I'm fucking stupid and proud of it. I've never been to alabama yet tho, so maybe theres hope.
J/k...since i seem to have explain somewhere in my snarky posts that i am indeed being snarky. :rolleyes:

But seriously, when you have 4 out of 5 members saying "what?" to his posts ...i don't think the problem lies with those 4 members.
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I think you could say that applies to not just one person. :o
 
Bliss said:
Damn, speaking of comprehension , reading skills etc....

You JUST found out about it?? :confused:

There's almost 100 posts on that very story over the past week,
and guess who was the #1 poster?? :smt039





I think you could say that applies to not just one person. :o
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Did I actually comment on the story? Check it out
 
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