TRUMP Thread

andreboba said:
Stop trying to scapegoat Obama whenever Trump decides to do dumb shit.
Trump's ban on ANYONE entering the U.S. from Iraq, Syria, Iran, Yemen, Somalia, Sudan and Libya for 90 days, no matter what, is NOTHING at all like Obama's administration halt of processing Iraqi refugee for 6 months in 2011.

Obama's actions were a response to a specific terrorist plot by Iraqi refugees in Kentucky attempting to send aid to Al Qaeda who didn't disclose their previous terrorism ties.
Even while Obama put a halt on processing new Iraqi visa, Iraqi refugees were still being admitted into the country.

What were Trump's reasons for attempting to block the entry of citizens from the 7 countries I listed, even if they had green cards, or were attending university in the United States, or had gone back home briefly to visit relatives??
There was no 'reason', except Trump didn't want Muslims coming into the country and the courts recognized it.
There was no imminent threat, there was no diplomatic crisis.
Trump was just being Trump, which means a White nationalist bigot.

The POTUS isn't a king.
Trump can't make declarations that are unconstitutional. Every court in the country where the Trump administration tried to get his Muslim ban enforced rejected it because the parameters were too broad.

This is the 3rd iteration of Trump's travel ban, which now includes Venezuela(wtf??), Chad and North Korea.lol

There is no end date for Trump's latest ban. Makes sense. Because it's temporary.smh.

You may disagree with Yates' legal position, but don't act like she was a part of conspiracy to gum up the works for the Trump administration.
Apparently the Supreme Court, a federal court in Hawaii and a court in Maryland agreed with her.
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A quick FYI.. Trump never declared Green card holders..that was stupid Immigration officers in NY who didn't know what to do, so they banned everyone. It was chaos. Very bad communication.


Wow...Obama only targeted Iraq?

Here you go..

https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/158/text

That refers to a 2015 act, signed into law by Obama, revising the United States’ visa waiver program. The visa waiver program allows citizens from 38 countries to enter the United States without a visa for up to 90 days.
Under the legislation, citizens of those 38 countries who had traveled to Iraq, Syria, Iran, and Sudan after March 2011 were no longer eligible for the visa waiver. Libya, Yemen, and Somalia were later added to the list.

Andreboba, I'm really surprised to hear you spout that every court in the land said what Trump did was unconstitutional, when you know for a fact that the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals is heavy-loaded with liberal judges - it was only three judges in total, not every court in the land, and as you know the most Supreme Court of the land agreed with President Trump on Monday.
What are you not understanding, seriously?

The U.S. Supreme Court on June 26 gave a partial approval to the Trump administration's emergency request to put the president's travel ban into effect immediately while the legal battle continued.
On Monday, June 4th, 2017, the High Court ruled (7-2) the law can be enforced in full.
o_O

AB, You know his ban is not unconstitutional. You can't excuse your political biases and ignorance by saying it was "too broad", - nothing really adjusted from the original ban, except some countries. Like it or not, he has legal executive oversight on immigration.

Section 212(f), states:
“Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.”
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Furthermore....

Section 212(f) after 1965. In 1981, President Ronald Reagan used it to bar “any undocumented aliens arriving at the borders of the United States from the high seas,” while in 1986, he used it to bar Cuban nationals, with some exceptions. In 1994, Bill Clinton used it to bar anyone in the Haitian military or government affiliated with the 1991 coup d’état that overthrew the democratically-elected president. Ten years later, George W. Bush used it to bar corrupt members of the government of Zimbabwe from entering the U.S. And in 2012, Barack Obama used it to bar hackers aiding Iran and Syria.


 
Mueller knew in August that married FBI lawyer who worked with Mueller, exchanged 10,000 texts with her anti-Trump agent lover who was a key player in Mueller's Russia probe and helped clear Hillary.
 
ANOTHER Mueller investigator comes under scrutiny: Attorney on Russia probe is revealed to have previously represented the Clinton Foundation

A member of special counsel Robert Mueller's legal 'dream team' is also coming under scrutiny, this time for her prior work providing legal representation for the Clinton Foundation.

Jeannie Rhee is a former Deputy Assistant Attorney General at the Justice Department, where she worked in the office of legal counsel.

But it is some of her past work as a private lawyer that is now drawing attention, as Republican investigators and outside media turn their focus on members of Mueller's team.

Rhee joined a legal team that defended the Clinton Foundation from a racketeering lawsuit...
Rhee also represented Obama security advisor Ben Rhodes as he negotiated a congressional investigation in connection with the 2012 Benghazi attacks. Rhodes was one of Obama's most trusted advisors.
 
Since1980 said:
Comments like this make kinda sad that I hid Bliss, but my tolerance for nonstop goalpost moving, deflection, hypocrisy, and conspiracy-based nonsense is only so high.
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Feature works like a charm. If you don't watch fox news, or associate with the confederate flag waving breitbart crowd, then why read their shitty posts?
 
I hope Bliss is paying attention to the violent protests that have already started in Jerusalem after Friday prayers.

I hope she's cool with the death toll to follow all because our current POTUS is a full bred idiot.
 
andreboba said:
I hope Bliss is paying attention to the violent protests that have already started in Jerusalem after Friday prayers.

I hope she's cool with the death toll to follow all because our current POTUS is a full bred idiot.
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Your comrnent is despicable.
It appears you are waiting with bated breath for deaths from their violent outbursts so you can blame the President. Where is your outrage at the violence?
Israelis, their Prime Minister and Jews world-wide fully support the decision that the U.S re-acknowledged what has have been all along, and support the move of our Embassy there.

Seriously, why don't you condemn those crazy and violent muslims you sympathize with who want to murder innocent people?

On second thoughts, When have you ever? The daily violence in the name of 'Allah' directed at Christians, Jews and Agnostics that has continued for decades hasn't warranted a peep from you. How sad.
 
Since1980 said:
Seriously. That gets exhausting after a while. Ain't nobody about to read all that shit.
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Its worse than spamware and you already know what's being said "but, but, Obama."
Lol.
andreboba said:
I hope Bliss is paying attention to the violent protests that have already started in Jerusalem after Friday prayers.

I hope she's cool with the death toll to follow all because our current POTUS is a full bred idiot.
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It's Obamas fault.
Some kind of way he did the same thing when he was president.......lol
 
Bliss said:
Your comrnent is despicable.
It appears you are waiting with bated breath for deaths from their violent outbursts so you can blame the President. Where is your outrage at the violence?
Israelis, their Prime Minister and Jews world-wide fully support the decision that the U.S re-acknowledged what has have been all along, and support the move of our Embassy there.

Seriously, why don't you condemn those crazy and violent muslims you sympathize with who want to murder innocent people?

On second thoughts, When have you ever? The daily violence in the name of 'Allah' directed at Christians, Jews and Agnostics that has continued for decades hasn't warranted a peep from you. How sad.
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Did you just say that I condone acts of terrorism committed by Muslims??lol
Still reaching.

As for our dummy POTUS, diplomacy is about pragmatism and dealing with real world realities and conflicts among various groups.
Intentionally and unnecessarily inserting himself and the United States into the Jerusalem question so publicly has again sparked tensions in the ME.

Palestinian and Islamic militants aren't 'rational' about the issue of Jerusalem, so why would Trump decide to throw gasoline on the entire region all for the sake of being 'right''???

I was told a long time ago you can be right on an issue, but you can be DEAD right too.
Tell me what Trump accomplished other than fracturing the delicate peace between the Israelis and the Palestinians??
ANd there's no one in Trump's administration with the diplomatic experience or resources to calm this situation.

Trump says he wants to fight terrorism, but instead what he's done is give groups like Al Qaeda and ISIS another reason to attack the West.
I truly believe Trump had no clue how explosive a statement it was to announce that he planned to move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem.

No country in the world with consulates in Israel has embassies in Jerusalem, because of what it would symbolize to Palestinians and the rest of the region.

Trump is an idiot when it comes to foreign affairs.
Now we all get to witness that his idiocy has deadly real world consequences.
 
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Wonderful Update:

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The black unemployment rate fell to 6.8 per cent in December, the lowest level since federal data began to be collected in 1972, prompting Trump's jubilant tweet on Saturday morning.

'The African American unemployment rate fell to 6.8%, the lowest rate in 45 years. I am so happy about this News!' Trump wrote.

'And, in the Washington Post (of all places), headline states, 'Trumps first year jobs numbers were very, very good',' he continued, referencing a news analysis piece that compared Trump's first year of job numbers favorably to those of his predecessors.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...s-were-very-very-good/?utm_term=.010b3575649d

Excerpt:
"With those numbers in hand, we can now compare Trump’s first year in office to his predecessors’. And in that comparison, Trump comes out looking pretty good."

Overall, the US unemployment rate fell to 4.1 per cent in December, the lowest level since December of 2000.

For whites, the unemployment rate held steady at 3.7 per cent in December, and for Hispanics it rose slightly to 4.9 per cent.

Only 8 per cent of black voters supported Trump in the 2016 presidential election, with the demographic swinging heavily toward Democrat Hillary Clinton by an 80-point margin.

During the campaign, Trump's much-commented upon pitch to black voters was 'What the hell do you have to loose?', blaming the Democratic Party for taking their votes for granted with little in return.

The December jobs data marked the first time that black unemployment rates had fallen under 7 per cent, and a two-point decline from when Trump took office last January, when the rate was 8.9 per cent

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More:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5242079/Trump-congratulates-low-black-unemployment-rate.html
 
Bliss said:
Wonderful Update:

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Excerpt:
The black unemployment rate fell to 6.8 per cent in December, the lowest level since federal data began to be collected in 1972, prompting Trump's jubilant tweet on Saturday morning.

'The African American unemployment rate fell to 6.8%, the lowest rate in 45 years. I am so happy about this News!' Trump wrote.

'And, in the Washington Post (of all places), headline states, 'Trumps first year jobs numbers were very, very good',' he continued, referencing a news analysis piece that compared Trump's first year of job numbers favorably to those of his predecessors.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...s-were-very-very-good/?utm_term=.010b3575649d

Excerpt:
"With those numbers in hand, we can now compare Trump’s first year in office to his predecessors’. And in that comparison, Trump comes out looking pretty good."

Overall, the US unemployment rate fell to 4.1 per cent in December, the lowest level since December of 2000.

For whites, the unemployment rate held steady at 3.7 per cent in December, and for Hispanics it rose slightly to 4.9 per cent.

Only 8 per cent of black voters supported Trump in the 2016 presidential election, with the demographic swinging heavily toward Democrat Hillary Clinton by an 80-point margin.

During the campaign, Trump's much-commented upon pitch to black voters was 'What the hell do you have to loose?', blaming the Democratic Party for taking their votes for granted with little in return.

The December jobs data marked the first time that black unemployment rates had fallen under 7 per cent, and a two-point decline from when Trump took office last January, when the rate was 8.9 per cent

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More:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5242079/Trump-congratulates-low-black-unemployment-rate.html
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So now you believe the department of labor (bureau of labor statistics) numbers? The same groups that Trump lambasted as "fake" and "totally untrue" during his campaign whenever someone praised president Obama for cutting the unemployment rate in half during his term?
 
Loki said:
So now you believe the department of labor (bureau of labor statistics) numbers? The same groups that Trump lambasted as "fake" and "totally untrue" during his campaign whenever someone praised president Obama for cutting the unemployment rate in half during his term?
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Logic and numbers don't exist
 
Loki said:
So now you believe the department of labor (bureau of labor statistics) numbers? The same groups that Trump lambasted as "fake" and "totally untrue" during his campaign whenever someone praised president Obama for cutting the unemployment rate in half during his term?
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Well, of course it was fake back then. They said mean things about him. All the good stuff is totally true though.
 
Loki said:
So now you believe the department of labor (bureau of labor statistics) numbers? The same groups that Trump lambasted as "fake" and "totally untrue" during his campaign whenever someone praised president Obama for cutting the unemployment rate in half during his term?
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I knew this would upset you.
The fact thst Black Unemployment is the lowest in 45 years.
You should instead...be happy.
Cheers.
 
Let me know when salaries and wages for the poor and middle class actually increase.
Having to work 2-3 jobs because one doesn't pay a living wage isn't the best sign of a strong economy.

Trumptard just added $1.5 trillion dollars to the national debt so he could give the one-percent a permanent tax break they didn't need.
So far Trump is coasting off the economy Obama left him. Just like George Dubya did when Clinton left office.
 
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