well lets ask this why BM love WW

Kunoichi said:
Thanks for the welcome.

To be fair too, no one mentioned all. I stated certain Black Women's perspectives, and 'a lot of'.

It's the certain BW I have encountered on blogs. At first, I thought it was an anomaly, but the mentality appears to have grown and has become almost sheeple like. The consensus appears to be; BM+WW=terrible, BW + WM = approved.

My observations thus far find that the most segregated friendships seem to be American BW/WW. I think when deeply connected IR friendships occur, its usually due to work, or school. I don't think they are deliberately sought out, purely because culture dictates it. I have had 2 Black female friends, and looking back, one I definitely assimilated into her world, rather than the other way around. My experiences overall were positive. I still think about them to this day, wondering how their lives are.
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Again to be fair you did say you use to stick up for sistas which would imply all of them but stopped when you realized they weren't sticking up for you again it can be implied you were making a generalization.

So why did you stop being friends with those women?
 
botoan said:
Thank you for your post! I did the same thing for a while, looking on black internet blogs that attacked WW and any BM that was in public with them. It was depressing and frustrating I had to get away from it. I am a happy man by nature and I had so many good experiences with WW throughout my life that it bothered me with all the bigotry. I have already seen that people like them will come on this site as well and pretend to be black men but, I think I will stay here because there are beautiful, intelligent WW to share and communicate with. I love interacting with friendly WW! Black Men like me love women like you and Inner Beauty.
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That's very sweet of you to say. Thank you and welcome to this site. You've already proven that you'll be a good asset to this site.


Kunoichi said:
Thanks for the welcome.

To be fair too, no one mentioned all. I stated certain Black Women's perspectives, and 'a lot of'.

It's the certain BW I have encountered on blogs. At first, I thought it was an anomaly, but the mentality appears to have grown and has become almost sheeple like. The consensus appears to be; BM+WW=terrible, BW + WM = approved.

My observations thus far find that the most segregated friendships seem to be American BW/WW. I think when deeply connected IR friendships occur, its usually due to work, or school. I don't think they are deliberately sought out, purely because culture dictates it. I have had 2 Black female friends, and looking back, one I definitely assimilated into her world, rather than the other way around. My experiences overall were positive. I still think about them to this day, wondering how their lives are.
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I frequent all the popular Black blogs as well so I read what you read. It's definitely sad to see the venom that's being spewed, but on the flip-side, you have to laugh at the negativity and ignorance. I understand the hurt, but it's not helping the cause. It's unfortunate that the Sistas who can give a rats ass, are secure with themselves and don't hate on others, have to go down with the hating ones. Cause the hating ones are the vocal ones.

I can't sit up here and hate on BW cause I date BM. I know there are some that hate me automatically, but I've always had a lot of BW friends, so it's been more personal for me. My friends have been there for me, especially when I had man problems. We're there for one another. They support me and want to see me happy. I can't look at a whole race of women and go, you're my enemy. I take each person on a case by case basis and see what happens. I'm not naive to the hatred, but not every Sista has an agenda filled with hate.
 
Inner Beauty said:
That's very sweet of you to say. Thank you and welcome to this site. You've already proven that you'll be a good asset to this site.




I frequent all the popular Black blogs as well so I read what you read. It's definitely sad to see the venom that's being spewed, but on the flip-side, you have to laugh at the negativity and ignorance. I understand the hurt, but it's not helping the cause. It's unfortunate that the Sistas who can give a rats ass, are secure with themselves and don't hate on others, have to go down with the hating ones. Cause the hating ones are the vocal ones.

I can't sit up here and hate on BW cause I date BM. I know there are some that hate me automatically, but I've always had a lot of BW friends, so it's been more personal for me. My friends have been there for me, especially when I had man problems. We're there for one another. They support me and want to see me happy. I can't look at a whole race of women and go, you're my enemy. I take each person on a case by case basis and see what happens. I'm not naive to the hatred, but not every Sista has an agenda filled with hate.
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well stated. there is one thing I never understood. I put up a vid with a bw/wm IR and they were talking about their relationship and people reacted with venom.

I was like dude they maybe bwwm but they are in the same boat as we are. the angels of problems maybe different but they are relatively the same...so why the anger ?
 
goodlove said:
well stated. there is one thing I never understood. I put up a vid with a bw/wm IR and they were talking about their relationship and people reacted with venom.

I was like dude they maybe bwwm but they are in the same boat as we are. the angels of problems maybe different but they are relatively the same...so why the anger ?
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Thank you...

I'm all for all IR and when I come across the counterparts of our union, I smile, but I also know that - like Kunoichi said, their union is more accepted than ours.
 
Inner Beauty said:
Thank you...

I'm all for all IR and when I come across the counterparts of our union, I smile, but I also know that - like Kunoichi said, their union is more accepted than ours.
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its funny you stated that....Im hollering at this BW and she is a professor in psychology dept at a local college.

she was telling me that bw arent as venomous toward bwwm relationships because generally wm dont see bw pretty. i was replied they must have missed the memo when the women slaves were raped , david bowie marrying his black woman and rebert deniro being color struck by black women along with thicke and jon b.

but the thing she was trying to get over that bw feel they are no lovely looking and that ww are looked at the paradigm of beauty
 
goodlove said:
...I was like dude they maybe bwwm but they are in the same boat as we are.
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BW & WW are pretty much in the same boat - that's why Oprah Winfrey's audiences are 90% WW. But BM & WM are not. Mathematically speaking, BWWM is not equal to WWBM. Why don't you realize this?
 
goodlove said:
its funny you stated that....Im hollering at this BW and she is a professor in psychology dept at a local college.

she was telling me that bw arent as venomous toward bwwm relationships because generally wm dont see bw pretty. i was replied they must have missed the memo when the women slaves were raped , david bowie marrying his black woman and rebert deniro being color struck by black women along with thicke and jon b.

but the thing she was trying to get over that bw feel they are no lovely looking and that ww are looked at the paradigm of beauty
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The media definitely isn't fair to BW, but notice how you said BW aren't as venomous towards BW/WM. Of course they're not going to hate on their fellow sisters. It's a whole different ballgame, cause BM aren't as vocal about their disapproval about BW being with WM as it's the other way around. Some BM do care, but a lot don't. I think it's also cause women are more emotional and men aren't.
 
Anten7 said:
BW & WW are pretty much in the same boat - that's why Oprah Winfrey's audiences are 90% WW. But BM & WM are not. Mathematically speaking, BWWM is not equal to WWBM. Why don't you realize this?
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what you dont get ....is that they face the same racism as we would BUT because of the man-woman relationship culture it is more frowned upon for bmww. get it
 
Inner Beauty said:
The media definitely isn't fair to BW, but notice how you said BW aren't as venomous towards BW/WM. Of course they're not going to hate on their fellow sisters. It's a whole different ballgame, cause BM aren't as vocal about their disapproval about BW being with WM as it's the other way around. Some BM do care, but a lot don't. I think it's also cause women are more emotional and men aren't.
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no doubt also the women have the most access to the media. look at black in america and tavis smiley's state of the union....they dog out BM with no let up..because BW spend the money.
 
botoan said:
I know a black woman that has two sons by a white guy and she confidently tells everyone (not that anyone inquires of this info) that she is raising them to love and respect black women so that they would marry black women. When I first heard her I about pissed in my pants trying not to laugh out loud. Her hatred for black men is so transparent her sons are more likely to be gay or serial killers but, they will not like or love black women. I would bother educating her, but since she thinks all black men are good for nothing (like many black women proclaim) then she certainly would not have the humility to listen to me.
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If she had 2 bi racial daughters you best believe she wouldn't tell them to love BM.

You best believe that.
 
goodlove said:
no doubt also the women have the most access to the media. look at black in america and tavis smiley's state of the union....they dog out BM with no let up..because BW spend the money.
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Well, I don't think they have more media access, I just think they're more vocal about things.
 
andrae09 said:
Again to be fair you did say you use to stick up for sistas which would imply all of them but stopped when you realized they weren't sticking up for you again it can be implied you were making a generalization.

So why did you stop being friends with those women?
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Sorry if that was how you read it. I meant the ones who didn't have WW's backs in blogs, and I mentioned that. Naturally, if a sista - any sista - is cool with me, I'll do anything for her as I would my white sistas.

To be specific, there were certain women whom I noticed continuously spoke ill of WW in general, so when I observed the same women argue with a Black man, even though in the past I would have been inclined to jump in and defend her/them (I tend towards solidarity with women and have all my life) I stopped doing so. It wasn't about siding with the brotha either, since I was usually repulsed at the insults hurled to each other. For me, it was an issue of loyalty to the sexes. (I think the battles/misunderstandings of the sexes and roles we are expected to play bodes a deeper divide than race does, but I digress).
The catylist was if a black man typed to me nicely online, they would berate him as 'kissing my ass" but "talked shit to them", failing to acknowledge their own contribution to any bad blood between them.

As for my friends, the first I had in grade and High school and our lives drifted apart and I moved to the States. I have tried to find her on FB to no avail.

The other was the fiancee of my ex-husband's co worker..and to be honest, he didn't want her hanging with me after an incident. if you care to read on what happened do so, otherwise, this is the end of my reply to you ;)

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The incident was we were denied entry to a private law enforcement club I frequented because the doorman didn't want "her kind there". ( I had 2 black g/f with me). I was so outraged, I wanted her to sue them and I contacted the Black police Civic League on her behalf. Apparently however, I did not understand the "can of worms" (her fiance used those words) I would open if she took on the Police force. In essence, he was afraid. I got upset that she was allowing him to control her, and slowly we drifted apart. In retrospect, I understand completely now his fear of their power and vengeful abilities to make their life hell....over something that may not be as a big deal anymore to them as it was to me at that time (I was such a greenhorn to the country). So there, you have it.
 
Anten7 said:
BW & WW are pretty much in the same boat - that's why Oprah Winfrey's audiences are 90% WW. But BM & WM are not. Mathematically speaking, BWWM is not equal to WWBM. Why don't you realize this?
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BW and WW are NOT in the same boat.

WW belong to a MALE dominant PATRIARCHY.

BW belong to a FEMALE dominant MATRIARCHY.

If anybody is in the "same boat" it's BM and WW.
 
goodlove said:
its funny you stated that....Im hollering at this BW and she is a professor in psychology dept at a local college.

she was telling me that bw arent as venomous toward bwwm relationships because generally wm dont see bw pretty. i was replied they must have missed the memo when the women slaves were raped , david bowie marrying his black woman and rebert deniro being color struck by black women along with thicke and jon b.

but the thing she was trying to get over that bw feel they are no lovely looking and that ww are looked at the paradigm of beauty
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WM are looked at as the paradigm of beauty..but you don't hear BM crying about it.
 
Kunoichi said:
Sorry if that was how you read it. I meant the ones who didn't have WW's backs in blogs, and I mentioned that. Naturally, if a sista - any sista - is cool with me, I'll do anything for her as I would my white sistas.

To be specific, there were certain women whom I noticed continuously spoke ill of WW in general, so when I observed the same women argue with a Black man, even though in the past I would have been inclined to jump in and defend her/them (I tend towards solidarity with women and have all my life) I stopped doing so. It wasn't about siding with the brotha either, since I was usually repulsed at the insults hurled to each other. For me, it was an issue of loyalty to the sexes. (I think the battles/misunderstandings of the sexes and roles we are expected to play bodes a deeper divide than race does, but I digress).
The catylist was if a black man typed to me nicely online, they would berate him as 'kissing my ass" but "talked shit to them", failing to acknowledge their own contribution to any bad blood between them.

As for my friends, the first I had in grade and primary school and our lives drifted apart and I moved to the States. I have tried to find her on FB to no avail.

The other was the fiance of my ex-husband's co worker..and to be honest, he didn't want her hanging with me after an incident. if you care to read on what happened do so, otherwise, this is the end of my reply to you ;)

****************************

The incident was we were denied entry to a private law enforcement club I frequented because the doorman didn't want "her kind there". ( I had 2 black g/f with me). I was so outraged, I wanted her to sue them and I contacted the Black police Civic League on her behalf. Apparently however, I did not understand the "can of worms" (her fiance used those words) I would open if she took on the Police force. In essence, he was afraid. I got upset that she was allowing him to control her, and slowly we drifted apart. In retrospect, I understand completely now his fear of their power and vengeful abilities to make their life hell....over something that may not be as a big deal anymore to them as it was to me at that time (I was such a greenhorn to the country). So there, you have it.
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oprah had a show on yesterday where about 20 some odd years ago a gay guy had aids jumped in a pool and the town closed the pool and ect...
so she went to the town (VA) and she had the dude (gay guy) there. the whole town just went into his ass. up to date the same people who berated him was there but he had died years earlier. they all stated that they were christians and what not and they felt bad for saying the things they stated.

one thing was often stated....I got caught up with the rest of the mob and went along with the attack...now Im sorry.....

HHHMMMMM very common even online.
 
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