white women in R&B ......No success .

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I was thinking the other day , listening to taylor dayne on youtube .....alot of comments on there about how people thought she was black (before seeing her video) ......just thinking there's not alot of white women doing r&b music.
(taylor dayne is not r&b,close duh ) pink first came out as r&b and later quickly switched to pop rock . are white women kinda discriminated in R&b ? they don't get much support . can anyone name some successful white female r&b singers ?
where's teena marie back in the day.
 
Dusty Springfield?

Also I think Pink was pushed into early r&b. I don't think she ever wanted to be there herself, so she got away when she got the chance.
 
LMAO, we talked about this in another thread. We live in the "Woke" era. Black females* ain't about to let no damn white female R&B singer eat.

They already don't want no more lightskin female singers. Go to the hater site I like to whine about. They HATE on every damn young up & coming lightskin/mixed female singer such as Ella Mai, Queen Naija, Jorja Smith, & etc. They sure ain't about allow any white female singer through.
 
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Now that we got that out the way, let's the about the American exceptions (U.K. singers like Adele & Amy Winehouse don't count to me).


Mainstream-wise the closest you're gonna get is Ariana Grande. She's always been compared to Mariah Carey. With the exception of her 1st album*, all of Ariana Grande's albums are labeled as "Pop/R&B" on Wikipedia. Half of her new album "Sweetener" that just came out a week & half ago is produced by Pharrell Williams:

Ariana Grande’s fourth studio album 'Sweetener' is here, and one song which seems to have everyone talking is the title track. It’s produced by Pharrell Williams and features Ariana singing about overcoming hardships as well as her fiancé, comedian Pete Davidson.

Read more on Genius: https://genius.com/a/ariana-grande-gi...

Read all the lyrics to "sweetener" on Genius: https://genius.com/Ariana-grande-swee...




* - Her 1st album from 2013 "Yours Truly" was executive-produced by Babyface & is straight-up just labeled "R&B" on Wikipedia.




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I just pulled this info up her Wikipedia page:
Early life and career
By age 13, she became serious about pursuing a music career, though she still concentrated on theater.[22] When she first arrived in Los Angeles to meet with her managers, she expressed a desire to record an R&B album: "I was like, 'I want to make an R&B album,' They were like 'Um, that's a helluva goal! Who is going to buy a 14-year-old's R&B album?!'"

Artistry
Grande's music is generally described as pop and R&B with elements of EDM and hip hop.[55][191][192] Grande said she grew up mainly listening to urban pop and 90s music.[191]Grande's debut album, Yours Truly was complimented for recreating the R&B "vibe and feel of the 90s" with the help of songwriter and producer Babyface.[193] The follow-up, My Everything, has been described as an evolution from her first album with a new sound exploring EDM and electropop genres.[99] The Los Angeles Times review of her third album, Dangerous Woman, commented that it is "impressive how fully she inhabits the emotional environment of each song here, even when one directly contradicts another. ... She's ... deft [at] adapting to different styles".[194]

Grande has cited Whitney Houston and Mariah Carey as her major vocal influences, saying: "I love Mariah Carey. She is literally my favorite human being on the planet. And of course Whitney [Houston] as well. As far as vocal influences go, Whitney and Mariah pretty much cover it."[195][196]She describes Gloria Estefan as the person who inspired her to pursue a career in the music industry, after Estefan complimented a performance she saw Grande give on a cruise ship when she was eight years old.[197] She has also cited Fergie,[195] Destiny's Child, Beyoncé,[198] India.Arie and Brandy as influences or inspirations.[199] She has praised Imogen Heap's "intricate" song structure and cited Judy Garland as being a childhood influence, admiring Garland's ability to tell "a story when she sings"




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Here's a 1.5-minute clip Rap Genius put out a couple years ago:

Check out all the lyrics and meaning to Ariana's 'Dangerous Woman.':
http://genius.com/Ariana-grande-dange...
 
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Also, They're several young up & upcoming white Latina female R&B singer who have followings like Jesse Reyez (She just performed at the MTV VMAs last week), Alina Baraz, Sabrina Claudio, & etc.
 
Also, They're several young up & upcoming white Latina female R&B singer who have followings like Jesse Reyez (She just performed at the MTV VMAs last week), Alina Baraz, Sabrina Claudio, & etc.

the white latinas don't count ..... "they" let them slide on through..... grande , lovato, cabello from 5th harmony ,
iggy azalea is the only white woman in hip hop , but she's a rapper . it's also about white support as well .....i don't think whites support white r&b singers ....no fan base.
i looked up meghan trainor and she is put in the dance pop genre.....but sounds like she is influenced by r&b thou.
 
Also, They're several young up & upcoming white Latina female R&B singer who have followings like Jesse Reyez (She just performed at the MTV VMAs last week), Alina Baraz, Sabrina Claudio, & etc.
the white latinas don't count ..... "they" let them slide on through..... grande , lovato, cabello from 5th harmony ,
iggy azalea is the only white woman in hip hop , but she's a rapper . it's also about white support as well .....i don't think whites support white r&b singers ....no fan base.
i looked up meghan trainor and she is put in the dance pop genre.....but sounds like she is influenced by r&b thou.
Uhhhhh......Ariana Grande isn't Latina. She's a White Italian-American.
 
I was thinking the other day , listening to taylor dayne on youtube .....alot of comments on there about how people thought she was black (before seeing her video) ......just thinking there's not alot of white women doing r&b music.
(taylor dayne is not r&b,close duh ) pink first came out as r&b and later quickly switched to pop rock . are white women kinda discriminated in R&b ? they don't get much support . can anyone name some successful white female r&b singers ?
where's teena marie back in the day.
R&B, in general, doesn't get much play or respect. It's mostly pop and hip pop (yes, I said hip pop). So, there is very little room for many singers. You have beyonce and then rihanna does pop, and now ariana does what she does. It isn't the late 90s or early 2000s. R&B is dead to the mainstream and it's as simple as that.
 
the white latinas don't count ..... "they" let them slide on through..... grande , lovato, cabello from 5th harmony ,
iggy azalea is the only white woman in hip hop , but she's a rapper . it's also about white support as well .....i don't think whites support white r&b singers ....no fan base.
i looked up meghan trainor and she is put in the dance pop genre.....but sounds like she is influenced by r&b thou.

That Cabello chick and another white Latina have a history of saying greasy shit about black people. I never listened to them before but I can understand being skeptical about these white rnb singers when they don't even like black folks. And I dont listen to new rnb but from what I've heard from many others, real rnb is dead....or at least not in the mainstream like that. The rnb I do hear in that trap/mumble rap blend.

Plus, you have those Post Malone types that do black music but say their music is some other shit.
 
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