who is overrated

[The Dark King]

Good points for the most part.

@ the bolded Pac went after everyone but Wu-Tang. Pac's argument was that he spawned those guys and to be fair he couldn't say that about Wu because Wu really did have a totally unique style.

And Wu was about that life. Certain dudes no matter how much they make will always be grimy ie Old DB

 

[Stizzy]

No love for Redman? Perhaps you guys don't care much for metaphors? Rasskass was the only one colder with the metaphors than redman, but overall Redman is no joke!

Much love for Red and Kass!!!

 

[Beasty]

Much love for Red and Kass!!!

 

[samson1701]

I was gonna put Big Pun and Scarface up there too just couldn't justify them over the others I picked.

Well to be real at the time I don't think it was Pac as much as it was Suge. Dude had a long history of disappearing people. He was a captain in one of the biggest gangs at the time and while dudes were safe on the east coast they didn't want that beef when going to the West for shows.
A lot of those guys on the East were street hustlers but they weren't straight up killers which is why a lot of those guys had like one guy who was known for that. Good example Bang Em Smurf for G-Unit.
I will say this though West Coast dudes only went after dudes they knew they could get away with doing that shit.
They went after Big and Puff because neither were true gully street dudes and at the time bad boy was more about recruiting radio hit talent they didn't have thugs on in the roster until the Lox
I notice no one ever went after Wu Tang Clan because their rep for hanging with straight murderers was well known they weren't soft. Reminds me a lot of G-Unit and Terror Squad. Say what you will but the streets out here know whose clique will body someone and whose doing it just for radio.

This. West Coast were serious with it.

 

[The Dark King]

This. West Coast were serious with it.

You ain't lying. New York Philly Jersey has a lot of disorganized street dudes but they weren't a network like the crips or bloods which every West Coast street dude was a part of so I could have beef in Bedstuy and just avoid there and I'm good. Just hang out in the South Bronx or Queens or Harlem till shit died down.
I'm L.A. if you have beef with someone from the Bloods you're done unless you're down with the crips. Once the word is out it's open season on you until the shit is resolved. We got crews out here but they really for gangs out there.

 

[samson1701]

You ain't lying. New York Philly Jersey has a lot of disorganized street dudes but they weren't a network like the crips or bloods which every West Coast street dude was a part of so I could have beef in Bedstuy and just avoid there and I'm good. Just hang out in the South Bronx or Queens or Harlem till shit died down.
I'm L.A. if you have beef with someone from the Bloods you're done unless you're down with the crips. Once the word is out it's open season on you until the shit is resolved. We got crews out here but they really for gangs out there.

Yeah, I learned that all about it when I moved out here. They are dead serious about that gang shit. Its life for them.

My favorite color to wear is loud red for my shirts. I don't wear them here. Only if I'm traveling to other states or something. My old cleaning girl was damn near in tears talking me out of wearing a red shirt when I first got here. I didn't realize it was that serious. But, I guess it is.

But, on a lighter note, nobody got love for Rakim in their top 5? Or is he too old school?

 

[GFunk]

Yeah, I learned that all about it when I moved out here. They are dead serious about that gang shit. Its life for them.

My favorite color to wear is loud red for my shirts. I don't wear them here. Only if I'm traveling to other states or something. My old cleaning girl was damn near in tears talking me out of wearing a red shirt when I first got here. I didn't realize it was that serious. But, I guess it is.

But, on a lighter note, nobody got love for Rakim in their top 5? Or is he too old school?

1991 ain't too old school. Don't see why 1986 would be too old school

 

[The Dark King]

Yeah, I learned that all about it when I moved out here. They are dead serious about that gang shit. Its life for them.

My favorite color to wear is loud red for my shirts. I don't wear them here. Only if I'm traveling to other states or something. My old cleaning girl was damn near in tears talking me out of wearing a red shirt when I first got here. I didn't realize it was that serious. But, I guess it is.

But, on a lighter note, nobody got love for Rakim in their top 5? Or is he too old school?

Nah he was dope and definitely one of the pioneers but doesn't hold up for me. I judge my top 5 by how it stacks up to all other music. Can today's artists hold a candle to these dudes. That pseudo beef between Em and Drake was a clear example for me. Back when dudes like 50 Jay Em or even Pac were on the throne they would NEVER back down from a lyrical challenge. Win lose or draw men were men back then and weren't afraid to prove it. So one it's stepping up to the challenge and two being able to meet the challenge. Nothing in Rakim's catalogue made me feel like he could take out Jay Nas Em Big or Jada

 

[samson1701]

Nah he was dope and definitely one of the pioneers but doesn't hold up for me. I judge my top 5 by how it stacks up to all other music. Can today's artists hold a candle to these dudes. That pseudo beef between Em and Drake was a clear example for me. Back when dudes like 50 Jay Em or even Pac were on the throne they would NEVER back down from a lyrical challenge. Win lose or draw men were men back then and weren't afraid to prove it. So one it's stepping up to the challenge and two being able to meet the challenge. Nothing in Rakim's catalogue made me feel like he could take out Jay Nas Em Big or Jada

I see where you're coming from. But, then you have to ask yourself, was anyone coming for Rakim back then? If not why?

He was definitely a heavyweight. If no one stepped to him, was it because they where scared or just didn't view him as worth going after?

 

[Beasty]

I see where you're coming from. But, then you have to ask yourself, was anyone coming for Rakim back then? If not why?

He was definitely a heavyweight. If no one stepped to him, was it because they where scared or just didn't view him as worth going after?

There wasn't any competition for him back then except for Kane. Both MCs were comfortable where they were so there wasn't really a need for a battle. Cool J could have gave him some competition, but I think he was on a hiatus at the time.

 

[Beasty]

Nah he was dope and definitely one of the pioneers but doesn't hold up for me. I judge my top 5 by how it stacks up to all other music. Can today's artists hold a candle to these dudes. That pseudo beef between Em and Drake was a clear example for me. Back when dudes like 50 Jay Em or even Pac were on the throne they would NEVER back down from a lyrical challenge. Win lose or draw men were men back then and weren't afraid to prove it. So one it's stepping up to the challenge and two being able to meet the challenge. Nothing in Rakim's catalogue made me feel like he could take out Jay Nas Em Big or Jada

I do this too but I'm not sure if it is fair. Cool J was a damn good artist but he never would have said this after 1990 "Forget oreos eat Cool J cookies I'm bad"

 

[goodlove8]

Nah he was dope and definitely one of the pioneers but doesn't hold up for me. I judge my top 5 by how it stacks up to all other music. Can today's artists hold a candle to these dudes. That pseudo beef between Em and Drake was a clear example for me. Back when dudes like 50 Jay Em or even Pac were on the throne they would NEVER back down from a lyrical challenge. Win lose or draw men were men back then and weren't afraid to prove it. So one it's stepping up to the challenge and two being able to meet the challenge. Nothing in Rakim's catalogue made me feel like he could take out Jay Nas Em Big or Jada

Oh rakim and Eric B is the shit. They are surely ground breaking in the game. Em has given them muuucccchhh respect to them .

I see where you're coming from. But, then you have to ask yourself, was anyone coming for Rakim back then? If not why?

He was definitely a heavyweight. If no one stepped to him, was it because they where scared or just didn't view him as worth going after?

See abovee Eric B and Rakim was just some bad ass mofo. The word play was off the chain. As far as recall everyone or a lot was copying his style. Kane was a bad ass so much respect.

There wasn't any competition for him back then except for Kane. Both MCs were comfortable where they were so there wasn't really a need for a battle. Cool J could have gave him some competition, but I think he was on a hiatus at the time.

No one showed love for public enemy? PE took it to the hoop and dunk it on mofo. That socially conscious rap was strong back in the day. The music is still relevant.


Today's rappers as a whole could not touch the rappers of the 80's and 90's


Hell y'all still can't fuck with grandmaster flash and the furious 5.

 

[goodlove8]

I do this too but I'm not sure if it is fair. Cool J was a damn good artist but he never would have said this after 1990 "Forget oreos eat Cool J cookies I'm bad"

Or "I'll crush you like a jelly bean....."


Cool j made some real fun joints. To me my favorites are "rock the bells'" and "momma said knock you out"

 

[samson1701]

There wasn't any competition for him back then except for Kane. Both MCs were comfortable where they were so there wasn't really a need for a battle. Cool J could have gave him some competition, but I think he was on a hiatus at the time.

Cool J was too busy with Kool Moe Dee. ...lol

 

[GFunk]

Cool J was too busy with Kool Moe Dee. ...lol

Ha! Yup

 

[The Dark King]

I see where you're coming from. But, then you have to ask yourself, was anyone coming for Rakim back then? If not why?

He was definitely a heavyweight. If no one stepped to him, was it because they where scared or just didn't view him as worth going after?

He wore the crown and the only ones who could come after him were dudes like Krs1 and Big Daddy Kane maybe Eric B.
The talent pool was shallow back then. Their lyrical game was ok but nothing to write home about. I also have to note kids who weren't even born when they were hot love Big love Pac Love Jay love Em love Nas. Me and my friends knew who dudes like Rakim and Eric B were but we wouldn't consume their music like that. It was good but none of them were dropping a BluePrint or an Illmatic or All Eyes on Me or The Marshall Mathers LP. They weren't dropping zone out albums like Ready to Die or Life After Death.

 

[The Dark King]

I do this too but I'm not sure if it is fair. Cool J was a damn good artist but he never would have said this after 1990 "Forget oreos eat Cool J cookies I'm bad"

Of course it's fair that's how we can say MJ is the greatest ever even damn near 20 years after retirement.

If you're that dope you stand the test of time. Who is a better heavy weight than Mike Tyson a better performer than Michael Jackson better at hockey than Wayne Gretzki. Sl

 

[Beasty]

He wore the crown and the only ones who could come after him were dudes like Krs1 and Big Daddy Kane maybe Eric B.
The talent pool was shallow back then. Their lyrical game was ok but nothing to write home about. I also have to note kids who weren't even born when they were hot love Big love Pac Love Jay love Em love Nas. Me and my friends knew who dudes like Rakim and Eric B were but we wouldn't consume their music like that. It was good but none of them were dropping a BluePrint or an Illmatic or All Eyes on Me or The Marshall Mathers LP. They weren't dropping zone out albums like Ready to Die or Life After Death.

All eyes on me =Fire!!

Of course it's fair that's how we can say MJ is the greatest ever even damn near 20 years after retirement.

If you're that dope you stand the test of time. Who is a better heavy weight than Mike Tyson a better performer than Michael Jackson better at hockey than Wayne Gretzki. Sl

I can dig it.

 

[samson1701]

He wore the crown and the only ones who could come after him were dudes like Krs1 and Big Daddy Kane maybe Eric B.
The talent pool was shallow back then. Their lyrical game was ok but nothing to write home about. I also have to note kids who weren't even born when they were hot love Big love Pac Love Jay love Em love Nas. Me and my friends knew who dudes like Rakim and Eric B were but we wouldn't consume their music like that. It was good but none of them were dropping a BluePrint or an Illmatic or All Eyes on Me or The Marshall Mathers LP. They weren't dropping zone out albums like Ready to Die or Life After Death.

Facts.

Another over rated celeb, to me, is Bella Hadid. She aiight. She always looks so got damm bored.

 

[goodlove8]

Facts.

Another over rated celeb, to me, is Bella Hadid. She aiight. She always looks so got damm bored.

Lol

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