"Why I must consider non-monogamy"

I knew someone would say that and lo and behold, it's none other than ANDRAE :p

WTF does how cats and dogs mate have to do with human relationships?

I guess it gives us examples of the natural order of living things. The only difference is that those animals are honest to the core they don't ignore their nature. Humans have developed a strong self denial system. We fear honesty in almost all facets of our lives.
 
At the risk of sounding like the sides of the gay marriage debate, marriage was always traditionally more about property transfer, child-rearing and the like, more than it was every about emotional/sentimental love/eros (especially given the historical inequity between male and female social standing.

i respect your opinion, and will admitt that i have never been married myself, but i feel marriage is sharing one's self with another completely.
intimacy goes along with the other points you made about marriage. while i do agree with the historical inequity among the sexes, i will add that more and more women are becoming independent and look for more than the traditional man as a provider. they can provide for themselves. they look now for companionship and love.
and while we live in a highily sexed world....you can get sex anywhere so again why make a commitment if you are not gonna be committed.
 
No I would not consider an open marriage. It's not for me. But I don't live blindly either. Men and women both cheat but normally for different reasons. Men mostly cheat for physical reasons while women mostly cheat for emotional ones. Not to say the opposites don't occur. IMO if you KNOW you don't want to cheat you have to be practical about it. And that means you need not put your self in a position that you could fall prey. Especially if your a woman you need to keep a distance IMO from friendships with men you would be interested in if not for your marriage especially including x's. Not that you can be friends but limitations are best to keep an emotional attachment from occurring. With men IMO need to never be alone with another female nor have inappropriate conversations with a female and honestly physical attraction has nothing to do with it.

Bullshit horsecrap cowdung :cool:
 
No matter how we try to spin it, it will always be the adage of a man wants to be her first, and a woman wants to be his last.

And unfortunately, no man in general wants to give up potential pussy by disclosing to his mate what he's about to do, incase she shuts it down.

Plus relationships can be temporary, AIDS isn't. I dont want a slut's nasty STD brought back to my home and in me.

All in all, it's disenheartening to not have a solution for infidelity at this juncture of relationships...and the explosion of the internet has been like getting on the super highway of infidelity for cheaters.
 
i respect your opinion, and will admitt that i have never been married myself, but i feel marriage is sharing one's self with another completely.
intimacy goes along with the other points you made about marriage. while i do agree with the historical inequity among the sexes, i will add that more and more women are becoming independent and look for more than the traditional man as a provider. they can provide for themselves. they look now for companionship and love.
and while we live in a highily sexed world....you can get sex anywhere so again why make a commitment if you are not gonna be committed.

I hear and respect your views on this topic as well. I just think that the commitment that people make is to children, family, assets and the future. Sexual fidelity (especially for men) has only come to the fore as women (thankfully) have become more equal partners in society and as such, come to expect more control over the man's behavior in a way that was impossible before the women's liberation movement. But I totally agree that as each partner becomes more financially independent, the function and expectations of a relationship change significantly (for both partners).

No matter how we try to spin it, it will always be the adage of a man wants to be her first, and a woman wants to be his last.

And unfortunately, no man in general wants to give up potential pussy by disclosing to his mate what he's about to do, incase she shuts it down.

Plus relationships can be temporary, AIDS isn't. I dont want a slut's nasty STD brought back to my home and in me.

All in all, it's disenheartening to not have a solution for infidelity at this juncture of relationships...and the explosion of the internet has been like getting on the super highway of infidelity for cheaters.

I, personally have no interest in being a woman's 'first'. I have always felt that the idea of being her first is closely correlated with notions of 'purity' that are closely linked to concepts of woman as male property (and hence a man's right to 'unspoiled' condition), denial of a woman's own agency in society (as sexual being, political/economic actor, etc) that I have a great problem with.

That being said, Kunoichi's concerns about health concerns are well-placed. But a monogamous relationship doesn't insure that a partner hasn't brought something into the relationship before it could be detected by testing or that a person could contract it by other means. I should have specified that my views on this begin with the assumption of taking precautions and honesty. Thanks for the feedback.
 
Bullshit horsecrap cowdung :cool:

Why do you think it's bullshit? Your not even a woman. Most the time for women sex is more than physical pleasure. You get pleasure emotionally. You feel wanted, you feel an emotional attachment during sex, etc. Men are easy to get hard. It's as simple as rubbing the dick. Even if a man does not want to get hard, it can be very uncontrollable. A woman on the other hand don't always get wet just b/c you rub, lick, finger, or penetrate her pussy. Women are much more complex and need their emotions working in their favor. Unlike where a man can control getting hard, a woman can control not getting wet. If she doesn't want it, it's not going to happen no matter how good of job your doing below. What typically makes a woman wet is to touch her emotions. Make her feel good about herself, about what she is doing for you, about how you feel about her, etc. All these things are led by emotions and that is how women work.
 
Why do you think it's bullshit? Your not even a woman. Most the time for women sex is more than physical pleasure. You get pleasure emotionally. You feel wanted, you feel an emotional attachment during sex, etc. Men are easy to get hard. It's as simple as rubbing the dick. Even if a man does not want to get hard, it can be very uncontrollable. A woman on the other hand don't always get wet just b/c you rub, lick, finger, or penetrate her pussy. Women are much more complex and need their emotions working in their favor. Unlike where a man can control getting hard, a woman can control not getting wet. If she doesn't want it, it's not going to happen no matter how good of job your doing below. What typically makes a woman wet is to touch her emotions. Make her feel good about herself, about what she is doing for you, about how you feel about her, etc. All these things are led by emotions and that is how women work.

Yeah that's why some rape victims actually climax because they were connecting emotionally right? Smdh
 
Yeah that's why some rape victims actually climax because they were connecting emotionally right? Smdh

Are u for real. Women rape victims do not climax during rape. Why do you think a woman has cuts and tears and damaged skin down there after a rape? A woman will not produce fluids therefore the dryness and forcefulness will tear the shit out of you.

A man on the other hand can get raped by another man like a forced blow job for example and he can not keep his dick from getting hard nor reaching climax.
 
Are u for real. Women rape victims do not climax during rape. Why do you think a woman has cuts and tears and damaged skin down there after a rape? A woman will not produce fluids therefore the dryness and forcefulness will tear the shit out of you.

A man on the other hand can get raped by another man like a forced blow job for example and he can not keep his dick from getting hard nor reaching climax.

Regina. A womans body is designed to protect itself, too. She will get wet at some point. Three body tries to prevent tearing. Take it from someone who knows......
 
Regina. A womans body is designed to protect itself, too. She will get wet at some point. Three body tries to prevent tearing. Take it from someone who knows......

DB, your thread has spilled over into the thread "What is this women cheat for emotional reasons [sic]?". Check it out.
 
of course it's not normal YOU ARE THE ONE THAT SAID IT CAN'T HAPPEN

B/C it's not what generally happens. A woman most often withstands control through her emotions and man does not. That is my ENTIRE point. For example, a woman is mad and you go down on her or have sex with her while she lays there mad. She can be motionless, and remain unaffected by what affects her greatly during her wanting to desire it. Of course she can choose to enjoy you but the point being typically she has a choice in the matter.
 
B/C it's not what generally happens. A woman most often withstands control through her emotions and man does not. That is my ENTIRE point. For example, a woman is mad and you go down on her or have sex with her while she lays there mad. She can be motionless, and remain unaffected by what affects her greatly during her wanting to desire it. Of course she can choose to enjoy you but the point being typically she has a choice in the matter.

So your argument is that women have complete emotional and physical control over there bodies so much so that no matter the sexual stimuli they have to choose to be aroused where as a man can't help getting hard no matter what the situation is.

I hope your divorce attorney reads this post in the event either your man or you cheat genius, Smdh:rolleyes:
 
B/C it's not what generally happens. A woman most often withstands control through her emotions and man does not. That is my ENTIRE point. For example, a woman is mad and you go down on her or have sex with her while she lays there mad. She can be motionless, and remain unaffected by what affects her greatly during her wanting to desire it. Of course she can choose to enjoy you but the point being typically she has a choice in the matter.

Are you joking? You ARE joking right? Im sorry but this is complete bollocks. The female genitals are no different from the male. We do not have some kind of superpower where we will not get physically aroused unless our minds are aroused?! Are you serious?! I soooo have to disagree. I can be angry and furious as hell and totally not wanting sex at all and a little bit of hands down the pants will ALWAYS get things going even if I'm not up for it because it's a physical/biological response. My vagina doesnt have a brain!?
 
Are you joking? You ARE joking right? Im sorry but this is complete bollocks. The female genitals are no different from the male. We do not have some kind of superpower where we will not get physically aroused unless our minds are aroused?! Are you serious?! I soooo have to disagree. I can be angry and furious as hell and totally not wanting sex at all and a little bit of hands down the pants will ALWAYS get things going even if I'm not up for it because it's a physical/biological response. My vagina doesnt have a brain!?

I'd rep you for this sticky but apparently I have to spread it around. Good post kid.
 
Are u for real. Women rape victims do not climax during rape. Why do you think a woman has cuts and tears and damaged skin down there after a rape? A woman will not produce fluids therefore the dryness and forcefulness will tear the shit out of you.

A man on the other hand can get raped by another man like a forced blow job for example and he can not keep his dick from getting hard nor reaching climax.

You definitely need to research this subject, because orgasm reportedly does happen in roughly 15-20% of rapes for various reasons that have nothing to do with being turned on.

Regina. A womans body is designed to protect itself, too. She will get wet at some point. Three body tries to prevent tearing. Take it from someone who knows......

Been there too and there was no wetness at all.

The wetness factor depends on a number of things...sometimes the woman will get wet & sometimes she won't. Often the physical response is just the body doing what it's designed to do. Again, it has nothing to do with being turned on.
 
You definitely need to research this subject, because orgasm reportedly does happen in roughly 15-20% of rapes for various reasons that have nothing to do with being turned on.

The wetness factor depends on a number of things...sometimes the woman will get wet & sometimes she won't. Often the physical response is just the body doing what it's designed to do. Again, it has nothing to do with being turned on.

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