NFL QB National Anthem Protest

Paniro187 said:
From the story:

He added that NFL players were under different conditions from other parts of society. “I respect their right to have freedom of speech. However, in certain organizations and certain jobs you give up that right of your freedom of speech [temporarily] while you serve that job or while you play in an NFL game,” Bell said.





He through in that "however" and just like the word "but" it negates everything before it.
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To even infer or let that come from your lips to give up the right is bs. No one ask Clive bundy to give up his rights or the gun advocates
 
Beasty said:
Working out and bikes? That's open minded? Lol.

Nearly every red blooded male likes those things what are you talking about?

Nearly every post I've seen about anything else he has posted reeked of ignorance, maybe you two talk off line.
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It's called being an adult and separating the times you disagree with the times we agree. I can do that with my liberal friends IRL as well. Hell I flew to Houston to see my kids and check on my house and fam this past weekend. One of the nights I went with friends to the bar and we talked politics, Blm, etc. etc. at the end of the night no names were called, no one called anyone a "coon" "sell out" or any other names.

We bullshitted drank gave pound and that was it. Pulled a cylinder head the next day for my most hard core liberal friend that night.

Bottom line agree to disagree without being disagreeable. And no a persons opinion doesn't make them disagreeable.
 
Paniro187 said:
What I'm getting at there is that this welfare and other bullshit has done nothing but hurt the community. That's all, we aren't "getting" those that will give you anything are perfectly content giving you what they want to give you as long as they can tell you where to live and how high you can rise.
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Paniro187 said:
Then fight for reparations not fucking peanuts.
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I say use it and work the hell out of the system
 
Paniro187 said:
It's called being an adult and separating the times you disagree with the times we agree. I can do that with my liberal friends IRL as well. Hell I flew to Houston to see my kids and check on my house and fam this past weekend. One of the nights I went with friends to the bar and we talked politics, Blm, etc. etc. at the end of the night no names were called, no one called anyone a "coon" "sell out" or any other names.

We bullshitted drank gave pound and that was it. Pulled a cylinder head the next day for my most hard core liberal friend that night.

Bottom line agree to disagree without being disagreeable. And no a persons opinion doesn't make them disagreeable.
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I don't expect my friends to agree with me on everything but the self hate stuff is just unacceptable. What does self hate have to do with being an adult?

Looking down on one another and having lack of self respect can do us no good as black men. Its really pointless to have a friend that subscribes to the nonsense that we fight against in this society.

We as black people tend to tolerate too much bullshit from self hating blacks. Its one of our biggest flaws that hinders progress.

Accepting the fact that your friends may disagree is not the same thing as being accepting to a self hating blackman. The self hater is a friend to none.

Paniro187 said:
We had never "bumped heads" about working out.
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Your memory is shorter than mine. Not a big deal tho. As long as what you do works for you I'm happy for you. We bumped heads because you were making general statements that could have been misleading to someone in need of knowledge.
 
The Dark King said:
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/das...ds-in-air-before-tulsa-police-shoot-him-dead/

And see this shit right here perfectly sums up why CK
is doing what he's doing. I'm so beyond disgusted right now.
Dude who had five bombs and had a shoot out with the cops some how gets arrested but another bm who is unarmed and complying despite the fact he broke no laws gets killed?
I dare someone to say all lives matter
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darkcurry said:
I'm just now seeing this, truly disgusting. RIP Terence Crutcher
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https://twitter.com/LeahRBoss/status/778040582971285504 despicable

https://twitter.com/FranqueThompson/status/777251675480391680

https://twitter.com/Crystal1Johnson/status/777989058689536000
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Looks like the local Tulsa News tried to scrub a racist-ass comment that 1 of the cops in the Helicopter said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3-udaFIkGU
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Beasty said:
I don't expect my friends to agree with me on everything but the self hate stuff is just unacceptable. What does self hate have to do with being an adult?

Looking down on one another and having lack of self respect can do us no good as black men. Its really pointless to have a friend that subscribes to the nonsense that we fight against in this society.

We as black people tend to tolerate too much bullshit from self hating blacks. Its one of our biggest flaws that hinders progress.

Accepting the fact that your friends may disagree is not the same thing as being accepting to a self hating blackman. The self hater is a friend to none.

Your memory is shorter than mine. Not a big deal tho. As long as what you do works for you I'm happy for you. We bumped heads because you were making general statements that could have been misleading to someone in need of knowledge.
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Agree to disagree then my opinion vs your opinion.


On workouts: My workouts work for the people I help. So whatever.
 
The Dark King said:
You guys smell that? Good old fashion American white privilege.
Nothing better than someone who never has to deal with racism trying to tell you what is and at what degree to take it seriously.
That's like saying sexual assault or harassment isn't that big of deal because these sheltered women weren't actually raped. Stalking is no big deal just some guy showing a lot of interest.
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Paniro187 said:
What I'm getting at there is that this welfare and other bullshit has done nothing but hurt the community. That's all, we aren't "getting" those that will give you anything are perfectly content giving you what they want to give you as long as they can tell you where to live and how high you can rise.
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Sir, I totally disagree. If you say we need welfare reform... I'd agree as the current system is definitely broken. I guess I'm sort a passionate about this subject because for some time my family rec'd public benefits while both of my parents were laid off at the same time. However, it didn't make them lazy, and they didn't abuse the system. I don't know the length of time, but eventually they got back on their feet and we continued along. That said... my brother and I turned out just fine. I'm all for people working hard, but I'm totally against this "pull yourself up by your own bootstrap mentality".

I don't disagree that we need to do better in our community. We definitely do, but I don't think snatching the rug from under people who may fall on hard times (like a layoff, illness, etc) this the way to go.
 
The Dark King said:
And shit like this is why I freak out and get upset when being detained for no reason because it can easily lead to this, it's an ongoing epidemic.
Quick someone ask about black on black crime and say all lives matter.
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Exactly!!! Obviously the civilian has a duty in this, and it may well be a simple thing, but we know the reality is...The outcome is heavily contingent on the mentality/motives of the officers involved.
 
darkcurry said:
It's one of the reasons why i expect many more of these over the upcoming weekend.
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I really respect Malcolm standing.
He's standing <-- up for his Rights and reform.

Malcolm has a good relationship with the Philly community
and the PPD.
Relationships are a bit strained right now
because of what happened on Friday night here.
I know it wasn't spotlight news news on here,
but a gunman, Nicholas Glenn,
walked up to a (black) female officer in her squad car
and shot her in vengence because he hated cops.
He continued on a shooting rampage that killed
an innocent civilian and injured another cop.
They found a rambling note entitled ‘doomed’.

Malcolm as a result reached out to them
and was in dialogue with them, which l respect him for.
His intention is to stand for justice for innocent people
killed by cops and oppression in general,
and in no way shows solidarity for cop killers.
I think some not seeing the big picture
might be confusing that.


MilkandCoffee said:
This is a perfect example that it doesn't matter what a BM looks like, how he dresses, or what his profession is; he will always be seen as a moving target. Now let's see how the media tries to flip him into some kind of criminal by bringing up old, unrelated personal history.
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I read yesterday that he was a Pastor.
His murder was unconscionable and outrageous.
Betty needs to be prosecuted.
Their Chief sounded thoroughly disgusted at the shooting
at the Press Conference yesterday.
Prayers for his family. Totally heartbreaking.
 
Beasty said:
Nah, pretty sure that's just an OTH. It's not right to get a dishonorable over that. With an OTH you just lose benefits, it's just like you never joined. With a dishorable you are fucked. I would advise anyone to challenge that, but yeah either way you can lose that clearance.
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Ahh ok. I thought it was the other way around. I knew a dude who got kicked out for providing alcohol to a bunch of minors after the MPs got called to the barracks and he got hit with a dishonorable if remember correctly. I thought OTH was if you busted tape or were a PT failure at which you get kicked out but it can be turned into an honorable after x amount of months after a review or something. I know one dude who busted tape and got kicked out and secured a nice contractor job right after.

The Dark King said:
Downsizing for What? We about to go to war again
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Nah, downsizing because we've pulled out of Iraq(kinda) planning to pull out of Afghanistan but of course in a few years we'll be balls deep somewhere else and they're gonna need the numbers again.
 
Paniro187 said:
Aaaaand?

What's funny is the fact that you would concern yourselves enough to dig that shit up. Lol I feel honored.
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If you can read you would know TDK mentioned you and working out in the same post.

Its good that my memory serves me so I dont waste time discussing exercise with a non scientific mind. :-D
 
GFunk said:
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Nah, downsizing because we've pulled out of Iraq(kinda) planning to pull out of Afghanistan but of course in a few years we'll be balls deep somewhere else and they're gonna need the numbers again.
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Somewhere else? Lol..They're churning them out in Afghanistan.
 
GFunk said:
Ahh ok. I thought it was the other way around. I knew a dude who got kicked out for providing alcohol to a bunch of minors after the MPs got called to the barracks and he got hit with a dishonorable if remember correctly. I thought OTH was if you busted tape or were a PT failure at which you get kicked out but it can be turned into an honorable after x amount of months after a review or something. I know one dude who busted tape and got kicked out and secured a nice contractor job right after.
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OTH sounds harsh for a pt failure. OTH is usually given for some kind of misconduct. Something like smoking pot would be an OTH for sure. I don't think that is reversible.

The guy you are talking about may have gotten some kind of admin sep which I think is still honorable. Not sure. Thats still something you don't want because it will reflect on your renlistment code.

A bad reenlistment code is just like not getting a reference from a past employer. It can still be an honorable discharge but certain employers will see it and pass you up, mainly government.

I think army and navy use the same reenlistment codes if so you want an RE1. A RE4 is a bar to reenlistment and says the the military will not take you back which could screw you out of some potential positions mainly in government.
 
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