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Peach State Scholar
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Hell yeah on the Argentinian wine. Malbec or GTFO.
andreboba
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And Yet Trump picked anti-gay marriage governor Mike Pence to be his VP.
Does Trump believe in the concept of hate crimes, because most conservatives don't and think it just gives special protections to minorities.
If Trump is really concerned about the Black community, why was he so afraid to speak at a Black college during his campaign???
IMO Trump has always had a paternalistic attitude towards Black people. I have yet to see anything from him that demonstrates he actually respects and is genuinely concerned about our issues.
Besides he just nominated a Supreme Court justice many court watches believes is a Scalia clone and will overturn affirmative action and Roe v. Wade.
LOL. As you conservatives love to say, I won't take what Trump says literally, but I will take his actions literally.
Beasty
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Yessir! You can pick that up anywhere too. Don't sleep on the pinot noir from there tho. If you like that particular grape. I usually go Italian for that but not always.
ColiBreh1
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/827002559122567168
The Dark King
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Or how about the Navy Seal who got killed. Had to hear about Bengazi for years bet not one peep from the other side
K
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/01/us/milo-yiannopoulos-berkeley/
Berkeley, California (CNN)Violence erupted Wednesday night at UC Berkeley -- the same campus where the Free Speech Movement began -- to protest a scheduled talk by right-wing commentator Milo Yiannopoulos.
The university blamed "150 masked agitators" for the unrest, saying they had come to campus to disturb an otherwise peaceful protest.
Administrators decided to cancel the event about two hours before the Breitbart editor's speech. UC Berkeley said it removed him from campus "amid the violence and destruction of property and out of concern for public safety."
Black-clad protesters wearing masks threw commercial-grade fireworks and rocks at police. Some even hurled Molotov cocktails that ignited fires. They also smashed windows of the student union center on the Berkeley campus where the Yiannopoulos event was to be held.
At least six people were injured. Some were attacked by the agitators -- who are a part of an anarchist group known as the "Black Bloc" that has been causing problems in Oakland for years, said Dan Mogulof, UC Berkeley spokesman.
More than 1,500 protesters had gathered at Sproul Plaza, chanting and holding signs that read: "No safe space for racists" and "This is war."
The violent protesters tore down metal barriers, set fires near the campus bookstore and damaged the construction site of a new dorm. One woman wearing a red Trump hat was pepper sprayed in the face while being interviewed by CNN affiliate KGO. She was able to respond that she was OK after the attack.
As the scene spiraled out of control, university police warned protesters to disperse and issued a lockdown for campus buildings.
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"We condemn in the strongest possible terms the violence and unlawful behavior that was on display and deeply regret that those tactics will now overshadow the efforts to engage in legitimate and lawful protest against the performer's presence and perspectives," UC Berkeley said in a statement.
"While Yiannopoulos' views, tactics and rhetoric are profoundly contrary to our own, we are bound by the Constitution, the law, our values and the campus's Principles of Community to enable free expression across the full spectrum of opinion and perspective," it stated.
As police dispersed the crowd from campus, a remaining group of protesters moved into downtown Berkeley and smashed windows at several local banks.
No arrests were made throughout the night.
Yiannopoulos on college speaking tour
Yiannopoulos had been invited to speak by the Berkeley College Republicans. He has been on a college speaking tour and had planned to speak about cultural appropriation on Wednesday.
In a Facebook Live video, Yiannopoulos described what happened as "an expression of political violence."
"I'm just stunned that hundreds of people ... were so threatened by the idea that a conservative speaker might be persuasive, interesting, funny and might take some people with him, they have to shut it down at all costs."
President Donald Trump weighed in on Twitter, suggesting the possibility of cutting federal funds to the public university.
"If U.C. Berkeley does not allow free speech and practices violence on innocent people with a different point of view -- NO FEDERAL FUNDS?" Trump tweeted Thursday morning.
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If U.C. Berkeley does not allow free speech and practices violence on innocent people with a different point of view - NO FEDERAL FUNDS?
3:13 AM - 2 Feb 2017
But some protesters said the Yiannopoulos event wasn't a matter of free speech, because he espouses hate speech.
Protesters shut down Milo Yiannopoulos event at UC Davis
UC Berkeley said it had prepared security measures following what had happened at Yiannopoulos' previous events. One of his planned speaking engagements at UC Davis was also canceled last month in response to protests.
"Ultimately, and unfortunately, however, it was impossible to maintain order given the level of threat, disruption and organized violence," UC Berkeley said in a statement.
Controversial speech
Most UC Berkeley students who spoke with CNN said they were relieved that Yiannopoulos wasn't able to speak, but this was not how they wanted to accomplish that goal.
One student told CNN that he didn't agree with what happened.
"It's a sad irony in the fact that the Free Speech Movement was founded here and tonight, someone's free speech got shut down. It might have been hateful speech, but it's still his right to speak," said Shivam Patel, a freshmen who stood outside of Sproul Plaza.
The Free Speech Movement started at UC Berkeley in 1964 after students protested en masse when administrators tried to restrict their political activities on campus.
Patel said he supported peaceful protests, but disagreed with the way things turned out on Wednesday.
"It allows people on the right to say, 'Look at all these liberal Berkeley snowflakes. They're intolerant of speech.' I don't think it's productive at all. It does nothing to help this country."
CNN's Jamiel Lynch and Stephanie Becker contributed to this report.
Berkeley, California (CNN)Violence erupted Wednesday night at UC Berkeley -- the same campus where the Free Speech Movement began -- to protest a scheduled talk by right-wing commentator Milo Yiannopoulos.
The university blamed "150 masked agitators" for the unrest, saying they had come to campus to disturb an otherwise peaceful protest.
Administrators decided to cancel the event about two hours before the Breitbart editor's speech. UC Berkeley said it removed him from campus "amid the violence and destruction of property and out of concern for public safety."
Black-clad protesters wearing masks threw commercial-grade fireworks and rocks at police. Some even hurled Molotov cocktails that ignited fires. They also smashed windows of the student union center on the Berkeley campus where the Yiannopoulos event was to be held.
At least six people were injured. Some were attacked by the agitators -- who are a part of an anarchist group known as the "Black Bloc" that has been causing problems in Oakland for years, said Dan Mogulof, UC Berkeley spokesman.
More than 1,500 protesters had gathered at Sproul Plaza, chanting and holding signs that read: "No safe space for racists" and "This is war."
The violent protesters tore down metal barriers, set fires near the campus bookstore and damaged the construction site of a new dorm. One woman wearing a red Trump hat was pepper sprayed in the face while being interviewed by CNN affiliate KGO. She was able to respond that she was OK after the attack.
As the scene spiraled out of control, university police warned protesters to disperse and issued a lockdown for campus buildings.
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UC Police, Berkeley @UCPD_CalMultiple dispersal orders have been given for the Milo protest. Please leave campus or avoid the area. @UCBerkeley #miloatcal
6:54 PM - 1 Feb 2017
"We condemn in the strongest possible terms the violence and unlawful behavior that was on display and deeply regret that those tactics will now overshadow the efforts to engage in legitimate and lawful protest against the performer's presence and perspectives," UC Berkeley said in a statement.
"While Yiannopoulos' views, tactics and rhetoric are profoundly contrary to our own, we are bound by the Constitution, the law, our values and the campus's Principles of Community to enable free expression across the full spectrum of opinion and perspective," it stated.
As police dispersed the crowd from campus, a remaining group of protesters moved into downtown Berkeley and smashed windows at several local banks.
No arrests were made throughout the night.
Yiannopoulos on college speaking tour
Yiannopoulos had been invited to speak by the Berkeley College Republicans. He has been on a college speaking tour and had planned to speak about cultural appropriation on Wednesday.
In a Facebook Live video, Yiannopoulos described what happened as "an expression of political violence."
"I'm just stunned that hundreds of people ... were so threatened by the idea that a conservative speaker might be persuasive, interesting, funny and might take some people with him, they have to shut it down at all costs."
President Donald Trump weighed in on Twitter, suggesting the possibility of cutting federal funds to the public university.
"If U.C. Berkeley does not allow free speech and practices violence on innocent people with a different point of view -- NO FEDERAL FUNDS?" Trump tweeted Thursday morning.
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If U.C. Berkeley does not allow free speech and practices violence on innocent people with a different point of view - NO FEDERAL FUNDS?
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But some protesters said the Yiannopoulos event wasn't a matter of free speech, because he espouses hate speech.
Protesters shut down Milo Yiannopoulos event at UC Davis
UC Berkeley said it had prepared security measures following what had happened at Yiannopoulos' previous events. One of his planned speaking engagements at UC Davis was also canceled last month in response to protests.
"Ultimately, and unfortunately, however, it was impossible to maintain order given the level of threat, disruption and organized violence," UC Berkeley said in a statement.
Controversial speech
Most UC Berkeley students who spoke with CNN said they were relieved that Yiannopoulos wasn't able to speak, but this was not how they wanted to accomplish that goal.
One student told CNN that he didn't agree with what happened.
"It's a sad irony in the fact that the Free Speech Movement was founded here and tonight, someone's free speech got shut down. It might have been hateful speech, but it's still his right to speak," said Shivam Patel, a freshmen who stood outside of Sproul Plaza.
The Free Speech Movement started at UC Berkeley in 1964 after students protested en masse when administrators tried to restrict their political activities on campus.
Patel said he supported peaceful protests, but disagreed with the way things turned out on Wednesday.
"It allows people on the right to say, 'Look at all these liberal Berkeley snowflakes. They're intolerant of speech.' I don't think it's productive at all. It does nothing to help this country."
CNN's Jamiel Lynch and Stephanie Becker contributed to this report.
DudeNY12
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/01/us/milo-yiannopoulos-berkeley/
Berkeley, California (CNN)Violence erupted Wednesday night at UC Berkeley -- the same campus where the Free Speech Movement began -- to protest a scheduled talk by right-wing commentator Milo Yiannopoulos.
The university blamed "150 masked agitators" for the unrest, saying they had come to campus to disturb an otherwise peaceful protest.
Administrators decided to cancel the event about two hours before the Breitbart editor's speech. UC Berkeley said it removed him from campus "amid the violence and destruction of property and out of concern for public safety."
Black-clad protesters wearing masks threw commercial-grade fireworks and rocks at police. Some even hurled Molotov cocktails that ignited fires. They also smashed windows of the student union center on the Berkeley campus where the Yiannopoulos event was to be held.
At least six people were injured. Some were attacked by the agitators -- who are a part of an anarchist group known as the "Black Bloc" that has been causing problems in Oakland for years, said Dan Mogulof, UC Berkeley spokesman.
More than 1,500 protesters had gathered at Sproul Plaza, chanting and holding signs that read: "No safe space for racists" and "This is war."
The violent protesters tore down metal barriers, set fires near the campus bookstore and damaged the construction site of a new dorm. One woman wearing a red Trump hat was pepper sprayed in the face while being interviewed by CNN affiliate KGO. She was able to respond that she was OK after the attack.
As the scene spiraled out of control, university police warned protesters to disperse and issued a lockdown for campus buildings.
Follow
Multiple dispersal orders have been given for the Milo protest. Please leave campus or avoid the area. @UCBerkeley #miloatcal
6:54 PM - 1 Feb 2017
"We condemn in the strongest possible terms the violence and unlawful behavior that was on display and deeply regret that those tactics will now overshadow the efforts to engage in legitimate and lawful protest against the performer's presence and perspectives," UC Berkeley said in a statement.
"While Yiannopoulos' views, tactics and rhetoric are profoundly contrary to our own, we are bound by the Constitution, the law, our values and the campus's Principles of Community to enable free expression across the full spectrum of opinion and perspective," it stated.
As police dispersed the crowd from campus, a remaining group of protesters moved into downtown Berkeley and smashed windows at several local banks.
No arrests were made throughout the night.
Yiannopoulos on college speaking tour
Yiannopoulos had been invited to speak by the Berkeley College Republicans. He has been on a college speaking tour and had planned to speak about cultural appropriation on Wednesday.
In a Facebook Live video, Yiannopoulos described what happened as "an expression of political violence."
"I'm just stunned that hundreds of people ... were so threatened by the idea that a conservative speaker might be persuasive, interesting, funny and might take some people with him, they have to shut it down at all costs."
President Donald Trump weighed in on Twitter, suggesting the possibility of cutting federal funds to the public university.
"If U.C. Berkeley does not allow free speech and practices violence on innocent people with a different point of view -- NO FEDERAL FUNDS?" Trump tweeted Thursday morning.
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?@realDonaldTrump
If U.C. Berkeley does not allow free speech and practices violence on innocent people with a different point of view - NO FEDERAL FUNDS?
3:13 AM - 2 Feb 2017
But some protesters said the Yiannopoulos event wasn't a matter of free speech, because he espouses hate speech.
Protesters shut down Milo Yiannopoulos event at UC Davis
UC Berkeley said it had prepared security measures following what had happened at Yiannopoulos' previous events. One of his planned speaking engagements at UC Davis was also canceled last month in response to protests.
"Ultimately, and unfortunately, however, it was impossible to maintain order given the level of threat, disruption and organized violence," UC Berkeley said in a statement.
Controversial speech
Most UC Berkeley students who spoke with CNN said they were relieved that Yiannopoulos wasn't able to speak, but this was not how they wanted to accomplish that goal.
One student told CNN that he didn't agree with what happened.
"It's a sad irony in the fact that the Free Speech Movement was founded here and tonight, someone's free speech got shut down. It might have been hateful speech, but it's still his right to speak," said Shivam Patel, a freshmen who stood outside of Sproul Plaza.
The Free Speech Movement started at UC Berkeley in 1964 after students protested en masse when administrators tried to restrict their political activities on campus.
Patel said he supported peaceful protests, but disagreed with the way things turned out on Wednesday.
"It allows people on the right to say, 'Look at all these liberal Berkeley snowflakes. They're intolerant of speech.' I don't think it's productive at all. It does nothing to help this country."
CNN's Jamiel Lynch and Stephanie Becker contributed to this report.
How many more ways can the orange one be so damn laughable, and sad (my god, we're so screwed). So... Yet, another threat for something the university leadership has spoken out against. Also.. while on the topic of free speech... Somehow, it's OK to basically censor parts of the government with gag orders. Not to mention his desire to choose which journalists cover the WH. (still) SMDH, in disgust.
Beasty
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This country is a political powder keg right now. So glad I live in a purple state. Seems like there is always something going on with California's Universities. That's a great state for education and technology, but bright blue is about as bad as dark red.
Leave it up to a poorly educated president to threaten cutting funds to a highly functional university that had a bad day.
Leave it up to a poorly educated president to threaten cutting funds to a highly functional university that had a bad day.
ColiBreh1
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andreboba
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I hope people don't fall for this head fake. This is all about the Alt-right not wanting their foot soldiers to be monitored and labeled as terrorists.
I'm sure Steve Bannon would call the KKK and Neo Nazis PATRIOTS.
How the fuck did this man get elected???
And when is someone going to talk about Trump's idiotic greenlight on the SEAL raid in Yemen?? WH spokesman keeps saying this mission was planned in November by the Obama administration, however Obama didn't have enough intel to sign off on the mission.
Yet now the Trump administration is saying it's not their fault they authorized the mission without sufficient intel. Bullshit.
You can't expect a newspaper from 3 months ago to give you correct news today.
It's the damn amateur hour in the WH. Very few if any competent domestic, military, or foreign policy experts and most of his own WH isn't even staffed.
And I heard today that the Trump administration has already begun to lift sanctions on Russia, beginning with the FSB.
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Beasty
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How are them idiots ever going to have sufficient intel when they have already alienated the CIA?
Beasty
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Trump on phone with Australian leader: 'This was the worst call by far'
"This is the worst deal ever," Trump fumed as Turnbull attempted to confirm that the United States would honor its pledge to take in 1,250 refugees from an Australian detention center.
Trump, who one day earlier had signed an executive order temporarily barring the admission of refugees, complained that he was "going to get killed" politically and accused Australia of seeking to export the "next Boston bombers."
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...lcoln-turnbull-phone-call-20170201-story.html
"This is the worst deal ever," Trump fumed as Turnbull attempted to confirm that the United States would honor its pledge to take in 1,250 refugees from an Australian detention center.
Trump, who one day earlier had signed an executive order temporarily barring the admission of refugees, complained that he was "going to get killed" politically and accused Australia of seeking to export the "next Boston bombers."
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...lcoln-turnbull-phone-call-20170201-story.html
RaiderLL
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It's absolutely never ok and hurts their cause more than it would ever help obviously but I truly believe people with well meaning intentions end up behaving this way when all logic and reason has failed to work. By no means do I agree with violence or doing damage to property, but I can almost understand why they're to that point. Conservatives have brought this on themselves in my opinion. Trying to revoke rights that we've fought years to get/maintain, trying to force others to live by the beliefs of religious conservatives, creating a society that endorses hate, trying to revoke basic human Rights for the people these conservatives view as less than... how much can people be expected to take? So many have lost complete hope in this country and their place in this country, it's not at all surprising that ugliness ensues.
It's frustrating and not the proper path to go down, but I get their frustration.
K
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Supposedly there is some fringe group that was at both protests just to cause problems and are the ones responsible for escalating things and attacking the police throwing fire crackers and other things at them. It then moved into the streets and they vandalized 15 buildings. I sortof believe it was a fringe group just because we've had soooo many protests (even in the highways - which is crazy too) that have not become violent.
I don't really get the knee jerk reaction to pull funding. The University can't control it and this isn't a chronic situation. To be threatening that after one incident is nuts.
Now he's going on about Arnold and The Apprentice. I really think we are all in the Twilight Zone right now.
RaiderLL
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It absolutely feels twilight zone-y! All I see when Trump makes these knee jerk reaction comments is a power hungry egomaniac. He's eating this up, while the rest of us fear whatever's coming next. It's absolutely unreal to think he's the leader of this country. I'm not usually a "the world is coming to an end" type, like TDK lol, but I pray everyday that this country survives long enough to see that idiot, and his equally-hateful minions, out of power.