Emma Watson's Response To Being Called A White Feminist

And for the last time. I provided links, articles, with facts, feminist opinion pieces, experiences, and have no issue producing links with more facts and figures.

The truth of the matter is I base my arguments on information. Which, in spite of being a rape survivor, doesn't show a skewed view. It shows an informed view.

Considering that at, now 6 pages, not a single link to information providing a counter argument to the issue of white feminism has been presented.
So, in spite of 2 or 3 self proclaimed feminists attempting to discredit my argument with nothing more than personal opinion and using my personal experiences against me, it becomes quite obvious who's view has been skewed, and I can assure it is not mine.

In regards to Emma Watson, I am not entirely sure she wrote that herself. But, whether she did or didn't if her statements are heart felt and genuine I sincerely hope she uses her position to make a change.

Because it seems there are plenty within this forum, that are very quick to dismiss, ignore, and downplay the white supremacy within feminism. That, is a very sad thing.
 
Feminism (like a lot of social causes) has a self-honesty problem. Proponents doggedly defend it using 'part' of the dictionary definition.

(Merriam Webster.com)
: the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes
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They say all they want is total equality of the sexes, and anybody who wants equality is by default also a feminist. But here is the rub, feminism has a 2nd definition that gets overlooked
: organized activity on behalf of women's rights and interests
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Sure it's true that what is in someone's personal interests can intersect with what is in the best interest for another group, However, what is in someone's interest typically means that person's needs and wants are prioritized over another's.

Most people who are on the outside of feminism can see that feminism is as much about self-interest as they are about "equality" and I don't think they really care that much. The problem really arises when feminist aren't honest about it.
 
andreboba said:
Men typically are most likely victims of sexual assault as children. As adults, men are more at risk of sexual assault from another MAN than from a woman.

"More than you think" still means it's rare.

As for this entire discussion about White feminism being a corollary for White supremacy, or that somehow 'White feminism' is its own unique form of feminism, separate from the feminist beliefs of non-White women, etc., citing articles by random women trying to slur feminists who happen to be White doesn't make it a 'thing'.

So what was the point in calling Emma Watson a White feminist??
What had she done or said that made her deserving of this specific categorization??

As far as I can tell, Emma's unforgivable sin was that she dared call herself a 'feminist' but didn't have the appropriate brown skin.
It's akin to a White person announcing that he's from Mississippi and everyone else in the room standing up and saying, "Oh, you must be racist."

Yes, there are White feminists. No, there isn't a specific form of feminism called 'White feminism' that describes millions of feminists in this country in some meaningful way.
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That's rather dismissive Boba. And if we were to go with your 2nd statement, then we as a society, would never address any sexual assault.

As for the rest - not sure why you lumped that in with your response to me, given that I didn't speak about any of that. For someone who thinks it's so "odd" that a bunch of black men are interested in what feminism is and is not, you sure are in there battling.
 
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redlolly said:
My point is, so does EVERYONE. It's completely subjective.
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Including YOU. Given that you say this, one would think you would be more open to others stating their opinions.

Please explain what you mean when you say feminism is not a movement or ideology.
 
The Dark King said:
Interesting how you think progressive means socialist. Bet I'm an intellectual elite because I went to college huh. Keep riding with those actively trying to destroy you youngin. And I stand by what I said. Feminist as a whole do not see non white women as women. That's why people like Patricia Arcquette tell us its time for people of color and homosexual people to stand with women as if there can't be women who are of color and/or homosexual.
When I see the feminist cause extend to problems that extend beyond upper middle class white women then we can talk.
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It's that disconnect women like Patricia create themselves that is embeded with white privilege/white supremacy. Everybody else is other, just like it is socially conditioned into American society, culture and of course these systems for that other to be treated like 2nd class citizens. It is the same thing with class as to one of the reasons why you have classism. And A LOT of celebrities regardless of race practice that.
 
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Beasty said:
I don't get it, what exactly is the issue?
1.) Rape is disgusting to at least 99 percent of men. 2) The biggest enemy to women getting justice are the WOMEN that lie about being raped. 3.)There is no data supporting this imaginary pay gap.

Fuck is the movement really about? Domestic violence? Call the police or your brother, he gets his ass beat or jail.

What am I missing?

Courts favor women in child custody.

Ect. Ect........
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Absolutely. Which is why I don't understand why outside of them just responding out of pure anger they wouldn't want to distance themselves from the liars by asking for more thorough investigations and take on the justice system's failures. You approach systematic oppression with intelligence, awareness and ingenuity. Am I wrong for wanting to see that. Iam CONFIDENT there will be an overwhelming support from black men if they erased that just believe any woman that say it approach. They still don't realize how dangerous black men find that especially in this country where women still lie about that.
 
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meowkittenmeow said:
I suppose it is customary to speak about rape survivors as skewed. Good to know. Thanks, I find it interesting that just about every self proclaimed feminist on this website has attempted to use my experiences as a survivor to create an opinion that my views are skewed. When all I have done is provide information to support my opinion and views over multiple threads. Yet, none of you provide any credible information. It's good to know. Have a good one.

I'd also like to add, that this is a common excuse given for rape survivors who are attempting to fix the issues that caused rape, sexual assault, and violence in the first place. There really is nothing new under the sun.
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Good grief, please quit using the martyr card.
Nobody is calling rape survivors skewed.
You seem to blame feminism for what happened to you, therefore myself and others feel your views on feminism are skewed. I hope that clarifies things.

Myself and others have tried to explain this OP and the unjustified, unwarranted and counter-productive bias we feel exists in the opinions you hold about feminism and those who identify as feminists (myself included). That you refuse to accept this and adopt the posture of victim as final recourse doesn't come as a surprise, if I'm honest.
I have neither the time or the inclination to bandy words endlessly with you, which I suspect is your real aim here.
It seems the old adage is true... one can lead the horse to water...

As for your last post quoting me, I'm afraid I didn't read it.
 
K said:
Including YOU. Given that you say this, one would think you would be more open to others stating their opinions.
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I am absolutely open to others stating their opinions. At no point have I given any indication otherwise.
The problem arises when one definition or fixed set of opinions is taken and applied across the board to everyone who calls themselves feminist.

K said:
Please explain what you mean when you say feminism is not a movement or ideology.
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Only that it isn't an agenda or fixed set of ideas espoused by an army of disciples marching under a banner, as many choose to perceive it.
It's much broader than that. A fundamental part of the human condition. Of the way we view and act in the world.
You could argue not only the human condition. A fundamental component of consciousness... of life...
 
darkcurry said:
Absolutely. Which is why I don't understand why outside of them just responding out of pure anger they wouldn't want to distance themselves from the liars by asking for more thorough investigations and take on the justice system's failures. You approach systematic oppression with intelligence, awareness and ingenuity. Am I wrong for wanting to see that. Iam CONFIDENT there will be an overwhelming support from black men if they erased that just believe any woman that say it approach. They still don't realize how dangerous black men find that especially in this country where women still lie about that.
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Because feminism is wgtow. Where all women are not only invited but they are considered correct, even those that are really enemies to rape victims. And like mgtow, they never go their own way they just want everyone to hear them complain.
 
Beasty said:
Because feminism is wgtow. Where all women are not only invited but they are considered correct, even those that are really enemies to rape victims. And like mgtow, they never go their own way they just want everyone to hear them complain.
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Wgtow, lol, I have noticed the similarities between each movement. You are spot on there. The mgtow movement, if you can call it that, has a great deal of complaining.

But, with each group, some are capable of citing articles and data, and others just try to prove an argument without any data or information to back it up. That happens whether it is feminism or mgtow or MRAs.
 
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darkcurry said:
As I said there is no laws NEEDED for segregation when you have people thinking like this. I think a lot of people, mainly a lot of American people would welcome some straight Jim Crowe shit you know what I mean?
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seriously! Lately so many times I truly feel like I've woken up in the Twighlight Zone.
 
darkcurry said:
As I said there is no laws NEEDED for segregation when you have people thinking like this. I think a lot of people, mainly a lot of American people would welcome some straight Jim Crowe shit you know what I mean?
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Lol, for every action there is an equal reaction I guess. It was onky a matter of time for this stuff to happen. I think people like that have always existed, I guess someone just gave a name to it.
 
K said:
seriously! Lately so many times I truly feel like I've woken up in the Twighlight Zone.
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Reminds me of black mirror sometimes. For the record, if you ever watch that show, avoid the first episode of the first season at all costs.
 
meowkittenmeow said:
Lol, for every action there is an equal reaction I guess. It was onky a matter of time for this stuff to happen. I think people like that have always existed, I guess someone just gave a name to it.
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I'm beginning to think that this is the time for those in the extreme minorities are coming to light as if they are some sort of majority.
 
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