My Apologies. No BS

debating is cool (like you stated) as long as it done devolve into throwing insults.

I believe people (me included) get upset because you can really get the tone differently from what the person wanted. you can miscontrue it for being an insult when it wasnt. its different over the net when in person

 

Very true post. It's why threads turn from sugar to shit so quick. I respect Webbie's attempt to restore order (with his Guidelines thread) even though that became futile, lol. You and I don't get cutthroat when we argue, even though our tones can get testy and frustrated, so it's all good in the world of debate.

 

yeah no doubt. we (I) need to try to be more cognizant of it. I tried (failed bad) to tone it down with the something is wrong thread and it went south real quick. OH well. I hope this will work.

maybe everyone can do a group hug and shit .

 

Tam that was my ENTIRE point thank you. White people in general aren't offended by terms like cracker and honky. It's comical, that's why it was in a lot of sitcoms has characters saying it and it was laughable. That's why I can't see it as an insult. If it doesn't sting then how is it truly insulting.

 

I have said, repeatedly, that I never make a discussion personal by resorting to offensive language and personal insults. IMO, the object of any discussion should be to share different viewpoints and provide greater understanding of topics. I'm happy that our exchanges were civil and respectful as well.

 

Sometimes it not just the word, but how well you know the person, the delivery and the other words that are put with it. Those things can pump up a words meaning bad or good.

 

Hey...can one "act" smart? LOL..that was a dig, I know I know...

In an event,

I think you made a point out of it because I made a point out of "black bitch" I didn't sense any offense, anger, or put-off-ed-ness from you because of it, on the contrary. I didn't believe you gave one hoot about "cracker"

"Cracker" and "honkey" is often brought up by many whites in faux anger in comparison to "black bitch" and "nigger" as if to say "Hey look, we got some bad words too"

On the real if you took offense to it...really, this it was wrong; however, I don't think that was the case.

doubtful

 

Thanks for your gracious words Tam. I certainly try hard to conduct myself in a respectful way, and I appreciate the fact that someone recognizes that I try to be part of the solution, and not part of the problem.

We don't all have to agree, but we should all agree to "play nicely together". That's my non-PC two cents worth anyway.

 

I agree. It's not like Vaudeville was being an ass with one word, but funny and kind with the other. He delivered both with he same intent - to insult.

If certain people want to pretend he was just joking and laughing, then that's on them.

 

Well I understand now that Texas is considered the South so could be why you don't mind when people call you that. I am not from the South, and when I was called it, I was just visiting the U.S at the time, staying with friends in Chicago on the South Side. They were upset/embarrassed and broke it down for me what it meant. (It was just screamed out from a passing car)

I think though, Chris Rock cleared it up for me in 23 secs even though I'm not Southern...

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I get it now..cracker is a joke word to you, so have at it...:smt023

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I hear you but this is one of the reasons blacks and whites have such a hard time getting along. I know you were being sincere but I'm sorry most white people in my opinion wouldn't flinch at the word cracker. Like I said it's some sad little insult black people say to them. It doesn't carry any weight. Kind of why you won't see whites playfully saying coon or spook. That's my litmus test for racial insults. No one can playfully say chink or wetback or redskin but cracker and honky are ok. So what should one conclude.

 

I second this!!!

 

When did you get to this country?

 

Fair enough but like I said before if tv is a litmus test for social norms I would imagine cracker bothers few white people but I could be wrong.

 

I actually disagree.....(to a point)

....what we see TV is far more conservative than we see in real life. So while it may not be the "norm" its far more inflexible than real life.