and what you do beside tap dance,negro.....i like all kinds of women, i'm just not some drooling imbecile kissing ass and making a fool of myself. they are arguing because they aren't putting things into context. the broads are mad because elin is a damn nanny and they are trying to make it seem like she is some prize, instead of a damn diaper changer. the men are like nope. so again these broads used to getting their ass kissed, get inflated egos, get nasty. so the guys are like,"ah na, hell na!"
so the broads can't take it so they get offended.

and me i was trying to have a decent conversation, :smt083, but these savages let their ego fuck up my thread. and i'm left talking to your ashy larry ass.:smt073

 

and for those wondering, i don't do hate filled threads. i spark conversations, unlike others i don't talk shit, i conduct myself like an adult. not my fault others can't conduct themselves the same way.

 

i'm not saying image doesn't play a part, but i disagree with those who want to deinegrate their accomplishments to luck.

 

The "broads?" Have a problem getting laid, dear? I might have some understanding of why...

 

broads=women......nothing offensive about that....there were two groups of ppl arguing: dudes and the broads(men and the women). simple.
trouble getting laid? my girlfriend would beg to differ.....:smt057

 

Haha, you all really took the word "luck" and ran with it. Talk about selective reading.

 

A. I don't believe one person claimed that Tiger's success is a fluke. We all KNOW that he worked his ass off to get where he is today. No one is disputing that.

B. Clooney isn't really endorsing any products, is he?

C. We have to bring examples of others to prove our point.

D. I don't believe she got 20% JUST for having his kids. He was also buying her silence. She's not allowed to speak publicly about anything regarding their marriage, his cheating or their divorce now until SHE DIES. If she does, she has to give him everything back. As he also bought a few of his mistresses' silence by paying them some money, too.

E. Unfair and not true. I think entertainers and sports stars (whilst they do provide a service) are grossly overpaid. I think that every person playing a major sport should get paid the same amount every year - say $500K as an example. Then when their season is over, if they've hit their goals as a player, they can get the millions of dollars as a bonus. They shouldn't receive millions before they've proven themselves. Actors/Actresses should be the same. If they make a good movie that makes the company millions, THEN they can get a bonus.

 

Sellout Rhetoric + Equating unapologetic attraction with subservience.

Used to getting their ass kissed? Certainly not on this forum...but we all know White women come with pedestals attached to their feet. Thankfully, "conscious" brothers like yourself are here to knock them off it.

At 21 years young, Elin, the daughter of a government official and journalist, gets a job nannying for a woman she befriended, yet from the discussion in this thread you would think this was her career.

She was under the employ of a pro golfer, and her previous station was no more or less than that of other wives of professional athletes. No doubt, if Tiger married a Black woman, and cheated on her with scores of trashy White women, you would be singing a different tune.

 

So who now gets the money coming from paying customers that previously went to the athletes?

 

Well I played sports growing up and my little brother is a pro athlete and I still don't buy luck. They really aren't that good if they need to rely on luck. I will give a little on team sports since much of how well you perform is based on other people but in individual sports like boxing, track and field, mma, golf I'm sorry no one is that consistantly lucky. Especially in the case of someone like Tiger who at one point completely dominated the sport much like Tyson. He wasn't knocking dudes out because they slipped and fell into his glove fight after fight he was just a superior athlete.

So would you apply lady luck to other professions. What about the doctor who did well academically but did bad on the MCATs because of a little bad luck and ended up at a lesser medical school. Would you base their entire career on that or how well they did their job after that?
Where does luck begin and individual talent and hard work come in?
Its like me telling you everything in your life that you worked for was a matter of luck. It had nothing to do with how hard you worked.
And if you want to argue the luck angle thats in the realm of destiny and higher powers, so by that logic Tiger was MEANT to be where he was. Right?

 

trust me when i tell you that everytime...lebron or kobe get an endorsement...tracy mcgrady is sitting back calling them lucky bastards...along with a host of very talented basketball players that are not on a wheaties box...not in a nike commercial...not doing a car commercial...not sporting a new rolex...etc...

 

Educate us on what luck means. Isn't something happening by chance, outside of your control?

 

It goes to them after their season is over and their performances are assessed.

We all have to reach goals before we get our bonuses and raises. Is it really prudent to give some of these players 10 year contracts worth over $100 million when they haven't PROVEN that they will play well??

If they bring in the numbers, they get their money at the end of each season.

It's a win-win situation: athletes would actually have to play hard to get all of their money owed them and it will keep the cost of tickets down for games so that more fans/families can enjoy them without taking out bank loans.

:smt023

 

So the money is ONLY given if they meet performance requirements. And if they dont? I supposed fat cat owner is justified in your eyes to have a moral right to the money.(So long as he doesnt give it to any 'undeserving' young men)

See this is the problem I have with your WHOLE premise....

Its not your money.

How you get bonuses at your place of employment does not dictate the payroll practices of another business. The only person with a right to determine what an employee is paid is the person writing the check. As an adult old enough to die for his country, A young man has every right to accept what his employer feels he is worth to his business. He isnt subject to the whim of an outside individual who doesnt feel he earns his money.

 

A. Check the posts sweetheart. Many of the women argue that he was lucky. The over all theme is he didn't deserve his money since other professions are under valued.

B. Clooney may not endorse products but no one gripes about the 20 mill he makes for each movie and realistically all the man does is play pretend but women love him so its deserved I guess.

C. Why do you need other examples when we're talking about Tiger?

D. You're right I wont argue this but keep in mind this would have killed all debate of your sisters of the femnist revolution would have lead with this instead of trying to argue having kids is worth 20% of mans wealth. That's how the debate started and was perpetuated.

 

I never left you a neg rep.

 

Id also like someone to break down for me the hierarchy of deserved pay in a particular business. Lets say professional basketball.

The constant in all of this is the money coming in via payed stadium seats and TV viewership. So the money is there whether we want it to be or not. The only complaint ive heard is regarding the young men who actually play the sport. The talent.

Someone fill me in why theres no outrage over the team ownership or TV networks making a wealthy living?

 

A. Luck is involved in many cases as far as who gets to the pros and who doesn't. For every actor/actress in Hollywood who makes it, there are tens of thousands who don't. For every athlete that makes it to the pros, there are tens of thousands of equally talented athletes who end up teaching at a sports arena or coaching little league. Not EVERY SINGLE PERSON with talent makes it.

B. My movie ticket sales keep going up because they have to pay these actors exorbitant amounts of money just to say lines in a movie. Yes, I have a hard time with any actor making $20 million for a movie. That's insane.

C. Because Tiger is one of many athletes that have had personal problems spill into their professional careers. It's only natural to give more examples.

D. I posted a link to an article that everyone ignored several pages back that basically said: Tiger is no fool and he got a lot for his money in the divorce.

 

bwhahahhaha this is the dumbest shit I've heard. Its just not logical or realistic. Like MrF mentioned earlier, alot of you females just dont understand supply & demand.