No Luck in Miami.

[Cloudkicker]

What the fuck are you guys talking about? I don't speak Spanish and I know very few people who do and we all do fine in Miami.
Hell we frequently travel to Central America and do just as fine there without a lick of Spanish.

You guys are just making excuses now.

Speaking spanish has nothing to do with dating in miami. However Central America culture and Cuban culture are two different things. Central America will welcome you, your friends and the healthy american dollars in your back pocket.

um ok...this tells me who owns what, but can anyone tell me what the women are like ? Is the area safe for different cultures / ethnicities ? Do Russian women stick to the men in their own culture and country ?

Would a guy of different ethnicity be asking for trouble dating lots of different Russian women ?

Being Fit/Muscular and earning a six figure income is the easy part for me I want to know the mindset of the area and the experiences people have had with the women.

A lot of Russian women here are on school visas and work visas. Depends on what kind of Russian girl your going after...some are from the capital and some are from the country side. From what I notice they are quiet by day and crazy at night lol. Russia's night scene from what I heard towers that of Miami. You'll be surprise how intellectual they are. DO not use her looks to gauge her brain as i've seen Russian girls who dress in very provocative clothing who are doctors, engineers, or journalists from their country and are modest about it. You best way to go Russian is start learning basic language and be FUNNY. From the Russian girls I knew they told me looks is very important to them as you will rarely find "healthy" girls and they many of them look like models. I think there are small clubs or hang outs more in the north miami beach area.

Cultural bias is big here. Like someone said earlier, most Hispanic women here are only looking for Hispanic or Whites. Same thing with the White chicks here. Most are looking for Whites or Hispanics...even a great deal of Black women here don't want to deal with Black men here.

damn son, now i know your game is garbage

at first I thought that when I seen the shirt you got on..but now i know this for fact

:smt095

Are you even from Miami. Let me rephrase that, do you know what site your on? Majority of the men here are not the typical black male that you and your friends maybe. I hate to say it but im not predictable and its sad that I can walk into a mall and look at a black person and know 75% of their personality by looking at them and the other 15% just act that way to avoid obscurity from their own race. 10% just act the way they feel and are clumped with being white or sellouts.

You have two types of black women in Miami.

They like black men (stereotypical)
They like white men (very few)

The reason why black women are in the highest percentile in being single then any race and why many black men date outside their race.

In Cali, Texas, Seattle, and NY its different...but Miami is like prison - you either with us or your not. Fact is fact. The whole city is quarantine into color and wealth. and when your in prison you dont want to be a loaner so most black women follow other black women. The style, the talk and so do a lot of black men.

Shizzle and I growup without be trapped in the stereotype game. So going to WetWilles listening to music we dont listen to and having women coming on to black men who are not what they appear to be is just a setup. Real Talk? How about realistic. I know the cards Im dealt and I deal with it by knowing what cards I got.

 

[Cloudkicker]

I wasn't mocking the op I'm just saying in general you have to fight for what you want. Climb that ladder as far as you can go until its time to make your own ladder. I just recently found out about how deeply racist most hispanics are so I hear you but then my suggestion would be to move to Tampa way more racially friendly and hw there do date bm. I know from personal experience. Its our obligations to be the absolute best we can be before going out there to date. We as bm know the deal. The bar is higher for us period so either rise to the occassion or fall to the ground. Its not fair but who ever said people were fair.

I agree.. the Peacock with the pretties feathers gets the ass. Going to the gym and getting a better jobs helps A lot. One of the posters said they hate it when people say that..but Maslow says other wise. Thing is Miami does have a little dirty secret and its speaking Spanish. Does that has anything to do with dating. no it doesn't...but EVERY JOB, decent job in miami requires you to be Bilingual keeping blacks and whites and the bottom of the ladder..

When I lived in an area with more white people: Central Florida. Management jobs were knocking at my door step and only because im a diligent worker and took pride in what i did. I've work in Miami for 6 years now..and even though many people ask if I am a manager simply by the way I resolve problems and worked..it is only customers who view me in a managerial manner so yeah its a race thing.

Regards to moving...its not always that easy. But its not only the reason Fhoshizzle wants to move.

The price of a decent house to rent is 1300 a month plus add another 300-500 a month in bills. Car note phone bill. You have to make at least 2gs a month to life on the edge.

An apartment in area were you can leave your GPS on your windshield 800-1200 a month. Thats 1 bedroom..meh maybe 2 bedroom.

Jobs are usually starting at 8 dollars and hour and cap at 11-12hr
Add on the fact that most people in Miami are assholes just because the next guy is and a weak night life...yes I sad weak.

 

[pettyofficerj]

Jobs are usually starting at 8 dollars and hour and cap at 11-12hr
Add on the fact that most people in Miami are assholes just because the next guy is and a weak night life...yes I sad weak.

coming from philly, everyone that I know that's been to Miami says the people are actually friendlier

maybe you should try coming up north for a while, to see how nasty people really can be

 

[Cloudkicker]

I dont know man..we are usually in the top 10 cities in for the worst or most dangerous city in the U.S.A.

 

[The Dark King]

coming from philly, everyone that I know that's been to Miami says the people are actually friendlier

maybe you should try coming up north for a while, to see how nasty people really can be

I thought the same thing. Come to NY and let these broads know you're not making 6 figures and see how quickly you get dismissed well unless you're a cop or a firefighter they get a pass. I almost fell out of my chair when he said 2000gs a month living expenses are high. I wish my cost of living was that cheap

 

[jaisee]

animal131, I'm not going to go through all 21 of your posts to this thread and reply point by point.

I'll just put it like this. If you want to meet people, you will.... if you want to sit around and complain about how bad it is, well... enjoy.

I actually agree on 'some' points made, yes a lot of the latinos here prefer other latinos or whites. There are people hooking up plenty. One of my best friends always has latin girls hanging on him, and I'm doing quite alright with white women.

Maybe it is like you said where those of us with jobs are looking at you unemployed folk and thinking to ourselves "get a job, hobo". Or maybe people just pick up on your pathetic 'woe is me, nobody wanna date me, what is I'm gon' do' desperation vibe.

 

[The Dark King]

animal131, I'm not going to go through all 21 of your posts to this thread and reply point by point.

I'll just put it like this. If you want to meet people, you will.... if you want to sit around and complain about how bad it is, well... enjoy.

I actually agree on 'some' points made, yes a lot of the latinos here prefer other latinos or whites. There are people hooking up plenty. One of my best friends always has latin girls hanging on him, and I'm doing quite alright with white women.

Maybe it is like you said where those of us with jobs are looking at you unemployed folk and thinking to ourselves "get a job, hobo". Or maybe people just pick up on your pathetic 'woe is me, nobody wanna date me, what is I'm gon' do' desperation vibe.

It's probably the former. It's easy to dismiss what's difficult for others especially if it's easy for you. My boy who just started dated interracially who's admittedly better looking than me has a much harder time with it. All think in my head is your 6'2 and in much better shape this should be as easy as taking off your pants for you but when I think about it I went to private school my entire life I dated ww so it's what I'm used to it's as natural as breathing. He even pointed out my talking points are much more "white" friendly which I have to be honest is probably true. If all of sudden moved to a place which was mostly Asian shit even mostly black I'd be home addicted to Internet porn for the rest of my days most likely or until the pain of lonliness forced me to change up and end up with some lesser chick. I'm sure it wasn't your intention to come off the way that you did but keep in mind not everyone is not the international panty dropper Jaisee. Some dudes have it tough with girls.

 

[velkrum]

A lot of Russian women here are on school visas and work visas. Depends on what kind of Russian girl your going after...some are from the capital and some are from the country side. From what I notice they are quiet by day and crazy at night lol. Russia's night scene from what I heard towers that of Miami. You'll be surprise how intellectual they are. DO not use her looks to gauge her brain as i've seen Russian girls who dress in very provocative clothing who are doctors, engineers, or journalists from their country and are modest about it. You best way to go Russian is start learning basic language and be FUNNY. From the Russian girls I knew they told me looks is very important to them as you will rarely find "healthy" girls and they many of them look like models. I think there are small clubs or hang outs more in the north miami beach area.

Awesome :smt023

I think I'm going to be very happy with the Russians over there. I get along well with smart, attractive, foreign women.

Hopefully i can find a fit Russian that matches my description of hot !!

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[Cloudkicker]

animal131, I'm not going to go through all 21 of your posts to this thread and reply point by point.

I'll just put it like this. If you want to meet people, you will.... if you want to sit around and complain about how bad it is, well... enjoy.

I actually agree on 'some' points made, yes a lot of the latinos here prefer other latinos or whites. There are people hooking up plenty. One of my best friends always has latin girls hanging on him, and I'm doing quite alright with white women.

Maybe it is like you said where those of us with jobs are looking at you unemployed folk and thinking to ourselves "get a job, hobo". Or maybe people just pick up on your pathetic 'woe is me, nobody wanna date me, what is I'm gon' do' desperation vibe.

21 post? um ok... lol anyway you sound like the typical extrovert attacking the introvert. I cant speak for anyone else, but were not very social-able, we don't like to go to clubs or bars, and we hate large groups..we are thinkers and calculating and take criticism not to well. God made me this way...but lucky I am aware what I am and dated some very nice women.

You wanna call us pathetic go ahead...but what you call game is simply a rehash of the same crap I've seen in club after club. Like a mold from a factory. To be honest sounds like your slim pickings are from clubs and bars...sorry dont have the time or taking advantage of women by saving baby seals or feeding the kids, nah sorry. I'll be my self..talk to me when your picking up women in a library or at the grocery store. I can sit in a bar with my dreads all day and have women come to me..but I dont put on shows:smt023

 

[Cloudkicker]

I'm sure it wasn't your intention to come off the way that you did but keep in mind not everyone is not the international panty dropper Jaisee. Some dudes have it tough with girls.

LOL...he might be the guy that all they do is work 8 hours eat and go on the prowl every weekend...maybe im wrong. Jaisee lives in Ft lauderdale..I live in Miami...they are two different animals.

 

[jaisee]

21 post? um ok... lol anyway you sound like the typical extrovert attacking the introvert. I cant speak for anyone else, but were not very social-able, we don't like to go to clubs or bars, and we hate large groups..we are thinkers and calculating and take criticism not to well. God made me this way...but lucky I am aware what I am and dated some very nice women.

You wanna call us pathetic go ahead...but what you call game is simply a rehash of the same crap I've seen in club after club. Like a mold from a factory. To be honest sounds like your slim pickings are from clubs and bars...sorry dont have the time or taking advantage of women by saving baby seals or feeding the kids, nah sorry. I'll be my self..talk to me when your picking up women in a library or at the grocery store. I can sit in a bar with my dreads all day and have women come to me..but I dont put on shows:smt023

I hate clubs, you'll rarely ever find me at clubs. The last time I was at a club, a woman approached me and said "Stop looking so mean", I was just so uncomfortable being there. The occasional bar, maybe... but never clubs. I'm just as much the introvert as you, maybe even more so. In fact, I went to a Stephen Marley concert at the Culture Room in Fort Lauderdale a few weeks back. My friends were there, but I chose to watch it alone. I interacted with a white girl, 2 Asian girls, and exchanged numbers with a black girl. Even introverts can introduce themselves to a woman. Believe it or not, not every woman is looking for a man who feels he must be the center of attention.

From my observation, the problem has less to do with being introverted and a hell of a lot more with being either shy, afraid, having a defeatist attitude or all of the above.

 

[jaisee]

LOL...he might be the guy that all they do is work 8 hours eat and go on the prowl every weekend...maybe im wrong. Jaisee lives in Ft lauderdale..I live in Miami...they are two different animals.

They are different, but what... 20 - 30 miles apart? Most of the 'stuff' that I do is in Miami, there's not a whole lot going on in Fort Lauderdale.

 

[Cloudkicker]

From my observation, the problem has less to do with being introverted and a hell of a lot more with being either shy, afraid, having a defeatist attitude or all of the above.

No the problem is the area...you seem to keep telling me what is what. I lived here for years. SW miami... (Kendall, Cutler, Homestead Pinecrest) These area are not interracial friendly. Miami Gardens, Doral, Hialeah again not interracial friendly. If your white or spanish its 10000% easier.

 

[jaisee]

It's probably the former. It's easy to dismiss what's difficult for others especially if it's easy for you. My boy who just started dated interracially who's admittedly better looking than me has a much harder time with it. All think in my head is your 6'2 and in much better shape this should be as easy as taking off your pants for you but when I think about it I went to private school my entire life I dated ww so it's what I'm used to it's as natural as breathing. He even pointed out my talking points are much more "white" friendly which I have to be honest is probably true. If all of sudden moved to a place which was mostly Asian shit even mostly black I'd be home addicted to Internet porn for the rest of my days most likely or until the pain of lonliness forced me to change up and end up with some lesser chick. I'm sure it wasn't your intention to come off the way that you did but keep in mind not everyone is not the international panty dropper Jaisee. Some dudes have it tough with girls.

Honestly, it's not easy for me at all. I share the same frustrations as the other 95% of the males in the world who do not fit what you see in the woman's dream male threads on these boards. I think too many women waste their time with looks and not substance in a man, only to turn around and say that all men are dogs and cheaters or whatever it is that they are whining about these days. Trust me, I do not have an easy time with women at all.... admittedly a much more difficult time with American women than non-Americans.

"International Panty Dropper" I like that!! lol

 

[jaisee]

No the problem is the area...you seem to keep telling me what is what. I lived here for years. SW miami... (Kendall, Cutler, Homestead Pinecrest) These area are not interracial friendly. Miami Gardens, Doral, Hialeah again not interracial friendly. If your white or spanish its 10000% easier.

Is the problem the area or that you're an introvert? You can point at every variable in existence as the 'problem' but all people will hear is excuses.

 

[jaisee]

Seriously, and I don't mean this to be mean or anything... ask the women on this board (women who are here because they date IR) how attractive the sob story is. Very few women will date you because they feel sorry for your misfortunes in dating.

 

[Cloudkicker]

Is the problem the area or that you're an introvert? You can point at every variable in existence as the 'problem' but all people will hear is excuses.

if you want to take facts and see it as excuses...you can see it as you want to see it. Im a realist...I know the cards im dealt and I work with it. I don't doubt that im shy...but I know how to work around that. Miami is very segregated and racism is VERY quiet here.

Seriously, and I don't mean this to be mean or anything... ask the women on this board (women who are here because they date IR) how attractive the sob story is. Very few women will date you because they feel sorry for your misfortunes in dating.

On the contrary...even though im new....I read A lot of post were women are afraid to approach black guys...shit most will not say anything leaving us completely obvious. There might be places were majority of black guys dont date WW..I dont know.Black women probably have it the hardest down here..unless the guy just wants to pump and dump. You seem to be clueless to Miami culture.. the whole reason this site is here is because IR dating IS NOT EASY! Arent you a moderator? Have you been not paying attention?

Women hardly argue about black and white in this forum and every other forum..They are here to have fun and look at chocolate cake all day. Its the men who fuel the discussions about women this and BM/WM that.
The OP made a HONEST and TRUE post and the only thing your doing is smashing balls. Your the only person in this thread who believes Miami is a walk in the park...everyone else has stated other wise..Its expensive, overrated, and superficial..but its my home and if all I have is honey and flour to make a chocolate cake..damnit it going to be the best damn chocolate cake I can make. Until I leave

 

[The Dark King]

Seriously, and I don't mean this to be mean or anything... ask the women on this board (women who are here because they date IR) how attractive the sob story is. Very few women will date you because they feel sorry for your misfortunes in dating.

Women on this site don't count not to mention many put on a front like they aren't like most women because no one wants to be the shallow bitch.
Bottom line is you can't go wrong with a six pack and a fat bank account. Forget what you were taught about love it's a fantasy. People for the most part don't work that way. Be kind and courteous and treat others as you want to be treated but recognize this shit for what it is. We all want to be happy so start with self and know that everyone is temporary so there's no need to stress it

 

[The Dark King]

if you want to take facts and see it as excuses...you can see it as you want to see it. Im a realist...I know the cards im dealt and I work with it. I don't doubt that im shy...but I know how to work around that. Miami is very segregated and racism is VERY quiet here.



On the contrary...even though im new....I read A lot of post were women are afraid to approach black guys...shit most will not say anything leaving us completely obvious. Black women probably have it the hardest down here..unless the guy just wants to pump and dump. You seem to be clueless to Miami culture.

Then just give up and stop dating. You're apparently too weak to do it. Or do what everyone else has to do and just focus on you until someone you want to date comes along. The best way to meet people is to give of yourself volunteer or become a big brother but quit whining

 

[jaisee]

if you want to take facts and see it as excuses...you can see it as you want to see it. Im a realist...I know the cards im dealt and I work with it. I don't doubt that im shy...but I know how to work around that. Miami is very segregated and racism is VERY quiet here.

My experience is different, it just seems that black people don't have the interest in doing the things that give you an opportunity to intermingle with other races and cultures. For example, you shot down every idea that I posted for things to do to meet people. At each, you'd have an opportunity to meet other people. You mentioned what, a library? Grocery store? Ok, that's.... that's something... I guess. I mean, I guess 2 or 3 people still go to the library. In my experience, a lot of the segregation is self-imposed. For example, I surf... I cannot tell you how many black people say stupid shit like "black people don't swim" "black people don't surf" and how many male and female white people I've become close to through it.

I dated a French girl who lived on Biscayne, not too far from American Airlines. During the time that I dated her, I was introduced to a lot of the local French population. I cannot tell you how many times she would say to me "Hey Rasta Rocket, soandso wants to know if you have a friend for them".

I was on South Beach with my ex who was Romanian. While there, a Russian girl was being OVERLY flirtatious behind my girls back to the point where, when we she came to us as we were leaving and asked us not to leave.

As far as the hispanic women, there was a girl from Costa Rica (I think that's where she told me she was from) we flirted a bit and began to make out, she told me "I've never kissed a black man before". A few weeks later, we ran into each other at the same place and ended up kissing again, she told me "You're the second black man that I kissed, do you want to know who the first was?" I replied "No" and she told me "you" (she was probably lying).

I really don't have that much experience with latin women, I just don't really approach them that much. I have a friend (black dude) who dates latin women like there's no tomorrow though.

I don't doubt your experiences, I just think you can change them. A lot of people are afraid of rejection, shit I'm one of them. I just realize it will happen more often than not and accept that it is what it is.