Idris Elba: Black Men Not Considered “Sexy” By America

karmacoma. said:
I don't know about you but I don't need to be validated by a damn magazine cover. And if I wanted to, I could get all the ass I could handle, and then some.

That's black females playing victim because they're not as embraced by the mainstream as they think they should be. I don't play that game.
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Don't need to be validated either. Just choose not live in a fantasyland in regards to this topic.
 
Redeemed One Jr said:
If you take Lil' Wayne next to Will Smith, most women would probably go for Will Smith. Just as if you have Jason Alexander (George from Seinfeld) next to Brad Pitt, most would probably go for Brad Pitt. Now Will Smith next to Brad Pitt, most will probably go for Brad Pitt because most women, like most men, in this country have been cornfed the standard of beauty, on top of what may be one's personal preference.

I think we could truly say black men are sexy in America when we start seeing not necessarily black men, but black boys being fawned over at the same rate by fangirls who pine for Justin Beiber. When we get more of the younger crowd on magazines that don't just fit the 'Hip Hop magazine' audience, then I'll be convinced we're considered AS sexy as white males. Other than that, sure we're sexy. I think overall if put to a national vote, black male actors would not be considered sexy in comparison to white male actors. Though with the rise of interracial dating and studios taking more chances in casting in television and movies, I do think there may be more of an even playing field on the horizon.
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Excellent points. Which is why there are so few BM/WW interracial movies, etc. White women don't want to see them. And the very few movies/TV shows that do have it, it is always an "issue" or there's some type of struggle to overcome or social ostracizing.
 
i'm black, middle-class + ride the bus to work and i'm considered sexy (even in dingy tighty whities)

who cares what they think about the rest of ya'll
:smt043
 
pettyofficerj said:
hate to break it to you, but MANY white actors have done goofy/strange roles. It's called versatility and is a staple for any good career. DeNiro, Depp (Edward Scissor Hands, just to name one of the many nutty roles for that guy). The more roles you can do, the better the chances of you reaching into multiple demographics.

p.s.- im surprised no WW jumped on you for the 'get old, go for bm' line

:p
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LOL, Hey we can be honest on this forum I would hope, just like there are black men that are truly longing for a sista despite being with a white woman, there are those white women that who once they get older do sometimes gravitate to black men.

Mind you these are women who maybe because of personal uncertainty, overly concerned with perceptions of themselves by friends and family and their wider community just don't have the ability to follow their heart at an earlier point in life.

How is it they may all of a sudden figure hey I like a black man in middle age. Think about that ;)

I often found that very odd.
 
karmacoma. said:
LOL most black mfers want to live in a rap video 24/7 but *this* is what guys want to get real about?

SMDH
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Not really sure how relevant rap video is. The only "real" part to accept is that the overwhelming majority of white women do not find black men attractive or are interested in them as marriage partners...unless their famous, and athlete, etc.

Not all....but most. Sorry.
 
quato102 said:
Excellent points. Which is why there are so few BM/WW interracial movies, etc. White women don't want to see them. And the very few movies/TV shows that do have it, it is always an "issue" or there's some type of struggle to overcome or social ostracizing.
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Thanks, Davina and Rae for listing them so I didn't have to. LOL. I was about to say there are MANY BM/WW movies. There were tons of them before they ever thought of making movies with a black woman and white man.

I know it seems like BW/WM films outnumber the others but they don't at all. It's just lately you see an influx of BW/WM because it seems to be a popular pairing now in society but there's always been more BM/WW films.

Best Wishes!
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http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/479321-movies-with-bm-ww-or-bw-am
 
GQ Brotha said:
LOL, Hey we can be honest on this forum I would hope, just like there are black men that are truly longing for a sista despite being with a white woman, there are those white women that who once they get older do sometimes gravitate to black men.

Mind you these are women who maybe because of personal uncertainty, overly concerned with perceptions of themselves by friends and family and their wider community just don't have the ability to follow their heart at an earlier point in life.

How is it they may all of a sudden figure hey I like a black man in middle age. Think about that ;)

I often found that very odd.
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i've taken that stance on a variety of occasions as well. i'm just surprised that you would do that. It's a hard road to travel after this point, youngin'

fact remains that sociological literature as well as common knowledge posit that as WW get older (generally speaking), they're more likely to explore other unpopular options within their communities, partially because they've established a life for themselves separate from outside influences. It's a sad reality if you're really hellbent on only dating ww, but that's how it is.

Not to say that young ww aren't free enough to date bm tho. I've had my share and refuse to buy this 'bm arent sexy' trash after the experiences i've had.
 
GQ Brotha said:
LOL, Hey we can be honest on this forum I would hope, just like there are black men that are truly longing for a sista despite being with a white woman, there are those white women that who once they get older do sometimes gravitate to black men.

Mind you these are women who maybe because of personal uncertainty, overly concerned with perceptions of themselves by friends and family and their wider community just don't have the ability to follow their heart at an earlier point in life.

How is it they may all of a sudden figure hey I like a black man in middle age. Think about that ;)

I often found that very odd.
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Not really odd at all. As they get older, white men become less interested. So therefore they become more open to wider dating spectrum. Plus, they are reinforced by the notion that black men will take any type of white woman. This is seen by the consistent talk/appreciation by black men of "thick" women, women with "meat on their bones", women with some "junk in the trunk", etc... all this translates to, in American culture, is FAT.
 
quato102 said:
Not really odd at all. As they get older, white men become less interested. So therefore they become more open to wider dating spectrum. Plus, they are reinforced by the notion that black men will take any type of white woman. This is seen by the consistent talk/appreciation by black men of "thick" women, women with "meat on their bones", women with some "junk in the trunk", etc... all this translates to, in American culture, is FAT.
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You better hope Dreaming Blue doesn't see this.
 
quato102 said:
Not really odd at all. As they get older, white men become less interested. So therefore they become more open to wider dating spectrum. Plus, they are reinforced by the notion that black men will take any type of white woman. This is seen by the consistent talk/appreciation by black men of "thick" women, women with "meat on their bones", women with some "junk in the trunk", etc... all this translates to, in American culture, is FAT.
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you guys are really taking the ball and running with it now :smt043

kiss your pussy stock goodbye

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quato102 said:
Not really sure how relevant rap video is. The only "real" part to accept is that the overwhelming majority of white women do not find black men attractive or are interested in them as marriage partners...unless their famous, and athlete, etc.

Not all....but most. Sorry.
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Who is arguing with you, why should or would they be.

Do the majority of Asian women not marry Asian men, do the majority of Latina women, not marry Latina men, do the majority of black men not marry black women, etc, etc.

Its called culture.

Why would the majority of white women be attracted to black men, the majority of black men are not attracted to white women.

We aren't some divine being that the world revolves around.

Its a two fold equation. Not every black men, heck not most are trying to be with a white woman. Either you are attracted to them or you are not.
 
Sin Mari said:
I love Idris, but he's wrong.
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I'm with you, Sin. I have always thought of BM as beautiful & sexy, & I know there are other WW (& other non-black women) who feel the same way.

icekid20 said:
You can say that he is wrong but what attracts none black women to black men is rap music culture, style, and athletics. Take those things away and very few none black women would like us. You have to understand that black characteristics were thought to be ugly originally.

Big lips, nappy hair, dark skin, hate if you want but what changed some peoples mind about us was our style,culture and athleticism, not our physical features. There is a reason black people are always claiming to be "mixed" and never claiming just to be black, bleaching their skin and shit. They don't think being black is "exotic" or beautiful enough.

you ever heard the term

"everybody wanna be a nigga, but don't nobody wanna be a nigga"

It means they love our style but nobody actually wants to be us. The style is what made them like us though.

All i'm gonna say is there is a reason why you usually see black men with unattractive white women. If we were so damn attractive you would think more attractive white women would go for brothas but they don't.

How many country music lovin women, punk rock or hard rock loving, classical, sports hating, rap and R N B hating none black women you see with black men? NONE because they don't care about our style and culture.

When brotha Idris says "America" hes talking about white women. If you think your average good looking white women actually finds black men attractive you are living in a delusional America. Beautiful White women overwhelmingly prefer and are only attracted to white men. The ones that we do get it's usually has to do with them loving our style and culture. Only time this isn't the case is when a woman is so unattractive she doesn't care about culture because she has a hard time finding a man OR gold diggers only dating these NBA and NFL players for their money.

This is why so many wealthy black men date white women. Once they make it big they can finally afford to buy their trophy white women who otherwise would never go near a black man.

Now our women, black women, finds us very attractive. Our actual physical characteristics that is.
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Another troll-ass fool who doesn't know what he/she is talking about. Go the hell away...it'll save the mods the hassle of having to ban your ass.


The Dark Knight said:
Where are the troll hunters when you need them. Enjoy your stay I trust it'll be short :-)
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Amen.

Tarshi said:
watching
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Get him, Tarshi!

TreePixie said:
Slightly off topic but yuck. None of those guys do it for me. I like white men *and* black men, but those guys are just...yuck.

Brad Pitt always looks like he needs a shower.
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I agree, Pixie...those guys do nothing for me either.
 
quato102 said:
The very fact that a readable list can be compiled proves the point. Wonder how long the list for WM/WW romance movies would be?

In the history of cinema, even currently, there number is very low in proportion to the output.
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I don't think that's all of them to begin with. There are plenty of movies that have interracial elements within them. Also, does it really matter what the exact number is? I would say the number is satisfactory, it isn't small or almost non-existent ever since the first movie was published.
 
GQ Brotha said:
Who is arguing with you, why should or would they be.

Do the majority of Asian women not marry Asian men, do the majority of Latina women, not marry Latina men, do the majority of black men not marry black women, etc, etc.

Its called culture.

Why would the majority of white women be attracted to black men, the majority of black men are not attracted to white women.

We aren't some divine being that the world revolves around.

Its a two fold equation. Not every black men, heck not most are trying to be with a white woman. Either you are attracted to them or you are not.
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You're wasting your typing fingers. Some people love to wallow in the victim mentality.
 
karmacoma. said:
You're wasting your typing fingers. Some people love to wallow in the victim mentality.
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Not wallowing in the victim mentality at all. Have dated WW many times and am currently in a relationship with a WW. It is humorous how a simple assertion of reality, is perceived to be a victim mentality, as if "getting" white women is the holy grail for black men and that any acknowledgment of that makes someone a "victim"...as if something has been taken from them...what would that something be? White women?
 
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