How do I get a white woman?

[QMark]

You didn't do anything wrong. It was an experience and while a crappy one hopefully you don't regret it because you learn from every experience.

Looks are a factor in dating...its your personality that determine if its a big factor or little one. That is why everyone is asking for a picture. Its a gauge to what were working with lol. I think this is the place to open-up so that you can be more successful. I dont think anyone is here to hurt you. not that I think :smt085



If your up to it... go to a strip club every 2 weeks or month and if your worried about being notice go to one out of town and no not to look at tits. This is a place were women will come to you. Dont bother falling in love or blowing your paycheck...you need a maximum of 20 dollars (hey better than blowing it on a PUA or crappy date). Why a strip club? You don't need to be embarrass cause everyone is there to see the same thing. You will be interacting with pretty women and that fear will wear-off. Once you start talking to naked women...women with cloth on should be a breeze

You grew up not being socially interactive so you have to start changing and develop your social skills. Talk to women as you do guys..the only difference is women have different interest than guys. Start honing your social skills at work and school. Just smile and make eye contact, smell good. "TRUST ME SMELL GOOD"

Wash your clothes with Tide and have a minimum of 3 good colognes

Say Hello or good bye to every one you interact with

Never wear a watch..ask for the time from strangers from guys and girls.

Ask about homework from classmates.

Have nice shoes..doesn't matter if you like sneakers, boots, flip-flops it is your foundation and women will look at it.. keep laces clean and so on.

Dont ask for her number ask for her email as it gives you time to think and respond.

As far as picking up women in public as a social stigma, forget about it. I remember in my psychology class 5 smoking hot students were asked to stand up in from of the class. They were all asked a series of questions. The question basically were geared to dating and out of 4 they said men never ask them out because they were too pretty and they feared rejection or thought they were with someone already. Women like to know they are good earth magnets to guys and girls so talk to them.



Yeah...any info about you at work is deadly.



As far as standards and above average...Always seek for the above average no doubt..but in the same retrospect why play a game on max difficulty. Try the game on the novice level as you say your experience is very minimal..then I will go up a few notches. Thats solely my opinion. I never said go below your average or someone you dont like. Next thing you know your with a nine and your self esteem will be put to test.



What state are you in or city if you dont mind?

Funny at my job everyone thinks me being single is awesome. But thank god you dont date anyone at work as your sexual life, what you do and dont do would spread like wildfire. Best thing to say is im too busy to find a woman..or your focusing on school.



You have to find your own thing...but you need to really observe whats going on and copy what suits your personality.

Yeah I do regret the experience, but yes I did learn.

I get your point aboot looks being a factor, but I aint postin no pic online. I don't know yall.

I did think about going to strip clubs for just the reasons you mentioned, but unfortunately in my state, you can't drink at strip clubs which is kind of a deal breaker for me.

Ok, now you're making assumptions about me man. And they're wrong. I did not grow up socially interactive. I had friends, I went out, I talked to others. And as an adult, I've traveled the world and met tons of ppl from all over. So I was and am socially interactive. I have social skills. That does make it challenging that women have different interests, and I've definitely noticed that.

I either do or have done most of the things you listed. I'm in Seattle.

 

[QMark]

I'm sensing another Mikey here.

OMG, you're so funny, aha aha

 

[FG]

Great responses.. but nobody touched on something that stood out to me. Maybe your lack of success has more to do with your fear of perceived gossip and ridicule.

I cant tell you 100% that it does not happen nearly as much as you think.

It may be prevalent in high-school - but people your age? Nah, and the few that would do that at your age make a bigger spectacle of themselves than they do you.

If you let that hold you back, you really are shooting yourself in the foot before the get-go.
I can guarantee you that other people in general don't care or even recall stuff like that. You are in your late 20s, the vast majority of people have gotten over that behavior (gossiping and ridiculing) a long time ago.

Don't you think they have other stuff to worry about than who you approach and how and how it went?

Seriously. You need to get over that. Stat. I honestly think that, right there is your biggest problem.

Good luck to you hun.

 

[Cloudkicker]

I did think about going to strip clubs for just the reasons you mentioned, but unfortunately in my state, you can't drink at strip clubs which is kind of a deal breaker for me.

WTF:?

Ok, now you're making assumptions about me man. And they're wrong. I did not grow up socially interactive. I had friends, I went out, I talked to others. And as an adult, I've traveled the world and met tons of ppl from all over. So I was and am socially interactive. I have social skills.

assumptions?

"It's actually been a few years since I've tried to talk to a woman in terms of anything past casual conversation. "

"The reason I did that in high school and in my first years on my own is because I'm not too good at approaching a stranger that I don't know in public and trying to get their number."

"So I'd mostly talk the girls I knew from work or school, because I knew them and had an excuse to talk to them."

"In the past when I would get rejected, ppl at work or school would ridicule me and gossip about me. I don't even chase after women anymore because I don't wanna be talked about and I don't want to be "that guy".

Then you need to stop crying wolf...because according to every thing you wrote you clam up around women and your scared to talk to them..your social skills suck to a point that every one is laughing at you. So good luck on your endeavor

 

[QMark]

assumptions?

"It's actually been a few years since I've tried to talk to a woman in terms of anything past casual conversation. "

"The reason I did that in high school and in my first years on my own is because I'm not too good at approaching a stranger that I don't know in public and trying to get their number."

"So I'd mostly talk the girls I knew from work or school, because I knew them and had an excuse to talk to them."

"In the past when I would get rejected, ppl at work or school would ridicule me and gossip about me. I don't even chase after women anymore because I don't wanna be talked about and I don't want to be "that guy".

Then you need to stop crying wolf...because according to every thing you wrote you clam up around women and your scared to talk to them..your social skills suck to a point that every one is laughing at you. So good luck on your endeavor

Yes you made an assumption that I had no social interaction growing up which isn't true. Everything I've said is legit and understandable. I'm not crying wolf, I don't clam up around women, I'm not scared to talk to them, and my social skills do not suck. And you don't need to be criticizing my social skills because that's not something that should be criticized or insulted. F@ck off.

 

[QMark]

Great responses.. but nobody touched on something that stood out to me. Maybe your lack of success has more to do with your fear of perceived gossip and ridicule.

I cant tell you 100% that it does not happen nearly as much as you think.

It may be prevalent in high-school - but people your age? Nah, and the few that would do that at your age make a bigger spectacle of themselves than they do you.

If you let that hold you back, you really are shooting yourself in the foot before the get-go.
I can guarantee you that other people in general don't care or even recall stuff like that. You are in your late 20s, the vast majority of people have gotten over that behavior (gossiping and ridiculing) a long time ago.

Don't you think they have other stuff to worry about than who you approach and how and how it went?

Seriously. You need to get over that. Stat. I honestly think that, right there is your biggest problem.

Good luck to you hun.

Sound advice, thanks for your support.

 

[Cloudkicker]

Yes you made an assumption that I had no social interaction growing up which isn't true. Everything I've said is legit and understandable. I'm not crying wolf, I don't clam up around women, I'm not scared to talk to them, and my social skills do not suck. And you don't need to be criticizing my social skills because that's not something that should be criticized or insulted. F@ck off.

I made an assumption based upon the facts you laid out. This is the internet words get misconceived and buttons are pushed to get facts. I dont know your life..you decided to lay it here.

So the real you comes out... Bravo.
Thanks for playing.

 

[QMark]

I made an assumption based upon the facts you laid out. This is the internet words get misconceived and buttons are pushed to get facts. I dont know your life..you decided to lay it here.

So the real you comes out... Bravo.
Thanks for playing.

Well your assumption was wrong. That's why you shouldn't make them. I didn't lay out my life here, I laid out merely one aspect of it. You don't know nothin about the real me.

 

[Cloudkicker]

Well your assumption was wrong. That's why you shouldn't make them. I didn't lay out my life here, I laid out merely one aspect of it. You don't know nothin about the real me.

slow down grasshopper lol. Never said I knew you and trust me..i dont think i do

good luck on your quest for white women

 

[FG]

Sound advice, thanks for your support.

Well, that advice is coming from someone that do anal-lyze her own behavior a bit too much at times. And in general, we are the only ones that remember stuff like that - the rest forgot after 2 minutes. Someone may snicker or roll their eyes, but guess what, 2 minutes later its forgotten. Clearly you aren't approaching women incessantly or desperately (to get some sort of reputation) as you say you really don't approach women (in fear of gossip and ridicule). Ergo, your own fear of that is what is holding you backmore than anything.

Ever heard of the dude that won the lottery but never bought a lottery ticket?
Nah, didn't think so. Savvy??

 

[QMark]

Well, that advice is coming from someone that do anal-lyze her own behavior a bit too much at times. And in general, we are the only ones that remember stuff like that - the rest forgot after 2 minutes. Someone may snicker or roll their eyes, but guess what, 2 minutes later its forgotten. Clearly you aren't approaching women incessantly or desperately (to get some sort of reputation) as you say you really don't approach women (in fear of gossip and ridicule). Ergo, your own fear of that is what is holding you backmore than anything.

Ever heard of the dude that won the lottery but never bought a lottery ticket?
Nah, didn't think so. Savvy??

Yeah most ppl don't have the memory I have. Sometimes I think my good memory is actually a downside. I get what you're saying that you have to work for what you want. But that's actually another reason why I haven't approached women lately. Men are expected to make the first move all the time and take that chance, and women can just sit back and have the power to choose who to accept or not. Men are expected to work on their "game" with women while women can just sit back and let the guys come to them. I know it's just the way it is, but it's not fair and it's a burden to me. Plus growing up I knew you had to work to get a good job, an education, a nice car, or a nice house, but I didn't realize it would be expected for me to work to get a woman(a person) as well. The other thing is that I find the majority of women and people in general that I talk to are with someone whether it's a wife, girlfriend, FOB, or they're just getting out of a relationship. So it's quite challenging to find good, available, single, attractive women.

 

[flaminghetero]

get someone to lure them into a forest, making sure they don't bring with them white pebbles to find their way home (breadcrumbs are okay though). let them discover a cottage built of gingerbread and cakes with window panes of clear sugar. there inside you'll be waiting, posing as their candy man and trap them.

:lol:

 

[QMark]

get someone to lure them into a forest, making sure they don't bring with them white pebbles to find their way home (breadcrumbs are okay though). let them discover a cottage built of gingerbread and cakes with window panes of clear sugar. there inside you'll be waiting, posing as their candy man and trap them.

Another silly comment. Aha, huh.

 

[QMark]

slow down grasshopper lol. Never said I knew you and trust me..i dont think i do

good luck on your quest for white women

But you did say "so the real you comes out" and made a sarcastic comment about it.

 

[wtarshi]

Omg my ovaries hurt right now. Dude you gotten toughen up a little I'm not even a chick and you're turning me off. You might need to find a hobby and build some confidence first. Women smell weakness like a dog smells fear brotha.

#Oprahmoment
#realtalkakatarshi

#realtalkakatarshi

That's bloody hilarious

 

[mama]

All i can say is take a chance and ask someone out.
Oh and pay no attention to the people with smartass replies, you asked a legitimate question.

 

[goodlove]

Ok, maybe no picture.... that's cool. Here are my tips on how to get dates, but never find 'the one'.

The truth is a lot of the annoying cliche things that you hear are true. For example, 'swag'. A lot of men hear women mention Lil Wayne or 50 Cents 'swag' and try to emulate that. Swag to me means first finding yourself, second being comfortable with who you are, and finally being confident in yourself. Very cliche, I know... but hear me out. You want to attract women who are appropriate for your lifestyle. So if you project an image that is not you two things will happen. 1) You'll be exposed as fake, 2) You'll find yourself in frustrating situations with women who really are not a good match for you. The key here is confidence, people will pick up on that. Keep your head high, cause you're the shit. Have the mentality that if a woman turns you down, it's her loss not yours.

TRY not to take anything personal. Not rejection, not ridicule, nothing. If you approach a woman and she is not interested, it's merely a reflection of her own personal tastes. The common mistake that we make when rejected is to feel that we're not good enough for the other person, and then we begin to feel bad about ourselves. That is your ego at work. Don't let that happen... some people have in their mind so specific a description of the partner that they desire that they're blind to good men with good intentions, this is to their own disadvantage. As soon as you let rejection start to make you feel down about yourself, you begin to lose confidence and that is very easy to pick up on.

Paniro kinda touched on this earlier, but cast a wide net. Unless you're Irba Derba, the way dating works these days it's generally going to be an application process for men and a filtering process for women. Don't wait for the right one to come to you... that will happen either way. If you see someone that you like, approach her with confidence. Keep trying and keep trying and keep trying.... just don't take the rejection personal. If it starts to get to you and get you down, take a step back until you get your confidence back and get right back to it.

How do you approach women? Are you as stiff as a board? Are you robotic and calculated? Women are kinda like human beings too. Be flirtatious, charming, witty and funny... crack jokes (be appropriate and don't over-do it). Here's another mistake greenhorns make... be able to talk and keep up in the conversation. If you've just met someone, the last thing that you want is for them to become bored with you. You know when you talk to someone new and sometimes there's that moment of silence and you begin thinking to yourself "oh shit, I better come up with something to say".... then you say some witty shit like "So, whats your favorite color?" thinking she'll believe that you're interested in her likes and dislikes? Don't do that. Pay attention to her, if you see that she is tapping her foot to a song playing in the background, comment on that "Ok, I like your taste in music... I'm going to guess you also like <whatever>". Don't ask too many questions... it seems like you're trying too hard. "What do you do for fun?" "What's your favorite food?" "What do you do for work?" drop all of those. Keep your hands out of your pockets and don't cross your arms.... use hand gestures, but don't over-do it unless she's deaf and you're doing ASL. Uhm.... when you're ready to ask her out, don't say "Would you like to go to dinner with me?"... instead say "Cirque du Soleil is in town this week, I'd love to have your company to the show.... maybe after the show we can go back to my house and I can fingerbang you a little bit."

Oh, and don't be too complimentary... it comes across as disingenuous and also desperate. She is just as lucky to date you as you are to date her.

Most important thing. Tell pretty women they're smart, tell smart women they're pretty. Don't say anything to pretty & smart women, they've already heard it all.

Oh yeah, I don't know how many female friends you have, but make more.

cosign

I was with you until the last line. I've always felt that having female friends always hurt my game a little. I could be wrong.

having female friends are the best. I got sound advice from them and 90% of the time it worked. sometimes all you have to do is listen to what they say and watch what they do and you will pick up on some good stuff.

lastly, they are good wingmen (women) and screeners. the reason is because they can help get you in there faster than men can. think about it. You are hanging with a slew of good looking women that are nonsexual friends at a bar resteraunt and you depart from them to go at a woman. more than likely that woman will know you are with them. she is going to ask what is what is up with that. you will tell her and also take her over to the table with you to meet them and continue to shoot your shot, she will more than likely give it up. also they will be able to get you some good info about a woman that you will never know. example if you want to date a particular woman and you let her know about it, she will be able to find some info about her that you will need to have to decide if you really want to date her or not.

Jaisee, Darknight, and Stiletoes, thanks for your responses. All great points and sound advice.

everything you stated is right on point. especially the highlighted part.
when you first start out trying to campaign for women ...you are going to get shot down ....alot. dont get upset, just use it as a learning experience. I just refined my intro and everything after that and soon It was getting better. you must remain self confident at all times and say what needs to be said that is acceptable to them. dont come off as being thristy and obnoxious.

example: you see a woman at a store.....dont walk up saying "yo baby whats your name "

do say " excuse me. My name is _______ and I saw you and I wanted to meet you. whats your name ?"

You dont have to say word for word but something along those lines. this works because you are complimenting without complimenting because they will read between the lines. It also works because you are being polite and courteous and confident. trust me if you approach them and they are mature they will be nice to you because they know its hard to put yourself out there. just be cool in your approach. you get more flies wityh honey.


meaning dont say " I saw you and I wanted to tell you that you are so pretty" dont do that because you seem thirsty.

If you get shot down then so be it. then ask open ended questions and steer the convo accordingly, get the digits and get out. the convo shouldnt last no more than 2 minutes.

 

[goodlove]

All i can say is take a chance and ask someone out.
Oh and pay no attention to the people with smartass replies, you asked a legitimate question.

no doubt about it was. the problem is that some guys think you should come out the womb knowing how to date women. that is sooo false. some folks have the gift to gab and some just have to learn. even with the ones who have the give to gab doesnt mean they know how to maintain a long lasting relationship.

 

[TreePixie]

and that is my problem hell of a talking game then......i usually just lose interest.......trying to work on that though.

If the problem is you lose interest, maybe you're not looking for the right things? Maybe you're judging based on a different set of criteria than you'd use if you were looking for something longer term?

 

[goodlove]

nope i just lose interest. once the chase is over i lose interest. i really need to stop that. I have a plan though.

its mature that you see that in urself.

its funny people think that people cant learn game. its funny. you can learn game its just are they willing to learn and learn from the rite folks and then put it into motion.

the other problem is that fools quit because they get shot down. hell do basketball players quit the NBA because they have an off nite. naw they go back and practice and then try again. then that is hwo you get better