How do I get a white woman?

FG said:
Ever heard of the dude that won the lottery but never bought a lottery ticket?
Nah, didn't think so. Savvy??
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Getting a beautiful white women is the same as winning a lottery.
This implicates that there is a possibility to hook-up with pretty blondes even if you look like me in here http://www.hetrozeolifantje.nl/index.php/tag/lassie-toverrijst/
The only thing you have to do is calculating your chances by following a lot of math classes.
Is this what you are trying to suggest?
 
Not gonna lie, I get intimidated by certain women...I don't know what it is, is it their response or the fear of rejection, though honestly I've never been brutally rejected. Maybe sometimes in the back of my mind I don't think they are my type or would be 'into' me (though I've been told I'm very attractive)...unless I get a small look with a smile or some indication of interest it's like I smell blood and I will go for the kill.

I do try to cold approach and I'm very friendly. Actually have had some success with cold approaching, but there are certain women I'm into that if I do actually care and I think they are more my 'type' I become less natural.

One of my types so to speak I have trouble with...preppy/professional white women. Something sexy as fuck about them to me.
 
QMark said:
It's not so much the rejection itself that bothers me. It's the ridicule and gossip that follows after. I don't want the reputation or image of being a hopeless romantic.
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You remind me of me. I'm twenty-six and I've never been in an actual relationship. I can probably relate to you more than anyone else here and I've been given all of the typical advice that you mentioned (give it time, be yourself, be more aggressive, etc.). After repeated rejections I also ceased to chase women with the same enthusiasm that I had before.

I don't think anyone gave you reassurance because there is none! People die alone every day. Relationships are not guaranteed. It's a reality - possibly my reality. The incredible marketability of female attention says it all. Women get paid money just to talk to guys. Male attention will never be as marketable because most men are already eager to interact with the opposite sex. My solution is to not think about them so much. Although it's a poor solution, it helps me to cope with my involuntary celibacy, a condition that you can read more about by googling.
 
DJ_1985 said:
You remind me of me. I'm twenty-six and I've never been in an actual relationship. I can probably relate to you more than anyone else here and I've been given all of the typical advice that you mentioned (give it time, be yourself, be more aggressive, etc.). After repeated rejections I also ceased to chase women with the same enthusiasm that I had before.

I don't think anyone gave you reassurance because there is none! People die alone every day. Relationships are not guaranteed. It's a reality - possibly my reality. The incredible marketability of female attention says it all. Women get paid money just to talk to guys. Male attention will never be as marketable because most men are already eager to interact with the opposite sex. My solution is to not think about them so much. Although it's a poor solution, it helps me to cope with my involuntary celibacy, a condition that you can read more about by googling.
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A lot of women end up alone as well, I don't think this issue is a gender based one. There's a very thin slice of the female population which fits your marketable criteria. Women who are not "traditionally attractive" or who are older, or overweight, or disabled are disappeared in our society, too.

As a younger woman I fit the traditionally attractive mode, and certainly had no trouble attracting men, but attracting men in general isn't the same as attracting the *kind* of men you'd want to be with.
 
TreePixie said:
A lot of women end up alone as well, I don't think this issue is a gender based one.
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It is largely gender based because dating for men and dating for women are not the same. Norah Vincent went undercover as a man for eighteen months and I believe that she describes it better than anyone. "I was an actor playing a role, but these women had gotten to me nonetheless. None of these interactions mattered. I had nothing real at stake. But still I felt bad.

So how must men feel when it’s a true encounter and everything in the game seems stacked against them? They make the move, or the women bluff them – without tipping their hands – into making the move. The guys step out (stupidly, it now seems to me) into the space between, saying something irreversible and frank – a compliment or an out right indication of interest- and most of the time the women step away, or laugh disdainfully, and the guys are left with their asses in the wind. That’s the sport, and men are the suckers. Women guard the gate and men storm it. Natural selection is brutal, and women do, in the immortal words of Jim Morrison, seem wicked when you are unwanted."


There's a very thin slice of the female population which fits your marketable criteria.
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That's true, but even women who aren't marketable are often haughty and behave as though they are marketable. I've been shot down by women who aren't as fit as me. Lord Chesterfield was right in his observation that any woman who is not absolutely ugly thinks herself beautiful.

Women who are not "traditionally attractive" or who are older, or overweight, or disabled are disappeared in our society, too.
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A guy who is traditionally attractive can have considerable trouble, whereas a traditionally attractive woman almost never has trouble. Usually, if I do see a white woman with a black guy she's overweight or she's older. Since white men generally have higher physical standards than black men, black men are the next choice for the less desirable white women.

As a younger woman I fit the traditionally attractive mode, and certainly had no trouble attracting men, but attracting men in general isn't the same as attracting the *kind* of men you'd want to be with.
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This is only relevant if you believe in things like "true love", which I don't.
 
DJ_1985 said:
You remind me of me. I'm twenty-six and I've never been in an actual relationship. I can probably relate to you more than anyone else here and I've been given all of the typical advice that you mentioned (give it time, be yourself, be more aggressive, etc.). After repeated rejections I also ceased to chase women with the same enthusiasm that I had before.

I don't think anyone gave you reassurance because there is none! People die alone every day. Relationships are not guaranteed. It's a reality - possibly my reality. The incredible marketability of female attention says it all. Women get paid money just to talk to guys. Male attention will never be as marketable because most men are already eager to interact with the opposite sex. My solution is to not think about them so much. Although it's a poor solution, it helps me to cope with my involuntary celibacy, a condition that you can read more about by googling.
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I remember giving you advice...lol

WB
 
Wow some of you guys make me wanna slit my wrist talk about downers lol. Fellas its simple just focus on doing things you like and stack PAPER and stay in/get in shape. Its a simple formula and works very well. Oh most importantly stop listening to other women on the subject because as well meaning as some of them are
1. Most of them have a hard time figuring out what they want themselves so how can they coach anyone?
2. You can not ask prey how to capture other prey. What experience do they have getting women? They know what they like to see men do but they have zero clue how to do it.
 
jaisee said:
Ok, maybe no picture.... that's cool. Here are my tips on how to get dates, but never find 'the one'.

The truth is a lot of the annoying cliche things that you hear are true. For example, 'swag'. A lot of men hear women mention Lil Wayne or 50 Cents 'swag' and try to emulate that. Swag to me means first finding yourself, second being comfortable with who you are, and finally being confident in yourself. Very cliche, I know... but hear me out. You want to attract women who are appropriate for your lifestyle. So if you project an image that is not you two things will happen. 1) You'll be exposed as fake, 2) You'll find yourself in frustrating situations with women who really are not a good match for you. The key here is confidence, people will pick up on that. Keep your head high, cause you're the shit. Have the mentality that if a woman turns you down, it's her loss not yours.

TRY not to take anything personal. Not rejection, not ridicule, nothing. If you approach a woman and she is not interested, it's merely a reflection of her own personal tastes. The common mistake that we make when rejected is to feel that we're not good enough for the other person, and then we begin to feel bad about ourselves. That is your ego at work. Don't let that happen... some people have in their mind so specific a description of the partner that they desire that they're blind to good men with good intentions, this is to their own disadvantage. As soon as you let rejection start to make you feel down about yourself, you begin to lose confidence and that is very easy to pick up on.

Paniro kinda touched on this earlier, but cast a wide net. Unless you're Irba Derba, the way dating works these days it's generally going to be an application process for men and a filtering process for women. Don't wait for the right one to come to you... that will happen either way. If you see someone that you like, approach her with confidence. Keep trying and keep trying and keep trying.... just don't take the rejection personal. If it starts to get to you and get you down, take a step back until you get your confidence back and get right back to it.

How do you approach women? Are you as stiff as a board? Are you robotic and calculated? Women are kinda like human beings too. Be flirtatious, charming, witty and funny... crack jokes (be appropriate and don't over-do it). Here's another mistake greenhorns make... be able to talk and keep up in the conversation. If you've just met someone, the last thing that you want is for them to become bored with you. You know when you talk to someone new and sometimes there's that moment of silence and you begin thinking to yourself "oh shit, I better come up with something to say".... then you say some witty shit like "So, whats your favorite color?" thinking she'll believe that you're interested in her likes and dislikes? Don't do that. Pay attention to her, if you see that she is tapping her foot to a song playing in the background, comment on that "Ok, I like your taste in music... I'm going to guess you also like <whatever>". Don't ask too many questions... it seems like you're trying too hard. "What do you do for fun?" "What's your favorite food?" "What do you do for work?" drop all of those. Keep your hands out of your pockets and don't cross your arms.... use hand gestures, but don't over-do it unless she's deaf and you're doing ASL. Uhm.... when you're ready to ask her out, don't say "Would you like to go to dinner with me?"... instead say "Cirque du Soleil is in town this week, I'd love to have your company to the show.... maybe after the show we can go back to my house and I can fingerbang you a little bit."

Oh, and don't be too complimentary... it comes across as disingenuous and also desperate. She is just as lucky to date you as you are to date her.

Most important thing. Tell pretty women they're smart, tell smart women they're pretty. Don't say anything to pretty & smart women, they've already heard it all.

Oh yeah, I don't know how many female friends you have, but make more.
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goodlove said:
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having female friends are the best. I got sound advice from them and 90% of the time it worked. sometimes all you have to do is listen to what they say and watch what they do and you will pick up on some good stuff.

lastly, they are good wingmen (women) and screeners. the reason is because they can help get you in there faster than men can. think about it. You are hanging with a slew of good looking women that are nonsexual friends at a bar resteraunt and you depart from them to go at a woman. more than likely that woman will know you are with them. she is going to ask what is what is up with that. you will tell her and also take her over to the table with you to meet them and continue to shoot your shot, she will more than likely give it up. also they will be able to get you some good info about a woman that you will never know. example if you want to date a particular woman and you let her know about it, she will be able to find some info about her that you will need to have to decide if you really want to date her or not.
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goodlove said:
everything you stated is right on point. especially the highlighted part.
when you first start out trying to campaign for women ...you are going to get shot down ....alot. dont get upset, just use it as a learning experience. I just refined my intro and everything after that and soon It was getting better. you must remain self confident at all times and say what needs to be said that is acceptable to them. dont come off as being thristy and obnoxious.

example: you see a woman at a store.....dont walk up saying "yo baby whats your name "

do say " excuse me. My name is _______ and I saw you and I wanted to meet you. whats your name ?"

You dont have to say word for word but something along those lines. this works because you are complimenting without complimenting because they will read between the lines. It also works because you are being polite and courteous and confident. trust me if you approach them and they are mature they will be nice to you because they know its hard to put yourself out there. just be cool in your approach. you get more flies wityh honey.


meaning dont say " I saw you and I wanted to tell you that you are so pretty" dont do that because you seem thirsty.

If you get shot down then so be it. then ask open ended questions and steer the convo accordingly, get the digits and get out. the convo shouldnt last no more than 2 minutes.
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DJ_1985 said:
You remind me of me. I'm twenty-six and I've never been in an actual relationship. I can probably relate to you more than anyone else here and I've been given all of the typical advice that you mentioned (give it time, be yourself, be more aggressive, etc.). After repeated rejections I also ceased to chase women with the same enthusiasm that I had before.

I don't think anyone gave you reassurance because there is none! People die alone every day. Relationships are not guaranteed. It's a reality - possibly my reality. The incredible marketability of female attention says it all. Women get paid money just to talk to guys. Male attention will never be as marketable because most men are already eager to interact with the opposite sex. My solution is to not think about them so much. Although it's a poor solution, it helps me to cope with my involuntary celibacy, a condition that you can read more about by googling.
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Look , I have had some success so I cant complain toooo much about rejection. However, I could do better. the thing is fellas rejection is part of it all. you just have to read what I and the other dude stated. trust me it works. dress in some decent clothes and nice shoes (slacks, dress shoes and ect..) they dont have to be expensive. I bought some dressy T-shirts for only $6 and put em with slacks and boom there you go. get rid of the sports related clothes...its not mackish.

next smile. walk around with a good mood and they will feed off of that. its ok to have a script until you feel comfortable in your own skin.

when I was in college in the early 90's I was in my early 20's and I was living with my mom....I was talking to a girl and the first thing I told when she picked up the phone. "I was thinking of you ...." . My mom stated "damn you said that to the other girl you talked to before that one. you are a sick puppy. LOL" But she knew men were like that from jump. when you get successful with one woman...use that as a guideline for the next...you will have to tailor it for anopther but the prinicple is still the same.

also there is a saying in the military..."when you have two you have one....when you have one you have none." get multiple women (let them know you are not committed to them. they will respect you for that) and say it right.

Its not what you say...its how you say it.

The Dark Knight said:
Wow some of you guys make me wanna slit my wrist talk about downers lol. Fellas its simple just focus on doing things you like and stack PAPER and stay in/get in shape. Its a simple formula and works very well. Oh most importantly stop listening to other women on the subject because as well meaning as some of them are
1. Most of them have a hard time figuring out what they want themselves so how can they coach anyone?
2. You can not ask prey how to capture other prey. What experience do they have getting women? They know what they like to see men do but they have zero clue how to do it.
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LOL. so well stated.
 
The Dark Knight said:
Wow some of you guys make me wanna slit my wrist talk about downers lol. Fellas its simple just focus on doing things you like and stack PAPER and stay in/get in shape. Its a simple formula and works very well. Oh most importantly stop listening to other women on the subject because as well meaning as some of them are
1. Most of them have a hard time figuring out what they want themselves so how can they coach anyone?
2. You can not ask prey how to capture other prey. What experience do they have getting women? They know what they like to see men do but they have zero clue how to do it.
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Women are human beings, not prey animals. Jeebus.
 
TreePixie said:
Women are human beings, not prey animals. Jeebus.
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Trix your feminist nonsense is getting just a tad boring now. I compared the act of dating to hunting because that's what is. Men seek out women its primal. When I see women asking out men as often as men ask out women then I'll concede until then you have no point my friend.
 
The Dark Knight said:
Trix your feminist nonsense is getting just a tad boring now. I compared the act of dating to hunting because that's what is. Men seek out women its primal. When I see women asking out men as often as men ask out women then I'll concede until then you have no point my friend.
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Noting that woman are human beings isn't a "feminist" statement. It's actual fact. Jeebus.
 
The Dark Knight said:
Trix if you honestly believe that for a second it was being suggested that women aren't people you don't understand the concept of an analogy Jeebus:cool:
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It's about as unpleasant to see yourself referred to as prey as it would be for you to see yourself referred to as an animal because you're black. It's a pretty jarring, unlikable thing which makes you wonder "Does the speaker really see women as prey animals?"
 
The Dark Knight said:
Wow some of you guys make me wanna slit my wrist talk about downers lol.
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It surely doesn't happen overnight. It's a lifestyle, just like being a ladies man is a lifestyle.

1. Most of them have a hard time figuring out what they want themselves so how can they coach anyone?
2. You can not ask prey how to capture other prey. What experience do they have getting women? They know what they like to see men do but they have zero clue how to do it.
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I totally agree with this view and stress it as often as possible. A woman could never give her son any sound advice on dating because she would only give him superficial advice. She's not going to tell him what his father did to get her all hot and bothered. What she's going to tell him is logical things: be a gentleman, don't slouch, pick her up on time, etc. Logic in itself is not enough because logic is not what gets us aroused.
 
You're on time out my friend. We need a break from eachother. You are too easily offended you too often take things so far out of context I question your mental health. I even explained why I used prey as a hunting example and brought to prejudice. And sexism. I don't dislike you Trix but a break is needed kid.

TreePixie said:
It's about as unpleasant to see yourself referred to as prey as it would be for you to see yourself referred to as an animal because you're black. It's a pretty jarring, unlikable thing which makes you wonder "Does the speaker really see women as prey animals?"
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