Is There Ever A Reason To Hit A Woman?

Bliss said:
The Islamic video highlighted....speechless. No more than ten beatings, huh. Beating etiquette 101 - don't break her bones. She will feel honored you beat her...Wow..I bet you there are even non islamic men who watch it and agree with it.
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Yep that video was pretty much :shock: out there.

I wouldn't call those who agree with that men but rather abusers. A breed that needs little reason to commit abuse.

I'm always amazed when I hear of women who stay with such men for a long time thinking they will change their ways.
 
GQ Brotha said:
I see what your position on as far as a man using the notion of hey she hit me so I will fuck her up 10x worse for numerous reasons within our relationship is.

My starting point is that we all keep our hands to ourselves and no man nor woman should take the liberty of laying their hands on another merely because of one's sex. One expecting that no man should ever hit a woman, the other that I am physically stronger and will use violence to assert my control over her. Neither of which is welcomed in my logic of thinking on this matter.

There are situations in which we will see women put their hands on a man and then he becomes the bad guy for reacting to it and not just accepting whatever she wants to do to him.
When if he was to initiate violence he would be the biggest p.o.s. on Earth and rightfully so.

I guess I have a hard time since I am someone who believes in equality to accept duplicity on such matters.

We should all have the common courtesy and respect to keep our hands to ourselves.

Being a woman should give no woman the right to put her hands on a man because of birthright with the expectation that he won't respond to it, just as being born a man doesn't give me the right to assume a woman is often physically weaker and I can abuse her to do my will.

Men who are abusers often will do it regardless of what the woman does, she doesn't have to touch him for him to have a reason. She could not cook the proper meal, not do the laundry, he just had a bad day, he got drunk, etc. Many women who are in such relationships try to do everything to avoid the abuse and it still will occur at the whims of the abuser because that is who that individual man is as a person.

Abuse is a means of control obviously and is totally a non starter with me. Would get no arguments from me about such men.
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I know of a situation just like this. Married couple (at the time), they were arguing, and he got tired of it. He told her he didn't want to talk to her at that moment. He needed time to cool off. She wouldn't accept that and left the room, came back with a jug of water and poured it on his head. He told her if she didn't leave his sight she'd regret it. She left, came back and poured another jug of water on his head. He went after her. I don't think he actually hit her, but he went after her. She called the cops and he was jailed for the night and ordered to anger management classes. She wasn't disciplined in any way.

She was wrong. If she got handled roughly she deserved it, imo.
 
chesbaygrl7 said:
I know of a situation just like this. Married couple (at the time), they were arguing, and he got tired of it. He told her he didn't want to talk to her at that moment. He needed time to cool off. She wouldn't accept that and left the room, came back with a jug of water and poured it on his head. He told her if she didn't leave his sight she'd regret it. She left, came back and poured another jug of water on his head. He went after her. I don't think he actually hit her, but he went after her. She called the cops and he was jailed for the night and ordered to anger management classes. She wasn't disciplined in any way.

She was wrong. If she got handled roughly she deserved it, imo.
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Wow, mind boggling. Too bad he didn't fill up his own jug and pour it on her head.
 
chesbaygrl7 said:
I know of a situation just like this. Married couple (at the time), they were arguing, and he got tired of it. He told her he didn't want to talk to her at that moment. He needed time to cool off. She wouldn't accept that and left the room, came back with a jug of water and poured it on his head. He told her if she didn't leave his sight she'd regret it. She left, came back and poured another jug of water on his head. He went after her. I don't think he actually hit her, but he went after her. She called the cops and he was jailed for the night and ordered to anger management classes. She wasn't disciplined in any way.

She was wrong. If she got handled roughly she deserved it, imo.
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He went to jail? So he must have injured her. Cops are not allowed to arrest him unless the see evidence of injury. Her word is not enough.

You sure he didn't K/O her like this cop did.....over water?

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GQ Brotha said:
Wow, mind boggling. Too bad he didn't fill up his own jug and pour it on her head.
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Precisely. That sounds reasonable. But it sounds like he went overboard and ended up in the Clink.
 
I LOVE how the other cops stand guard as he cuffs her, another cop even helps. They should have been slapping the cuffs on his ass!
 
Bliss said:
Yes it was extremely liberal. And that's when it can become dangerous. If your last line is What YOU MEANT, then that is what needed to be said. Because men and women co-signing need to know that a man's punches are not the same as a woman's. Using the bus driver example, his punch knocked her off her feet. But he had to because she was endangering others lives by repeatedly slapping/hitting hm while he was driving. That was justified. But in a normal scenerio, no you don't uppercut a woman slapping you. I don't give a shit how a changed world/2013 we are, our strengths have not changed.
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If the strengths haven't changed then the females going around startin shit should keep that in mind.
 
Tarshi said:
If the strengths haven't changed then the females going around startin shit should keep that in mind.
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Women have been starting shit since they got their period. Men's responses have changed.

Again, I've never been of the ILK that it's OK to start shit thinking you won't be hit (see below).
My ISSUE is men and women who think its ok to go gangbusters anytime, just because she 'touched him'. To heck with that.

Bliss said:
Iin your video clips, what you show is assault. Pure and simple. Regardless of the sexes involved. Your video of the man knocking the girl out is ALSO indicative that no matter how tough a bitch thinks she is, a man's fist will most always trump hers. Women need to RESPECT this and have it drummed into them too.

However IMO, there is NOT enough justification for a majority collective agreement to occur that 'yes, it's ok'.......
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Bliss said:
Women have been starting shit since they got their period. Men's responses have changed.

Again, I've never been of the ILK that it's OK to start shit thinking you won't be hit (see below).
My ISSUE is men and women who think its ok to go gangbusters anytime, just because she 'touched him'. To heck with that.
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I love a same page, makes me all gooey and shit :D
 
I do believe that some people will push the limits of what another person can handle if they don't fear physical repercussions. It's unfortunate, and for every bat shit crazy guy who kicks the heck out of a woman for not washing a glass to crystal perfection and it triggered something, there is an equally crazy woman who will slap and punch you up side your head just because you came back from work 2 minutes late and it triggered something. I think with gender equality and more women serving in possible combat roles maybe in 25 to 50 to 100 years people will start advocating the ending of violence against people as oppose to just violence against women. Then again maybe not.
 
GQ Brotha said:
I see what your position on as far as a man using the notion of hey she hit me so I will fuck her up 10x worse for numerous reasons within our relationship is.

My starting point is that we all keep our hands to ourselves and no man nor woman should take the liberty of laying their hands on another merely because of one's sex. One expecting that no man should ever hit a woman, the other that I am physically stronger and will use violence to assert my control over her. Neither of which is welcomed in my logic of thinking on this matter.

There are situations in which we will see women put their hands on a man and then he becomes the bad guy for reacting to it and not just accepting whatever she wants to do to him.

When if he was to initiate violence he would be the biggest p.o.s. on Earth and rightfully so.

I guess I have a hard time since I am someone who believes in equality to accept duplicity on such matters.

We should all have the common courtesy and respect to keep our hands to ourselves.

Being a woman should give no woman the right to put her hands on a man because of birthright with the expectation that he won't respond to it, just as being born a man doesn't give me the right to assume a woman is often physically weaker and I can abuse her to do my will.

Men who are abusers often will do it regardless of what the woman does, she doesn't have to touch him for him to have a reason. She could not cook the proper meal, not do the laundry, he just had a bad day, he got drunk, etc. Many women who are in such relationships try to do everything to avoid the abuse and it still will occur at the whims of the abuser because that is who that individual man is as a person.

Abuse is a means of control obviously and is totally a non starter with me. Would get no arguments from me about such men.
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Again well said. If you're my equal don't expect me to great you like a child. Most men thoroughly understand if you cross the line with other men you better be prepared to knuckle up. Crossing the line includes physically starting a conflict or in some rare situations verbal like if calling someone certain names. There are a lot of women with the notion that they are untouchable and cross a line they would never cross with other women. Its not about abuse because abusers don't need a reason they're just gonna do it whether they fell justified or not.
 
Bliss said:
He went to jail? So he must have injured her. Cops are not allowed to arrest him unless the see evidence of injury. Her word is not enough.

You sure he didn't K/O her like this cop did.....over water?

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Precisely. That sounds reasonable. But it sounds like he went overboard and ended up in the Clink.
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That's fucking bs Bliss. All they need is a better all from a neighbor and woman who looks visibly scared and your ass is going to lock up. Ag least that's the case in good ol Ny stats. Remember cops aren't only about keeping the peace they make money for the state.
 
The Dark King said:
That's fucking bs Bliss. All they need is a better all from a neighbor and woman who looks visibly scared and your ass is going to lock up. Ag least that's the case in good ol Ny stats. Remember cops aren't only about keeping the peace they make money for the state.
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Bullshit @ visibly scared. NY had almost half a MILLION reported cases of actual physical domestic abuse alone last year! You don't have ENOUGH JAILS for women merely scared of their men.

If a woman is scared, she must go to her City Hall's EPO Division office which is manned 24hrs, and file for an emergency of protection order. Then she can take the EPO to the cops and they can remove him, BUT NOT ARREST HIM.

But know too, on an actual D/V call, Police can NOT arrest a man or even make him leave his house UNLESS they have probable cause (ie: must be dependent on factual evidence and not on suspicion alone). .. and trust me with him soaked and her perfect, no way was he getting arrested - I'm betting Ches didn't provide the full story or even knows all of it, or it happened yonks ago before the new domestic violence laws. So clearly he must have put his hands on her, left marks and THAT's why his ass was taken to jail.
 
Bliss said:
Bullshit @ visibly scared. NY had almost half a MILLION reported cases of actual physical domestic abuse alone last year! You don't have ENOUGH JAILS for women merely scared of their men.

If a woman is scared, she must go to her City Hall's EPO Division office which is manned 24hrs, file for an emergency of protection order. Then she can take the EPO to the cops and they can remove him, BUT NOT ARREST HIM.

But know too, on an actual D/V call, Police can NOT arrest a man or even make him leave his house UNLESS they have probable cause (ie: must be dependent on factual evidence and not on suspicion alone). .. and trust me with him soaked and her perfect, no way was he getting arrested - I'm betting Ches didn't provide the full story or even knows all of it, or it happened yonks ago before the new domestic violence laws. So clearly he must have put his hands on her, left marks and THAT's why his ass was taken to jail.
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This was years ago on a military installation.
 
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