Trayvon Martin's Murder

Mikey,
It is asinine to continue to assign that much blame solely to Rachel Jeantel .....she exited the scene early enough for testimony to be forgotten. ...
She was the best person to rely on to talk on behalf of Trayvon. She didn't do a good enough job. And I don't think John Guy did a very good job in the courtroom either. Same thing with Bao for the prosection. He couldn't answer a "yes" or "no" question when the Judge kept asking him the same question over and over again.

The state of Florida is known for making these kinds of verdicts (ie - Terri Schiavo, Casey Anthony, etc.) Maybe it may not be race-based, could just be the way Florida's court systems operate.

Prosecutor John Guy gestures during his opening arguments on June 24. His first words to the six-woman jury may have raised a few eyebrows. "Good morning. 'F*****g punks, these a******s all get away,'" Guy quoted Zimmerman. "These were the words in this grown man's mouth as he followed this boy that he didn't know. Those were his words, not mine."

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What is he doing in front of all of those people, putting on a show, celebrating?
 
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I think that attributing that much impact to Jeantel just makes her a bete noire for this case. People who think that lies about things like her age means she is lying about something as critical as the murder of her close friend strain credulity. That would be like me qualifying my 11-year old as a liar because he doesn't tell me the truth about how many cookies he ate. I am not excusing her for lying, but I would not allow that to taint every subsequent word she uttered.
 
The standard is REASONABLE DOUBT, not 'beyond a shadow of a doubt', meaning is it reasonable to assume a scared teenager being followed on his way home by a stranger in a car is the one really responsible for the minor fight that ensued and his own murder???

I hope every Black man of age in Florida applies for a concealed carry permit and always leaves the crib strapped.

Just to even the odds.

These yokels couldn't even find it in their narrow minds to find Zimmerman guilty of manslaughter.

This verdict implies EVERY ONE of Zimmerman's actions that night were fair and justified.

Got it.

If anyone has a doubt about the institutional and cultural racism that still is rampant throughout American society, no Black man in a million years would be found innocent of the same charges if it was an unarmed White teen who was murdered by a self appointed neighborhood watch captain named Leroy.

Not really that surprised by the verdict.

If you actually SEE how nervous some White people get merely in the presence of an adult Black male, which has happened to me personally since the age of 14, it's not a stretch to convince of jury of 6 women-fuck that 'mother' shit-that Trayvon's ghost might rise up from the grave and knock Zimmerman out.

Is this fucker going to write a book now???:smt107
Arming black folk will not the problem solve. The first Aferican American to use SyG in their own defense will go to prison.

nd that's fact.

The hypocrisy is stunning. But there it is.
 
he was found not to be guilty but that doesn't mean he's innocent

his attorney did a better job than the prosecution team

all I know is Mark O'mara is going to cash in BIG
 
Arming black folk will not the problem solve. The first Aferican American to use SyG in their own defense will go to prison.

nd that's fact.

The hypocrisy is stunning. But there it is.

Current TV has an interesting show on Stand Your Ground and individuals who have been acquitted using it as a defense.
 
Arming black folk will not the problem solve. The first Aferican American to use SyG in their own defense will go to prison.

nd that's fact.

The hypocrisy is stunning. But there it is.

This. I have my own thoughts on the jury's verdict but...I'm just tired and a little sad right now. *sigh*
 
I think that attributing that much impact to Jeantel just makes her a bete noire for this case. People who think that lies about things like her age means she is lying about something as critical as the murder of her close friend strain credulity. That would be like me qualifying my 11-year old as a liar because he doesn't tell me the truth about how many cookies he ate. I am not excusing her for lying, but I would not allow that to taint every subsequent word she uttered.

The concern for such things is how the jury will take it. People who mention her lies don't care about her lie but how it may affect the jury. It was already a questionable case but the lies did not help.
 
justice failed by taking the day off
justice has taken the day off folks

and 5 out of the 6 jurors are mothers, interesting
 
Arming black folk will not the problem solve. The first Aferican American to use SyG in their own defense will go to prison.

nd that's fact.


The hypocrisy is stunning. But there it is.

Already been used as a defense in trials, and they've won. Some have also used it to explain it to the police, and were never charged.
In Nevada after Trayvon was killed, a Black man used it (his victim was a White Hispanic) and he was not charged. The law is very adamant about it... as we once again saw tonight.
 
Arming black folk will not the problem solve. The first Aferican American to use SyG in their own defense will go to prison.

nd that's fact.

The hypocrisy is stunning. But there it is.

True, but this is what I know about guns; when a man pulls out a nine and suddenly his target draws his own piece, the street 'hero' has second thoughts.


It's one thing to kill an unarmed civilian, but few cowboys want to go down in a mutual blaze of glory on principle.

I still don't think Zimmerman drew on Trayvon from a prone position. IMO they separated, and Zim drew on him but didn't fire immediately.

If Tray had a piece and had it in his hand and asked Zimmerman, 'why is your creepy ass FOLLOWING ME?', knowing the pussy that he is, we all know Zimmerman would've turned around and got back in his car.

If Zimmerman even suspected Trayvon had a gun, I don't think he would've gotten out of his ride.


I'm venting, but the way things went down in Florida and some people thinking you can murder with impunity an unarmed BM not even committing a crime, sometimes being armed is the better alternative.

Hell, if there were a huge influx of BM applying for concealed carry permits, maybe we'd get some reasonable gun control laws in this country.lol
 
Already been used as a defense in trials, and they've won. Some have also used it to explain it to the police, and were never charged.
In Nevada after Trayvon was killed, a Black man used it (his victim was a White Hispanic) and he was not charged. The law is very adamant about it... as we once again saw tonight.

In Florida though?

A new bar has been set by this though.

And the fact that black men who are criminals or under the eye of the law get harsher treatment.

As much as this wasn't fair to Trayvon or his family..the same applied rules will be unfair to a black >male< who uses this defense toward a dead white male.

Plain and simple is America is shit to the black population a d always has been.
(Shit as in: treats in a fucked up way)
 
True, but this is what I know about guns; when a man pulls out a nine and suddenly his target draws his own piece, the street 'hero' has second thoughts.


It's one thing to kill an unarmed civilian, but few cowboys want to go down in a mutual blaze of glory on principle.

I still don't think Zimmerman drew on Trayvon from a prone position. IMO they separated, and Zim drew on him but didn't fire immediately.

If Tray had a piece and had it in his hand and asked Zimmerman, 'why is your creepy ass FOLLOWING ME?', knowing the pussy that he is, we all know Zimmerman would've turned around and got back in his car.

If Zimmerman even suspected Trayvon had a gun, I don't think he would've gotten out of his ride.


I'm venting, but the way things went down in Florida and some people thinking you can murder with impunity an unarmed BM not even committing a crime, sometimes being armed is the better alternative.

Hell, if there were a huge influx of BM applying for concealed carry permits, maybe we'd get some reasonable gun control laws in this country.lol

The modern gun rights movement was arguably started by fear of the armed Black Panthers in California. Article HERE:
 
Already been used as a defense in trials, and they've won. Some have also used it to explain it to the police, and were never charged.
In Nevada after Trayvon was killed, a Black man used it (his victim was a White Hispanic) and he was not charged. The law is very adamant about it... as we once again saw tonight.

I would soo rep this
 
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The state of Florida is known for making these kinds of verdicts (ie - Terri Schiavo, Casey Anthony, etc.) Maybe it may not be race-based, could just be the way Florida's court systems operate.


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What is he doing in front of all of those people, putting on a show, celebrating?

His mistake I feel was in his rebuttal was to tell the jurors to basically vote 'with their hearts'. Then right after he closed, the judge instructed them, don't (dare) vote with emotion. :smt120
 
It turned out this wasn't Zimmerman's first run-in with the law. He had previously been accused of domestic violence by a former girlfriend, and he had also previously been arrested for assaulting a police officer. More controversially, in July 2012, an evidence dump related to the investigation of Martin's death revealed that a younger female cousin of Zimmerman's had accused him of nearly two decades of sexual molestation and assault. In addition, she had accused members of Zimmerman's family, including his Peruvian-born mother, of being proudly racist against African Americans, and recalled a number of examples of perceived bigotry.

A woman with close ties to George Zimmerman and his family told investigators that members of Zimmerman’s family were boastfully proud racists and that for more than a decade Zimmerman sexually molested her.

“It started when I was six,” the woman told investigators during an interview on the morning of March 20. “We’d all lay in front of the TV and we had pillows and blankets and he would reach under the blankets and try to do things and I would try to push him off but he was bigger and stronger and older,” the woman said, audibly weeping in the Florida State Attorney's Office interview recording released Monday. “It was in front of everybody and I don’t know how I didn’t say anything, I just didn’t know any better.”

The woman, identified in various reports and in taped interviews with investigators as witness 9, said that from the age of six to 19 Zimmerman repeatedly fondled her, at times penetrating her vagina with his finger.

A number of news sources have reported that the woman is a relative of the Zimmerman family, though her exact relationship to Zimmerman was redacted from the interview recording. Zimmerman's legal team, in a statement released later Monday night, identified the woman as a cousin.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/16/george-zimmerman_n_1676729.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/13/george-zimmerman-not-guilty_n_3588743.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/09/george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin_n_1335984.html
 
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