BM/WW IR sightings on TV

orejon4 said:
I'm not a big fan of IR situations on television featuring a black "gangsta" and a white woman of "dubious virtue". Subtle messaging?
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orejon4 said:
You know what I mean, lol. When the black male is a criminal and the white woman with him is "fallen", i.e. a prostitute, drug addict, gold digger, etc. The implication is that those in IR relationships are morally defective. He's a criminal and she must be bad news, otherwise why else would she be with a black man?
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orejon4 said:
I would like to see IR romance portrayed as just as virtuous, just, loving, intelligent, and thoughtful as any other relationship rather than buck-run-amok and lewd bad white girl. I'm not saying those negative stereotypes don't exist, but Hollywood seems to think that's the vast majority (if not all) of IR relationships.
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I'd rep you if I could, but I gotta spread it around. :smt058
 
Tamstrong said:
I'd rep you if I could, but I gotta spread it around. :smt058
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-True colors (early 90s)
-Happy endings (gone)
Theres one on now . Cant think of the name. Its a drama. Dont get into soap opera type shows.
-Community
-my name is earl
-sex and the city had an IR for a second

What is really said is they want more positive bmww relationships
 
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goodlove said:
What is really sad is they want more positive bmww relationships
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Ra said:
So .......you're trying to clown on dudes because they want more positive WWBM relationships on TV & movies than what has and is currently presented to us now? :smt017
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No they are saying there are no positive IR. Im saying what you are really saying you want more.
I listed a few that was positive...you can debate em but generally positive.
 
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goodlove said:
No they are saying there are no positive IR. Im saying what you are really saying you want more.
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No, they are saying that BM/WW relationships don't get shown in or on the same positive level as other IR relationships, especially WM/BW relationships.

The media and society still act as if BM/WW relationships are taboo or that one or both people in BM/WW relationships are flawed in some way to engage in the relationship. That's what they are expressing frustration about.
 
Ra said:
No, they are saying that BM/WW relationships don't get shown in or on the same positive level as other IR relationships, especially WM/BW relationships.

The media and society still act as if BM/WW relationships are taboo or that one or both people in BM/WW relationships are flawed in some way to engage in the relationship. That's what they are expressing frustration about.
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I can dig that.

people will look at any IR with cross eyes.
Example scandel....people are bashing kerry washington as being the bed wench (IR)

I wouldnt doubt people dogged jada pinkett for hawthornes IR.

The show parenthood IR was foul ....
But yet IR can and should be put in a more positive light.

Also just more of it to be reflective of the population.

Now look at mordern family ...... very positive.
It would be cool to have a set up like that.

Look at the list of positive bmww shows that were on
 
goodlove said:
-True colors (early 90s)
-Happy endings (gone)
Theres one on now . Cant think of the name. Its a drama. Dont get into soap opera type shows.
-Community
-my name is earl
-sex and the city had an IR for a second

What is really said is they want more positive bmww relationships
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Thanks! I forgot about this one, with the guy with the wild hair and Jamie Pressly(sp?).


goodlove said:
I can dig that.

people will look at any IR with cross eyes.
Example scandel....people are bashing kerry washington as being the bed wench (IR)

I wouldnt doubt people dogged jada pinkett for hawthornes IR.

The show parenthood IR was foul ....
But yet IR can and should be put in a more positive light.

Also just more of it to be reflective of the population.

Now look at mordern family ...... very positive.
It would be cool to have a set up like that.

Look at the list of positive bmww shows that were on
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I wasn't so much talking about the public ragging about it as much as the depiction of or plot surrounding the characters doing it, i.e. black criminal overlord with white girl fascinated by crime/drugs/danger, etc. He's always menacing and diesel and she's always blonde, loud and drenched in jewels (or in the trailer park - talk about extremes).
 
goodlove said:
Look at the list of positive bmww shows that were on
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Dude, the issue isn't whether or not that there have be positive BM/WW shows, it's that they don't get regarded in the same manner as other IR relationship shows or movies. There is ALWAYS some negative feedback or social commentary when it comes to BM/WW relationships more so than other relationships.

Perfect example is the BM/WW Cheerios. Compare the reaction to that commercial to the WM/BW Swiffer Swipper commercial where the white husband had one arm. Have you heard any (if at all) negative feedback and commentary about that particular commercial? Hear anyone make comments to the effect that the white dude is only with the black woman because he only has one arm and obviously couldn't get a white woman that wanted him?
 
goodlove said:
I can dig that.

people will look at any IR with cross eyes.
Example scandel....people are bashing kerry washington as being the bed wench (IR)

I wouldnt doubt people dogged jada pinkett for hawthornes IR.
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Those cross eyes and hurt feelings didn't stop Scandal from being the top television show in the US. They didn't stop Hawthorne from several seasons depicting a black female lead in relationships with white men. They also don't stop black women from getting cast opposite white men in romantic relations in just about every other movie and TV show these days without the relationships being portrayed as stereotypical or aberrant.

On the other hand, angry reaction to BM/WW IR has either caused producers to end on screen relationships in shows or prevent BM characters from hooking up with WW characters in more instances than you can count.


Look at the list of positive bmww shows that were on
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You only managed to come up with a list of five shows that depicted positive BM/WW IRRs, one of which you couldn't even name, that spanned a period of 25 years, and you don't understand what the people in this thread are complaining about? What's worse is that you're still trying to insinuate that BW/WM IR on television is viewed the same way as BM and WW are.
 
orejon4 said:
Thanks! I forgot about this one, with the guy with the wild hair and Jamie Pressly(sp?).




I wasn't so much talking about the public ragging about it as much as the depiction of or plot surrounding the characters doing it, i.e. black criminal overlord with white girl fascinated by crime/drugs/danger, etc. He's always menacing and diesel and she's always blonde, loud and drenched in jewels (or in the trailer park - talk about extremes).
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I can dig that. Surely need more. That list is small as all get out. When u look at it.
 
goodlove said:
-True colors (early 90s)
-Happy endings (gone)
Theres one on now . Cant think of the name. Its a drama. Dont get into soap opera type shows.
-Community
-my name is earl
-sex and the city had an IR for a second

What is really said is they want more positive bmww relationships
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Happy Endings was good finally had bm/ww married couple that was positively depicted. :smt069
 
Ra said:
Dude, the issue isn't whether or not that there have be positive BM/WW shows, it's that they don't get regarded in the same manner as other IR relationship shows or movies. There is ALWAYS some negative feedback or social commentary when it comes to BM/WW relationships more so than other relationships.

Perfect example is the BM/WW Cheerios. Compare the reaction to that commercial to the WM/BW Swiffer Swipper commercial where the white husband had one arm. Have you heard any (if at all) negative feedback and commentary about that particular commercial? Hear anyone make comments to the effect that the white dude is only with the black woman because he only has one arm and obviously couldn't get a white woman that wanted him?
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Uuhh i made the thread about the cheeroos commercial before anyone here talked on it

http://www.whitewomenblackmen.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23976&page=4&highlight=cheerios
 
Ra said:
Dude, the issue isn't whether or not that there have be positive BM/WW shows, it's that they don't get regarded in the same manner as other IR relationship shows or movies. There is ALWAYS some negative feedback or social commentary when it comes to BM/WW relationships more so than other relationships.

Perfect example is the BM/WW Cheerios. Compare the reaction to that commercial to the WM/BW Swiffer Swipper commercial where the white husband had one arm. Have you heard any (if at all) negative feedback and commentary about that particular commercial? Hear anyone make comments to the effect that the white dude is only with the black woman because he only has one arm and obviously couldn't get a white woman that wanted him?
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I already raised the issue of the reaction to the Cheerios commercial in comparison to the success of a show like Scandal with him in the Derek Luke.

His response was to post some article about a white dude getting beat up by black dudes because he was dating a black woman as "proof" that WM/BW couples have it just as hard as we do.
 
Frederick said:
I already raised the issue of the reaction to the Cheerios commercial in comparison to the success of a show like Scandal with him in the Derek Luke.

His response was to post some article about a white dude getting beat up by black dudes because he was dating a black woman as "proof" that WM/BW couples have it just as hard as we do.
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U dumb
 
Frederick said:
Who cares if you made a thread? You're refusing to address the reaction to commercial in the context of a discussion where you're attempting to claim that there is equivalency in the struggles that BM/WW IRRs face with BW/WM IRRs.
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Took the wind out of your sails. Lol
 
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