Do you believe in the Afterlife?

[Arwen]

Human beings simply have the need for mysticism and spirituality. That's pretty much a no-brainer. I'm more about rational explanations and everything can be explained.

Lol no, it can't.

MS why is it so hard to believe that some people can sense things that others do not see? you are usually so open minded..Why is this one so hard to believe?

I guess I just look at the world differently. I think just because something may not make complete sense to my mind does not make it false necessarily. I don't think it is beyond the realm of possibilities for some people to simply know things for some unknown reason..

Mel, I agree with you. I often sense things and I've got help from other worlds before and there is no doubt for me. The more I do my new meditations the more I get connected with nature and people who share my vibrations. The other day I knew my friend's dad was being sick before she told me, the same way as my mum dreamed about my grandpa being free and say goodnye to her and woke up in bed the exact moment my grandpa died in his bed at the hospital. I used to focus on hugging my ex from a distance and he would text to tell me he felt a hug and ask if it was me. These things aren't bullshit. <3
Men are really scared about this stuff, way more then women, that's it.

 

[satyr]

Mel, I agree with you. I often sense things and I've got help from other worlds before and there is no doubt for me.

I'm sure it was either Uranus or your anus.

Men are generally logical about this stuff, way more than women, that's it.

Fixed.

 

[justmel]

Lol no, it can't.






Mel, I agree with you. I often sense things and I've got help from other worlds before and there is no doubt for me. The more I do my new meditations the more I get connected with nature and people who share my vibrations. The other day I knew my friend's dad was being sick before she told me, the same way as my mum dreamed about my grandpa being free and say goodnye to her and woke up in bed the exact moment my grandpa died in his bed at the hospital. I used to focus on hugging my ex from a distance and he would text to tell me he felt a hug and ask if it was me. These things aren't bullshit. <3
Men are really scared about this stuff, way more then women, that's it.

I completely agree thank you for putting into words what I was simply feeling.

 

[Morning Star]

Sounds like you've ventured into the Twilight Zone.

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Lol no, it can't.

 

[Bookworm616]

Sounds like you've ventured into the Twilight Zone.

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You are extremely close-minded.

I'm done in this thread. You think your way is the only way and refuse to treat others' experiences with respect. Since those experiences are the opposite of what you believe, they, therefore must be wrong, right? Heaven forbid you have it wrong. That just doesn't happen. :roll:

MS, if you want to believe that science has all of the answers right now (it doesn't, btw) and if you want to believe that there is nothing after death, then that is your right. But belittling those of us who have experienced differently only shows how closed-off you are to other peoples' life experiences.

And being so closed-off only further lessens your ability to see through others' eyes and experience what they've experienced. If you did that, you just may learn something about the world.

I won't engage in this topic with you any longer. Have a nice day. :smt023

 

[Morning Star]

I never said that science has all the answers as we stand now. But given the record much of the fields of science managed to debunk a lot of fundamental superstitious ideas, can you blame me for being more forthright in my practicality?

And you're really no more different from me when it comes to belitting others. I'd expect this behavior from a seven year old with Asperger's. But not from an adult.

I have learned enough that people are still embroiled in superstition and when challenged, they act like children the minute we cross examining their thoughts on the matter. The new age jargon people exercise just solidifies a placebo.

Besides, why did you bother responding anyway? It wasn't directed at you at all.

You are extremely close-minded.

I'm done in this thread. You think your way is the only way and refuse to treat others' experiences with respect. Since those experiences are the opposite of what you believe, they, therefore must be wrong, right? Heaven forbid you have it wrong. That just doesn't happen. :roll:

MS, if you want to believe that science has all of the answers right now (it doesn't, btw) and if you want to believe that there is nothing after death, then that is your right. But belittling those of us who have experienced differently only shows how closed-off you are to other peoples' life experiences.

And being so closed-off only further lessens your ability to see through others' eyes and experience what they've experienced. If you did that, you just may learn something about the world.

I won't engage in this topic with you any longer. Have a nice day. :smt023

 

[The Dark King]

I never said that science has all the answers as we stand now. But given the record much of the fields of science managed to debunk a lot of fundamental superstitious ideas, can you blame me for being more forthright in my practicality?

And you're really no more different from me when it comes to belitting others. I'd expect this behavior from a seven year old with Asperger's. But not from an adult.

I have learned enough that people are still embroiled in superstition and when challenged, they act like children the minute we cross examining their thoughts on the matter. The new age jargon people exercise just solidifies a placebo.

Besides, why did you bother responding anyway? It wasn't directed at you at all.

Dude you dont cross examine you try to indoctrinate. You asked a question and pepple answered it. I dont get why youre so invested in proving them wrong.

 

[justmel]

I used to think it was easy to simply be adults and agree to disagree. I feel completely okay with not everyone believing the same thing about the afterlife, God, spiritual gifts, and the ability to interact with others on another level. I don't get why this thread got so heated.

 

[Addolorata]

I used to think it was easy to simply be adults and agree to disagree. I feel completely okay with not everyone believing the same thing about the afterlife, God, spiritual gifts, and the ability to interact with others on another level. I don't get why this thread got so heated.

Its the internet, and religious arguments are always heated. Youtube is a perfect example.

 

[Morning Star]

I don't indoctrinate. Grow up, kid.

There's a clear distinction between rationalizing what people consider "spiritual experiences" and forcing something down their throats. That part I cannot do, but I'm not one to hold my tongue.

And why in the monkey fuck are you even responding when you said you won't be going back and forth with me on this thread? Don't you really follow your own damned advice?

Dude you dont cross examine you try to indoctrinate. You asked a question and pepple answered it. I dont get why youre so invested in proving them wrong.

 

[Liquid Swords]

I never said that science has all the answers as we stand now. But given the record much of the fields of science managed to debunk a lot of fundamental superstitious ideas, can you blame me for being more forthright in my practicality?

And you're really no more different from me when it comes to belitting others. I'd expect this behavior from a seven year old with Asperger's. But not from an adult.

I have learned enough that people are still embroiled in superstition and when challenged, they act like children the minute we cross examining their thoughts on the matter. The new age jargon people exercise just solidifies a placebo.

Besides, why did you bother responding anyway? It wasn't directed at you at all.

Please don't say things like that. My five-year old son has Asperger's and I can assure you he does not belittle anybody. He's possibly the most open minded, intelligent person I know. Little remarks like this come across as incredibly ableist.

Anyway, I can kind of see Books point. I absolutely do not believe in religion, afterlife or superstition (in fact I really, really HATE religion) but I respect others right to believe in whatever the fuck they want.

 

[andreboba]

It's odd to me when the most theoretical of quantum physicists discuss the probability of ALTERNATE UNIVERSES(!:smt017) stacked one on top of the other, and how worm holes could be used to traverse these distances, are given more credence by empiricist thinkers over spiritualists/mysticism, when conceptually what they're talking about is essentially THE SAME THING.

Whenever I hear talk by scientists about the possibility of alternate universes, this Bible passage pops into my head. John14:2,
In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

I've been taught since I was a teen that the knowledge set of known science and human understanding is but a fraction of what WE DON'T KNOW.
I would just advise the scientific absolutists to keep an open mind because we don't know what we don't know.

Brit sci fi writer had three laws of prophesy, or predictions for the future.
They are;

1. When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.

2. The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.

3. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

So what is considered mysticism today may very well be proven to be scientific fact tomorrow. Science hasn't necessarily disproved spirituality or consciousness after death.

The problem may be they lack the theorems or technology to test the spiritualist hypotheses.

Just saying, it's more rational IMO for an analytical thinker to keep an open mind and not hold fast to any intellectual ideology.

It's great to doubt or be skeptical, but for someone to have an absolute belief that spirituality is bunk because it can't be proven by science is a flawed way to view the issue.

 

[The Dark King]

It's odd to me when the most theoretical of quantum physicists discuss the probability of ALTERNATE UNIVERSES(!:smt017) stacked one on top of the other, and how worm holes could be used to traverse these distances, are given more credence by empiricist thinkers over spiritualists/mysticism, when conceptually what they're talking about is essentially THE SAME THING.

Whenever I hear talk by scientists about the possibility of alternate universes, this Bible passage pops into my head. John14:2,
In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

I've been taught since I was a teen that the knowledge set of known science and human understanding is but a fraction of what WE DON'T KNOW.
I would just advise the scientific absolutists to keep an open mind because we don't know what we don't know.

Brit sci fi writer had three laws of prophesy, or predictions for the future.
They are;

1. When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.

2. The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.

3. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

So what is considered mysticism today may very well be proven to be scientific fact tomorrow. Science hasn't necessarily disproved spirituality or consciousness after death.

The problem may be they lack the theorems or technology to test the spiritualist hypotheses.

Just saying, it's more rational IMO for an analytical thinker to keep an open mind and not hold fast to any intellectual ideology.

It's great to doubt or be skeptical, but for someone to have an absolute belief that spirituality is bunk because it can't be proven by science is a flawed way to view the issue.

Amen sir. Ive been saying the same thing. Well put

 

[GQ Brotha]

LOL, this thread is deeper than a muthaphucka.

Feel like I'm on the quest to find out the meaning of life.

 

[satyr]

It's odd to me when the most theoretical of quantum physicists discuss the probability of ALTERNATE UNIVERSES(!:smt017) stacked one on top of the other, and how worm holes could be used to traverse these distances, are given more credence by empiricist thinkers over spiritualists/mysticism, when conceptually what they're talking about is essentially THE SAME THING.

Not really because the invariable assumption is that there is always a natural, as opposed to supernatural, basis for what the theoretical physicist is referring to. A very important distinction that you missed.

 

[satyr]

Please don't say things like that. My five-year old son has Asperger's

Google Michael Burry. He attended my university and has Asperger's.

 

[Arwen]

I'm sure it was either Uranus or your anus.

Aw, you think that "from other worlds" means other planets, that is so idiotic-ly cute. :smt067 Oh, and why are you talking about my anus btw, are you having weird fantasies? :lol:

Sounds like you've ventured into the Twilight Zone.

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I'm not a twilight kid, thanks, and whoever puts on the same plate medium abilities with Twilight doesn't know what he's talking about and should shut the fuck up.



Aaaaaaaanyways, most men are too afraid to lose control and accept that there is something that can't be explained. That would make them FREAK OUT. You guys are the perfect example. :smt039

It's odd to me when the most theoretical of quantum physicists discuss the probability of ALTERNATE UNIVERSES(!:smt017) stacked one on top of the other, and how worm holes could be used to traverse these distances, are given more credence by empiricist thinkers over spiritualists/mysticism, when conceptually what they're talking about is essentially THE SAME THING.

Whenever I hear talk by scientists about the possibility of alternate universes, this Bible passage pops into my head. John14:2,
In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

I've been taught since I was a teen that the knowledge set of known science and human understanding is but a fraction of what WE DON'T KNOW.
I would just advise the scientific absolutists to keep an open mind because we don't know what we don't know.

Brit sci fi writer had three laws of prophesy, or predictions for the future.
They are;

1. When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.

2. The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.

3. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

So what is considered mysticism today may very well be proven to be scientific fact tomorrow. Science hasn't necessarily disproved spirituality or consciousness after death.

The problem may be they lack the theorems or technology to test the spiritualist hypotheses.

Just saying, it's more rational IMO for an analytical thinker to keep an open mind and not hold fast to any intellectual ideology.

It's great to doubt or be skeptical, but for someone to have an absolute belief that spirituality is bunk because it can't be proven by science is a flawed way to view the issue.

I can't rep you because I have to spread, but great post :smt023

Amen sir. Ive been saying the same thing. Well put

Really? What has that woman done to you???? I'm impressed.

 

[Arwen]

The new age jargon people exercise just solidifies a placebo.

I'm not sure what that means in english, y'all can speak difficult sometimes, but still, I have something for you

 

[Arwen]

Besides all the arguing and all the jokes, people, I feel that there is a lot of confusion between the concepts of "religious" and "spiritual". Please do not connect the 2 things because that's just superficial. I am spiritual but I don't belong to any religion, and some people preach Jesus or whatever they preach but have totally no spirituality.

 

[GQ Brotha]

Besides all the arguing and all the jokes, people, I feel that there is a lot of confusion between the concepts of "religious" and "spiritual". Please do not connect the 2 things because that's just superficial. I am spiritual but I don't belong to any religion, and some people preach Jesus or whatever they preach but have totally no spirituality.

Interesting point indeed.