^This.
Movies with BM/WW Couples
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^This.
The level of obtuseness emanating from this post almost knocked me out of my fucking chair.
They can't make a cereal commercial featuring a BM/WW couple without people coming out of the woodwork with pitchforks and hurling invective to the point where they had to edit the WW out of the second commercial altogether, but that the same reaction wouldn't be generated by some segments of the general television/movie audience? And Hollywood producers/agents/actors don't factor in the possibility of experiencing that reaction when making casting decisions?
Olivia Wilde got death threats when her character started an on screen relationship with Omar Epps on House. You don't think that's going to effect what roles she decides to take in the future or how agents who took note of what happened will advise clients in similar situations?
And are you seriously comparing the standards for porn actors to mainstream Hollywood types? Just because it would be bad PR to come out and talk about the racial dynamics that influence casting decisions in Hollywood doesn't mean that they don't exist. Or do you honestly think that it's just a wild coincidence that black women get paired with white wen in every other show while BM/WW pairings happen much, much less. (Just like in porn.)
Honestly man. I really don't think that you actually believe what you're writing. Otherwise, you'd be too naive to function as an adult black male in American society.
I Remember a situation on the ER TV Show where the black actor had requested not having an on-screen relationship with a white female costar so he wouldn't offend his black female fans
Eriq LaSalle and Alex Kingston. He had a press conference in which he announced that he no longer wanted to continue the onscreen or relationship with Kingston's character. He wanted to have a black on black relationship to appease black female fans of ER. Kingston wanted to continue the onscreen relationship. She thought it was good.
For the context of this thread, it should be noted that Alex Kingston is English.
I also think that it should be obvious to everybody here (except for Jamal and Goodlove) that brother La Salle was pressured into embarrassing himself and stunting his career like that because of the shit that he was receiving from black American women for portraying a character who was in love with a white woman on a television show.
ColiBreh1
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Examples of British movies & TV shows with prominent BM/WW IR 'ships? Preferably (but not required) with names that might be reconzineable to an American audience.
EastEnders. M-I5(or Spooks in the British title). Wire In The Blood(a bm/ww is murdered while making love). These are not prominent, but incidental. The Long Good Friday had a nude scene with Paul Barber(Horse from The Full Monty) and a white woman. Festival Of Love(I think) had Adrian Lester in a marriage with a white woman. Absolute Beginners had an ir romancce in it. The Inspector Kinsley Mysteries had an episode of a rugby player who happened to be married to a white woman and dies mysteriously. Those are the only ones I recall. Not prominent, but incidental. It's better than nothing.
Interracial couples are so ubiquitous on British television that it doesn't really stand out. I don't know which actors are recognizable to American audience.
Some TV shows
Luther (Idris Elba & Sienna Guillory), Fortitude (Nicholas Pinnock & Verónica Echegui/Jessica Raine), Misifts (Danny Sapani & Alex Reid) ( Nathan Stewart-Jarrett & Hannah Britland), Downton Abbey ( Gary Carr & Lily James).
Some films
Dom Hemingway (Nathan Stewart-Jarrett & Emilia Clarke) Scenes Of A Sexual Nature (Adrian Lester & Catherine Tate), A Hundred Streets (Idris Elba and Gemma Arterton), All By My Side (Andre3000 & Hayley Atwell)
ColiBreh1
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Both of those pairings definitely got my attention.
JamalSpunky
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You seem angry? Are you alright?
What a stupid question. Congratulations. Of course anyone can say "no" to about anything. Most folks aren't slaves. But my words that you highlighted were addressing : 1)that actors and actresses typically don't have exclusive final say in who is else is going to be cast in a film alongside them. If you don't grasp that you don't understand the industry. Second of all the point I was making that there isn't evidence that nationality of the white actress determines whether she is more comfortable with being paired with a black dude. You guys act as if racism doesn't exist outside the shores of the USA. That's almost cute.
Then by all means please provide the documentation. The ball's in your hands, governor. Let us see all of this evidence.
Damn. JLo isn't even white which should take her out of the conversation in the first place. But there appears to be a collective gripe fest going on with some black dudes on this board regarding JLO. You guys act as if she personally rejected you when she left Diddy and you obviously haven't felt it in your heart to forgive her and move on with your lives. Look, JLo can never escape "Money Train" if you know what I mean. If the original argument was that white actresses will avoid black male love interests at all costs (and I'll throw JLo in as a token white in this case) then why would Lopez do the very opposite with her onscreen love affair with Wesley Snipes? Don't give me that nonsense about she was just making a name for herself because the argument here has been that these actresses will avoid black guys at any level of their rise in Hollywood.
And by the way could it possibly be that one reason why JLo hasn't been cast alongside a black actor since then is because once she became a household name she was being pursued for mainstream roles that happened to have white males as the stars or co-stars (which would describe 95% of Hollywood films). It's math, gentlemen. It is one thing if she was black and didn't have any black love interests going forward. But she was a non-black Latina. Why do some of you give a fuck?
I agree. There is no arguing this point because there is no argument. Yo folks who take the stance that white American actresses are more likely to decline such onscreen pairings have yet to provide an numbers or evidence. Instead all I get is the ranting, paranoid, accusatory beliefs that many of you cling on to for dear life. And some of you still haven't grasp the lager point that I made which is that the vast majority of white American actresses would not be put in such situations in the first place because Hollywood execs don't typically think of pairing black men and white women on the screen in the first place.
JamalSpunky
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Welcome to my world when I read your thoughts.
You almost answered your own questions. The reaction by SOME in society does not by default represent some guideline what white American actresses must consider when making decisions. Okay? If this backlash by some bigots was still so influential then why are we still getting new commercials that have black male/white female couples? Hello? Anybody home? 20 years ago, ten years ago, such negative reactions may have put to a stop anyone that was trying to do something similar. But that's not the case anymore. You see IR increasingly on commercials and TV shows and movies. For a long time such backlash occurred if the industry ever introduced gay characters into shows and films. Now you can't turn the channel without seeing gay characters. Why is this? Society changes and the more times you present an image of something the more widely it gets accepted. Even more important though is when Hollywood execs themselves stop paying attention to the whining of bigots and try to be progressive.
And for all the prejudice/bigotry that still exists in Hollywood the town still prides itself on being (acting/pretending to be) liberal. That includes most actors and actresses. Saying no to a part because your love interest would be of a different race is not considered liberal and one could be branded by his/hers peers if one did that. I'm gonna guess that even a bigoted white actress is likely to suck it up and go along with the idea of playing Jamie Foxx's love interest rather than possibly let it be discovered that she rejected the role because of Foxx's race.
I have already posted that it is likely that some of this "dodging" by white American actresses have happened in the past, possibly even now. My contention though is that there is no proof that this is the mindset of the average white American Hollywood actress. If you don't see white American actresses (or any white actresses) with a lot of black dudes on screen it is less because of them and more about studios, execs and directors. Daytime shows have always been more reluctant to pair a black male and a white female, but that has very little to do with white female actresses. I know of situations in which the writers thought of pairing such individuals and in every time it was stopped in its tracks just before the relationship could get too far or ended not too long after the relationship was started, it was because of the cowardice or prejudice of network executives and studio heads. The white actresses, who were American, weren't the ones who were against it. The problem came down to the people above them making the decisions.
And maybe I'm going to go too far in this next point but despite the hatred out there that still exists to an extent for the sight of a black man and a white woman together, we are living in time in which some of the most dominant reality stars (if not THE most dominant) are white chicks openly dating/fucking/marrying black dudes. And despite the haters their "careers" haven't been hurt in the least. If anything their celebrity keeps rising. Granted it is a different medium than than fictional TV and film but it still shows nonetheless that white women aren't about to be dragged through the streets if caught with a black man, let alone play a character that was involved with a black man.
And yet she still PURSUED the role as Denzel Washington's love interest in "Flight" and came very close to getting the job. I guess she wasn't as traumatized as you believe. Damn. Make me work a little harder in these debates.
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JamalSpunky
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THIS!!! THIS!!!! OMG you got one! Look at that!!
And yet I posted more examples of white American actresses, some with clout, who were up for having black love interests only to be stopped by the black guys themselves or some studio head. Which suggests at the very least, despite your contentions, that there isn't some one lone attitude shared by all white American actresses. Just because Kristin Stewart look highly suspicious of bailing on Focus doesn't mean that such a reaction would be the norm among white American actresses. Period.
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JamalSpunky
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Naw. There was no campaign from black women at large pressuring LaSalle. Hell, twitter wasn't even around yet. His was a political stance based upon how he feel black relationships were treated on TV. Those were his OWN words. I disagreed with the dude but unlike you I'm not about to resort to ignorance by coming to my own conclusion on why he did what he did as if I could read his thoughts. That's for self-righteous, angry-black-man caricatures like yourself. You know the type? The ones who jump into arguments with no facts to bolster their points, who rely on what they feel in their guts to take the place of data and evidence? Because that's all you got.
Thanks for wasting my time. I'll let you get back to your pity party about those dodging, racist, white American actresses that plague your thoughts.
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ColiBreh1
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ColiBreh1
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Did you read the story in the OP?
Addolorata
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I guess it was only a matter of time 
JUANMACKER
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The Last Witch Hunter 2015 with Rose Leslie from Game of Thrones and Vin Diesel.
The Last Witch Hunter 2015 with Rose Leslie from Game of Thrones and Vin Diesel.
Soulthinker
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G,I saw a British mystery series where a brother was a heir to the fortune of a person who was murdered.
What was the title of the show?